there are at least many versions of this movie -- in the USA they cut out a LOT (rape scenes and such) , in UK they cut out some gun/breast images and it was released before on tape in different stages of edits ..Originally Posted by Chriscjgs
BUT the whole 250 minute version as the full version is on Laser disk NTSC in Japan and you can buy it here also ..
I look forward to the re-release you mention - wonder which it is going t be?
still not the directors cut though , see info below:
Italian original version of the film is 236 minutes long. The US distributor cut over an hour and a half for the 139 minutes American version; after much critical protest, the film was shown on network TV in a 192 minutes cut and finally was made available in an almost complete 227 version on video (which reportedly still omits segments from the scene where Robert De Niro rapes Elizabeth McGovern).
According to an interview given by Sergio Leone's son in november 1998, Regency and Warner are planning to reconstruct and re-release Sergio Leone's original 250-minutes director's cut and have requested the missing footage from him. Among the missing sequences that may be restored to the film are:
Noodles as a kid comes back home after the failed attempt to steal the drunk's clock and finds that his father has eaten all his dinner;
Noodles and Max rob a black trumpet player and steal his wallet and trumpet;
Old Noodles (De Niro) notices a black car following him after he leaves Riversdale Cemetetery, and he takes notes of the license plate. The same black car is later seen blowing up in front of senator Bailey's house
Noodles gets drunk after his failed attempt to rape Deborah; he picks up a hooker but falls asleep in the bed instead of having sex with her;
An old Jimmy O'Donnel (Treat Williams) meets senator Bailey and convinces him that suicide is his only way out.
British versions have been censored to remove the scene where a gun is pressed into a breast.
The Japanese Laserdisc contains 2 extended scenes cut from all U.S. theatrical & video prints:
Opening murder contains extra shots of Darlanne Fleugel suffering and being shot a second time before dying.
DeNiro's rape of Elizabeth Mcgovern is much longer and more graphic.
The so called director's cut does not exist in a finished state. Nino Baragli never edited the extra scenes and the cast didn't sound loop their dialogue to those extra scenes.
The 2 cuts made by the BBFC in the UK (a gun being pressed to a woman's breast and De Niro tearing off Elizabeth McGovern's underwear in the rape scene) were reinstated in the (but now deleted again, but going to be addded in again in next press) widescreen version.
There is a picture/still from 'Once Upon a Time in America' which is often in books/chapters on the film. The picture is of Noodles (De Niro) and Eve in bed together, and Noodles is getting out of bed holding a gun as he's clearly heard someone coming in. This scene is definatley not in the 227 min version.
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yes - several versions. Plus other versions on DVD
remember there are MANY versions of this film (about 15)
It is also on both 35mm and 70mm film -
only once for one week was the full correct version shown on 70mm (in Seattle, WA Landmark Egyptian Theater in 1999) which also had the correct sound track in 6ch DD.
The "voiceover" throughout the movie that most of you recall when you saw this movie was added under pressure from the studio .. Riddly Scott was really pissed about this. It was directed by r. scott right after "Alien" btw. The Directors cut of the DVD removes the voiceover and restores most of the movie to the original sound track (and its also wide screen) - but the directors cut is still not the whole movie because the studio removed portions of it once again and being to graphic or whatever (nude scenes and such) . So you can basicly buy 5 different versions on DVD , 4 completly different versions on US Laser disk , plus a really good version on japan laser disk (in english - no subs) plus 2 other versions on japan laser disk ..
Reports are that a TRUE DVD will be released soon ..
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some interisting facts:
The building used in the final chase scene between Decker and Roy, the Bradbury, was the same building used in the 1964 episode of the original Outer Limits titled 'The Demon With a Glass Hand' staring Robert Culp.
The ending that features Deckard and Rachael driving in the countryside contains unused footage from Stanley Kubrick's Shining, The (1980).
The mold used for the rooftop of the Police Headquarters building was originally a mold used in the Special Edition of Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977). It is the saucer-like ceiling Richard Dreyfuss stands under after he enters the Mothership.
The computer screen in Gaff's police spinner shows the same computer sequence (with the word "Purge") that the Nostromo displays in the film Alien (1979) (also directed by Ridley Scott).
The dialogue in all releases of Blade Runner alludes to another replicant who dies before Deckard's final battles with Pris and Batty. The conflicting dialogue occurs in the first conversation between Deckard and Bryant. Bryant initially tells Deckard there are four "skin jobs" on the loose, but minutes later says six escaped, and one was killed by the "electronic gate", which should leave five. The explanation is that the script originally contained an additional replicant named "Mary", but time and budgetary constraints resulted in her being written out. M. Emmet Walsh who plays Bryant, reports that new dialogue was recorded to change the number of replicants in this scene, but Scott inexplicably only used half of the new dialogue, resulting in the inconsistency.
The error concerning the number of replicants was dealt with in the never-made sequel to the movie (which was instead made into a novel) in which Deckard is the remaining replicant.
In July 2000, director Ridley Scott said that Deckard is, in fact, a replicant. But Harrison Ford still says he wasn't one (of course - how would he know anyway?)
Alternitive Versions(i want the full lenth 70mm print shown in Seattle please) :
The European theatrical release (also available on Criterion Laserdisc) is 117 minutes long and more explicit/violent than the original American version, with a few additions/differences from the US release.
Batty kills Tyrell by pushing his thumbs in his eyes, which bleed copiously.
Pris lifts Deckard up by his nostrils when she beats him up.
Deckard shoots Pris a third time; there are also more shots of Pris kicking and screaming when she is shot by Deckard.
Roy is shown while actually pushing the nail through his hand
Deckard and Rachael are seen riding into the sunset
In 1992 a new version, titled "Blade Runner: The Director's Cut" was given a limited run in theaters and was subsequently released on video worldwide.
This version completely deletes all Deckard voice-overs, adds a 12 second scene showing a unicorn while Deckard plays the piano, deletes all additional violence shown in the European version, has a digitally remixed soundtrack and eliminates the happy ending (the film ends with the elevator doors closing).
In the Director's Cut while Deckard waits for a seat at the noodlebar, the advertising slogan from the blimp is longer than in the original version (to fill the void from the missing voice over) and adds the phrase "This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World."
There are reports that when "Blade Runner" premiered on American cable TV, there was an additional line of dialog when Bryant gives Deckard the description, names, and addresses of Tyrell and Sebastian over the radio. In the cable TV version, Bryant adds "...and check 'em out" after he says "I want you to go down there."
All video tapes releases before January 1993 are the unrated version and contain the extra violence in the Euro-release that's not seen in the 117 minute American theatrical release.
A 113 minutes 70mm. working cut shown at the some sneak previews in the U.S. and London in 1982 has also received a limited release at the Fairfax Theater in 1990 and UCLA's Los Angeles Perspectives multimedia festival in 1991. A 35mm reduction of this version was later shown at the Nuart and Castro Theaters in 1991. These are the changes/differences from the original version:
Webster's 2012 definition of a replicant used in lieu of opening crawl
voiceovers deleted except at Batty's death
Bryant says TWO replicants were fried running through an electric field
conversation between snake-maker and Deckard is different and matches their lips
includes shot of nearly nude dancers in hockey masks outside Taffey's bar
Batty says, "I want more life, father."
Pris lifts Deckard up by his nostrils when she beats him up
different voiceover used after Batty's death
no happy ending (ends with the elevator doors closing)
The infamous workprint briefly resurfaced, by accident, for a one-week engagement (1/15 - 1/21) at the Seattle, WA Landmark Egyptian Theater in 1999. However, this print was the one-of-a-kind 70mm blow-up, directly from Warner Bros.' vault! There are some additional differences (that have not been reported) between this version and the other "regular" versions:
Sound was mixed in 6-track Dolby Stereo, and contained numerous differences in sound effects, music, and dialogue as compared to the standard 35mm 5-track mixes.
Opening shots did not include close-up and subsequent pull-aways from Holden's eye as he looks out the window, it simply cut closer and closer to the Tyrell Corp. building until the interior could be seen. All the while, air-traffic control headings can be heard being issued during the sequence (it was originally edited to suggest a view from a spinner as it flies toward the Tyrell Corp.).
After Leon fires on Holden and Holden crahes through the wall, hitting the table, the shot stays on Holden as fan blades brush his hair and his back smokes from the gunfire.
Deckard's meal at "THE WHITE DRAGON" can be seen being laid on the bar in front of him, rather than merely being heard.
No narration during the scene where Deckard awaits a seat at "THE WHITE DRAGON", but the blimp's advertisement is un-altered in the background (unlike in the "Director's Cut", where it WAS altered to cover the narration over).
When Deckard and Gaff inspect Leon's address and the attendant opens his room for them, he says, "Kowalski", indicating the current tenant. Kowalski is Leon's "last name".
Roy does not ask Chew, "Now...where would we find this J. F. Sebastian?"; the scene merely cuts to Deckard driving home.
When Deckard plays the piano in a depressed stupor: a)there is no unicorn vision, b) there is no background music, and c) we hear the one or two notes Harrison Ford actually played on the set.
Deckard's search for Abduul Hasaan lasts longer: we see more of Animoid Row and the back streets of the sector.
After Zhora attacks Deckard and flees, we see Deckard loosen his tie from his throat...as if he was nearly beheaded!
"If I Didn't Care", by the Ink Spots, was originally heard in the background when Deckard purchases a bottle of Tsing Tao.
In Deckard's apartment, there originally was no "Love Theme" as we all know and love; the initial music track merely continues on longer. Also, Rachel plays a different selection on the piano when testing herself; it actually was the sheet music we see displayed!
When Roy kills Tyrell, the footage of Tyrell dying was more in tone with the International Version (yet still somewhat tamer) and Roy then turns to Sebastian saying, "I'm sorry, Sebastian. Come. COME", as he stalks J.F.
Bryant's info to Deckard over the CB about Tyrell's and Sebastian's deaths are heard as we see Deckard driving through the tunnel. When Deckard is parked in his sedan on the street, he is merely preparing to call J.F.'s apartment before the police spinner interrogates him.
We actually see Roy break Deckard's fingers, in close up, with a prop-hand.
More shots of Deckard as he hangs on to the nieghboring building for dear life, after "jumping the gorge".
Different, farther-away shots of Roy as Deckard watches him die. Alternate narration was placed here (the only narration in this version), which consisted of this: "I watched him die all night. It was a long, slow thing and he fought it all the way. He never whimpered and he never quit. He took all the time he had as though he loved life very much. Every second of it...even the pain. Then, he was dead."
No shots of the "rolling TV monitors" in Deckard's apartment as he searches for Rachel. The shot merely continues, close up on Deckard, from the opening shot of the sequence, until he reaches down to pull the covers from over Rachel.
No end credits, merely exit music: the same cue heard as Gaff takes Deckard to see Bryant at the opening.
Warner Bros. originally was preparing a technically updated version of the 70mm workprint to release as the "Director's Cut", but Ridley Scott and Michael Arick quickly prepared a revised theatrical version without narration, the tacky happy ending, and plus one unicorn vision. This edition was so quickly rushed into shape, that Ridley Scott still feels it falls short of his true director's cut.
Rumours are circulating that there is a new DVD version coming soon, restoring some footage, presumably including the Violence from the original US version. The film is supposedly coming from a newly remastered 35mm print.
An extra sequence shown recently in England on a Channel 4 documentary shows Deckard talking to Holden in hospital. "Deckard it's tough now, these replicants aren't just a bunch of muscle minors any more, they're no goddamn different from you or me!". Holden talks about Leon and the circumstances around the VK interview in the Tyrell building. "its all over now, its a wipeout, they're almost US!". At the end of the documentary Ridley Scott finally confirms that Deckard is in fact a Replicant.
In the Swedish version, the subtitles mistakenly identify "Batty" as "Beatty" and "c-beams" as "seabeams". The Swedish version also deletes the additional violence from the original version in the DC.
In the San Diego sneak preview version of the film, exhibited only once in May 1982, there are three unique shots which are nowhere to be found in any other version, including the "Workprint". One shot is from the introduction of Roy Batty, displaying a full-body shot of him inside the VidPhon booth, another is of Deckard feebly attempting to reload his weapon after Batty has broken his fingers, and the last one is a high-angled shot of Deckard and Rachael's ride into the sunset.
At the 2002 San Diego Comic-Con, Paul Sammon revealed an alternate opening that was scripted (and possibly filmed). Instead of the film opening up to a shot of the desolate city and then a shot of the eye, the alternate opening was on a large farm. In the middle of the farm, there was a large house. Suddenly, a Spinner (floating car) comes down from the sky and lands next to the house. Deckard emerges and enters the house. No one is home. Deckard goes to the kitchen, and sees a pot of pea soup is boiling in the kitchen. Deckard sits down at the kitchen table. He sits there motionless for the rest of the day (he arrived in the afternoon, the background of the farm changes from day to night) until someone comes to the house. A man walks in. Suddenly, Deckard shoots the man in the back. He then goes over to the lifeless man's mouth and opens it up. Deckard then proceeds to remove the man's entire lower JAW from his head. Deckard turns to the removed jaw over to the region south of the chin, and sees a marking that reads, "Property of the TYRELL corporation". The man he shot was a replicant. Deckard takes the jaw, heads back to the spinner, and then takes off back to the city.
At the 2002 San Diego Comic-Con, Paul Sammon stated that were was an alternate take on the scene where Batty kills Tyrell. In both (the theatrical and director's) cuts, we see Isidore flee in horror after Batty puts both of Tyrell's eyes out. But allegedly in the shooting script there was a line where right after Batty killed Tyrell, Isidore stepped up to him and said "No, no, that was too easy. WHERE'S THE *REAL* TYRELL?", meaning that the Tyrell that Batty killed could have been a replicant, and that Sebastian could be a replicant too since he guessed that Tyrell could be one. -
Explorers
As requested by others
Electric Dreams
I'm surprised no-one pointed this one out
The Party (1968)
Funniest Peter Sellers flick, out on R1 but no plans for R2 yet -
Explorers is a good pick.
How about the movie "I Go Pogo?" A stop action film based on a couple of the comicstrips more funnier thoughts. Like "Vote early and vote offten!" and "Just Fine!"
Or the two Thunderbird movies, Thunferbirds are Go" and "Thunderbird 6" that are out in GB but not here. -
Originally Posted by BJ_M
I got the 227 minute version on Beta videotape, however shorter than advertised, is really 210 minutes viewing it. I don't know why, obviously modified and would never show this version on TV. -
Not a movie itself, but in an age where freakin' Charlies Angel's and Beretta get released on DVD, at least those in charge can release something decent, like the following series:
Kolchak:The Night Stalker
Ren & Stimpy
Lost In Space(not the movie, but the kewl TV Seasons) -
Yeah, "The Night Stalker" was fantabulistic.
It's also about time they did the remaining seasons of Twin Peaks.
And I reckon I would get sucked into buying "The Goodies" BBC series, or some "Kenny Everett" best of's.The glass is neither half-full, nor half-empty.
It is simply twice as big as it needs to be. -
The Goodies are avaialable from here:
http://www.playserver4.com/play247.asp
Regards,
Rob -
Originally Posted by Excellerator
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Originally Posted by rhegedus
No wonder I had not seen it in stores - only region 2.
It is missing a few critical classics, but that is what you get when you only select 8 episodes from nearly 80. Needs the "Clown Virus".The glass is neither half-full, nor half-empty.
It is simply twice as big as it needs to be. -
I would like to see all the Benny Hill series.
Also Tremors the first one and second one. Tremors 3 "Back to Perfection" is on DVD. Scifi channel is now running Tremors the series , but it is not as good as the movies. -
Mobsters
Billy Bathgate
The St. Valentines Day Massacre.(1956 Version)
Lucky Luciano's Last Testament
Honor Thy Father: The Joe Bonnano Story
I wish these would come out on dvd. Have captured them and put them on DVDR but it is not the same. -
"To Live and Die In L.A." - 1985: with William Petersen and Willem Dafoe
You can't fool me, I'm a moron! -
This is my small... wish list FOR R1
THE 25TH HOUR (It's not even on VHS, go figure...)
99 AND 44 % DEAD
AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
ALEXANDER THE GREAT
ALL THAT JAZZ
BLADE RUNNER (The non director's cut)
CHARLEY VARRICK
CINCINNATI KID
CLASS ACTION
CREATURES THE WORLD FORGOT
CROMWELL
THE DAY AFTER
DOCTOR DETROIT
DUCK YOU SUCKER
GUMBALL RALLY
ICEMAN
INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE
INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM
JUDGMENT AT NUREMBERG
JULIUS CAESAR 1953 Version
JULIUS CAESAR 1970 Version
MASADA (The series)
MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY (1962) with Marlon Brando
THE NAKED JUNGLE
NIGHT OF THE GENERALS
OMEGA MAN, THE
ONE MILLION YEAR BC (Racquel Welch; she looks great even on VHS)
the PRIZE
QUO VADIS
LES AVENTURES DE RABBI JACOB (One of the best Louis de Funes)
RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK
SCHINDLER'S LIST
SOYLENT GREEN
TESTAMENT
TO CATCH A THIEF
WATERLOO
WHEN WORLDS COLLIDE
THE WIND AND THE LION
I didn't forget any I hopeWhere ever you go... there you are...in dvdland -
As many others have mentioned: Indiana Jones movies
Also, Jaws 3. Wonder why that is the ONLY Jaws film NOT on DVD. Anyone have any idea why? Jaws 1,2,& 4 are all on DVD, but NOT Jaws 3. I'm guessing it has something to do with the fact that it was originally a "3D" movie. I remember needing 3D glasses to be able to see it in the theater.
Also, "GOTCHA." It was a movie like Cloak & Dagger where this kid things his game is just a game when he gets caught up in espionage and is running for his life. Great movie..at least I think so. 8) -
The TNT Bible Collection would be nice. These videos to this day continue to sell well, but they've never been released on DVD. Their production of "Joseph" won an Emmy.
I don't know why companies won't just release all their movies and shows on DVD, perhaps they're not persuaded yet that the DVD format is going to go over with the public -
Originally Posted by defense
http://www.playserver4.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R1&title=116935
Regards,
Rob -
@rhegedus, thanks for that link! Not sure why the date is listed as 3/6/2003 for release when it's actually 06/03/2003. I went to Bestbuy.com and it is also showing 06/03/2003 for release. That's great though because I checked a week ago or so and the movie was still ONLY on VHS, so this must be very new. Only a couple more months and I can have it....also, the site you linked has it for $5 less then best buy. Thanks for the link.
Still would like to see all the Indiana Jones movies as well as "Gotcha" on DVD. -
Originally Posted by defense
day/month/year
Rob -
hmm,
great topic,,
i'd like to see the following...
movies:
Zoot Suit,
Sixteen Candles
Ali G InDaHouse R1
TV:
The Six Million Dollar Man
Welcome Back Kotter
Silver Spoons
cartoon:
AstroBoy (anime)
Benny & Cecil
comedy:
Eddie Murphy's Delirious & Raw
Damon Wayans {he did a stand up show, was on cable about 1991, anyone know the name}
Zooter -
Ok... How about
The Big Brawl (Jackie Chan)
and the TV series
The A Team
Mr. T was a champ back then.
"I love it when I plan comes together"
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Movies:
MST3K- the movie
Tv series:
MST3K - would love to have them all, there are a few here and there out on dvd
Alfred Hitchcock tv series
Cartoons:
DangerMouse
Kidd Video -
Looks like Indiana Jones might be on DVD sooner than later.
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news-n.htm
Indiana Jones (DVD): 'Jonathon Miller' scored some interesting news on the discs and their latest rumoured incarnation: "I was on the phone to a local (Western Australia) office of Paramount Home Entertainment today in regard to a problem I had with my Godfather DVD Collection, when the lady on the other end of the line let slip with a reference to the Indy DVDs (ie: both are very much creator-controlled, unlike the majority of back catalogue titles. She indicated that Indy will be a world-wide release in November, and will only be available as a three-movie box set, not as individual films (ala the "Back to the Future" trilogy). There will be four discs, including a bonus features disc with "2.5 hours of material". So much for the 'yearly release' plan. -
YellowBeard! Great comedy with Marty feldman, Peter Boyle, Cheech & Chong, etc. Hard to find on VHS, let alone DVD.
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In No special order
Gotcha
The Sure Thing
High Road to China
Hitchikers Guide To The Galaxy
Drive-In
Inserts ( the film richard dreyfess cant remember making)
and of course the one and only
EVIL ROY SLADE -
I would mind seeing History of the World Part 1.
It's good to be the King!
Not sure if these have been done yet but stuff like Voltron, Star Blazers, Battle of the Planets. Just for old time sake.
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