How do I keep the "scene selection" in my DVD???

[orbital517]

I rip the DVD using DVD Decrypter, and use DVD2ONE, but how do I keep the "scene selection" on the DVD? What is the VOB file for scene selection? Thanks

[thingimijig]

its not a vob, all the information is in the .ifo

if you have dvd2one just do a full disk copy and you will have it all.

thingimijig.

[orbital517]

its not a vob, all the information is in the .ifo

if you have dvd2one just do a full disk copy and you will have it all.

thingimijig.

But if I do a full disk, won't that have to fit on 2 DVD's? Or will I be able to fit it all on one DVD with loss of video quality? Is there a way to take out all features EXCEPT the scene selection?

[vric]

its not a vob, all the information is in the .ifo

if you have dvd2one just do a full disk copy and you will have it all.

thingimijig.

But if I do a full disk, won't that have to fit on 2 DVD's? Or will I be able to fit it all on one DVD with loss of video quality? Is there a way to take out all features EXCEPT the scene selection?

you need to keep the menu.. dont ask me how to keep the menu and removing all extra, i still try to find the awnser..

Instant copy with registry hack can do it, but it corupt the IFO and is unplayable for me (powerDVD or Standalone player)

[Vejita-sama]

So just to be sure, what you want to do is backup ONLY the main movie, but keep the original menu (for scence selection). Ok you can do this and it's fairly easy:

1) Rip the entire DVD to your HD (either DVD Decrypter in file mode or Smartripper in backup mode).

2) Determine which VTS_XX_X.VOB files contain the main movie. There are a lot of ways to do this. Normally when you rip in smartripper/DVD decrypter the main movie (largest runtime) is selected by default take note of which VOB VTS series this is.

3) Erase the other other VOB files, BUT NOT the: VTS_XX_X.BUP, VTS_XX_X.IFO or VTS_XX_X.BUP files (and of course not the VIDEO_TS files). For the example below only erase the files with * next to them:

VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.VOB
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_0.VOB
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB
VTS_01_3.VOB
VTS_01_4.VOB
VTS_02_0.BUP
VTS_02_0.IFO
VTS_02_0.VOB
VTS_02_1.VOB*
VTS_02_2.VOB*
VTS_03_0.BUP
VTS_03_0.IFO
VTS_03_0.VOB
VTS_03_1.VOB*
VTS_03_2.VOB*

4) Run your favorite DVD9 to DVD5 transcoder/re-authoring program.

5) You'll get a new VIDEO_TX folder with a full menu. But because we deleted the video content of the extras when you try to select them from the menu the screen will pause for a bit/flash and then kick you back to the menu.

6) Burn as normal

[vric]

So just to be sure, what you want to do is backup ONLY the main movie, but keep the original menu (for scence selection). Ok you can do this and it's fairly easy:

1) Rip the entire DVD to your HD (either DVD Decrypter in file mode or Smartripper in backup mode).

2) Determine which VTS_XX_X.VOB files contain the main movie. There are a lot of ways to do this. Normally when you rip in smartripper/DVD decrypter the main movie (largest runtime) is selected by default take note of which VOB VTS series this is.

3) Erase the other other VOB files, BUT NOT the: VTS_XX_X.BUP, VTS_XX_X.IFO or VTS_XX_X.BUP files (and of course not the VIDEO_TS files). For the example below only erase the files with * next to them:

VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.VOB
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_0.VOB
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB
VTS_01_3.VOB
VTS_01_4.VOB
VTS_02_0.BUP
VTS_02_0.IFO
VTS_02_0.VOB
VTS_02_1.VOB*
VTS_02_2.VOB*
VTS_03_0.BUP
VTS_03_0.IFO
VTS_03_0.VOB
VTS_03_1.VOB*
VTS_03_2.VOB*

4) Run your favorite DVD9 to DVD5 transcoder/re-authoring program.

5) You'll get a new VIDEO_TX folder with a full menu. But because we deleted the video content of the extras when you try to select them from the menu the screen will pause for a bit/flash and then kick you back to the menu.

6) Burn as normal

I tryed that today ! DVD2one and DVDShrink crash when I open the VIDEO_TS.IFO..... DVD2one get a Windows Error and DVDshrink have a "unable to read VOB files..." after about 40% of the evaluation (before you choose reencode Level option)

As I sayd, with Instant copy, if I uncheck what I dont want, the DVD is unreadable by my DVD-ROM or DVD standalone player

[thingimijig]

there is a process with dvd2one but why dont you try dvdshrink and compress all the extras to still picture.

thingimijig.

btw, the programs will crash because you have the original video.ifo which has information on all the vts,s, so when you get rid of some of the extras the program will crash because its looking for them because the video.ifo still says they are there.

[orbital517]

What do you mean....compress the extras to "still picture"??? What is still picture? And will I be able to use the scene selection option?

[thingimijig]

in dvdshrink there is an option to compress extras to still which means you can still have the menu and scene selection, it will compress them down to nearly nothing.

thingimijig.

[DoubleShadowIce]

I rip the DVD using DVD Decrypter, and use DVD2ONE, but how do I keep the "scene selection" on the DVD? What is the VOB file for scene selection? Thanks

I'm trying to understand what you really want.

1. A DVD starts with your scene selection menu and you pick what you want for movie start
2. A DVD that plays the movie upon insert and you can access your scene selection menu through your remote.

[vric]

it will compress them down to nearly nothing.

Yes, but if you have a good Making of, it will compress it a 300 meg or 400meg.. quite big for an unwanted feature

beside that, it drop extra below 100meg, but still, on some DVD I get 500meg of extra even at still image.. if the movie is long, you lost a lot of quality for nothing

[Maginashun]

I didnt't find that erasing the vobs does it. Like previously mentioned it will give you errors. What i usually do is strip them in IFOEdit.
Say VTS3 has the trailer. There is usually a ID for the trailer (1) and a run out or whatever that is that is only .15 seconds or something like that (2). Strip it only keeping VOB ID 2. Depending on what VOB ID 1 was it can go from a 500 mg or 6mg file to 100 kb (VOB,IFO and BUP). Do that to all the VTS's that are not the main movie then run through DVD2ONE or equivalent. That's what I've been doing. Haven't figured out how to rewite the VIDEO_TS IFO yet to only keep the movie VTS. Make sure to use MENUEDIT after to get rid of the links to the extras.

Hope this helped

[orbital517]

I rip the DVD using DVD Decrypter, and use DVD2ONE, but how do I keep the "scene selection" on the DVD? What is the VOB file for scene selection? Thanks

I'm trying to understand what you really want.

1. A DVD starts with your scene selection menu and you pick what you want for movie start
2. A DVD that plays the movie upon insert and you can access your scene selection menu through your remote.

What I want is.....when I put in my DVD movie, the main menu comes up. From there I can access the scene selection and go to a particular scene instead of just fast forwarding. What is happening to me right now using the method that I stated above is that when I pop in the movie, it just plays the movie and has no menu. When I try to press "DVD menu" on my remote, it does nothing. I don't want any other extras.........just the "scene selection" and menu in the beginning of the movie. Is there a way to do this?

[vric]

What I want is.....when I put in my DVD movie, the main menu comes up. From there I can access the scene selection and go to a particular scene instead of just fast forwarding. What is happening to me right now using the method that I stated above is that when I pop in the movie, it just plays the movie and has no menu. When I try to press "DVD menu" on my remote, it does nothing. I don't want any other extras.........just the "scene selection" and menu in the beginning of the movie. Is there a way to do this?

IFOEdit make it, but It's kinda hard.. at least I tryed to understand it and I have no result so far.. I just go with DVDShrink after 3 hours of try with IFOEdit

[MackemX]

takes me 5-10 mins user input to strip a DVD to my liking

try using my guide (link in sig) along with Ifoedit

it's the Prepare the DVD section you want

after stripping the crap you can then use any backup tool to compress it to 4.37GB

even the freeze frame in DVDShrink wastes valuable space

[Maginashun]

Here is an example:
ERIN BROCKOVICH 7.79gb

VIDEO_TS.BUP 24 KB
VIDEO_TS.IFO 24 KB
VIDEO_TS.VOB 43,314 KB
VTS_01_0.BUP 18 KB
VTS_01_0.IFO 18 KB
VTS_01_0.VOB 20 KB
VTS_01_1.VOB 10 KB
VTS_02_0.BUP 22 KB
VTS_02_0.IFO 22 KB
VTS_02_1.VOB 695,560 KB
VTS_03_0.BUP 14 KB
VTS_03_0.IFO 14 KB
VTS_03_1.VOB 228 KB
VTS_04_0.BUP 14 KB
VTS_04_0.IFO 14 KB
VTS_04_1.VOB 7,982 KB
VTS_05_0.BUP 12 KB
VTS_05_0.IFO 12 KB
VTS_05_1.VOB 41,348 KB
VTS_06_0.BUP 92 KB
VTS_06_0.IFO 92 KB
VTS_06_0.VOB 80,978 KB
VTS_06_1.VOB 1,048,544 KB
VTS_06_2.VOB 1,048,544 KB
VTS_06_3.VOB 1,048,544 KB
VTS_06_4.VOB 1,048,544 KB
VTS_06_5.VOB 1,048,544 KB
VTS_06_6.VOB 715,648 KB
VTS_07_0.BUP 26 KB
VTS_07_0.IFO 26 KB
VTS_07_1.VOB 1,046,086 KB
VTS_08_0.BUP 14 KB
VTS_08_0.IFO 14 KB
VTS_08_1.VOB 298,204 KB

First thing I do is run VTS 2,4,5,7 and 8 through IFOEdit. One by one.
Example: Open VTS_02_0.IFO then look for the VOB ID's that have the .15 sec clip and write them down. Now click VOB EXTRAS and then deselect all audio and only check the VOB ID's with the short clips. This produces a VTS set that will be only be a mere few kb's. Do this for all the VTS sets that are extras. Doing this will produce a whole disk list that looks like this.

VIDEO_TS.BUP 24 KB
VIDEO_TS.IFO 24 KB
VIDEO_TS.VOB 6,000 KB
VTS_01_0.BUP 18 KB
VTS_01_0.IFO 18 KB
VTS_01_0.VOB 20 KB
VTS_01_1.VOB 10 KB
VTS_02_0.BUP 22 KB
VTS_02_0.IFO 22 KB
VTS_02_1.VOB 20 KB
VTS_03_0.BUP 14 KB
VTS_03_0.IFO 14 KB
VTS_03_1.VOB 228 KB
VTS_04_0.BUP 14 KB
VTS_04_0.IFO 14 KB
VTS_04_1.VOB 20 KB
VTS_05_0.BUP 12 KB
VTS_05_0.IFO 12 KB
VTS_05_1.VOB 20 KB
VTS_06_0.BUP 92 KB
VTS_06_0.IFO 92 KB
VTS_06_0.VOB 80,978 KB
VTS_06_1.VOB 1,048,544 KB
VTS_06_2.VOB 1,048,544 KB
VTS_06_3.VOB 1,048,544 KB
VTS_06_4.VOB 1,048,544 KB
VTS_06_5.VOB 1,048,544 KB
VTS_06_6.VOB 715,648 KB
VTS_07_0.BUP 26 KB
VTS_07_0.IFO 26 KB
VTS_07_1.VOB 20 KB
VTS_08_0.BUP 14 KB
VTS_08_0.IFO 14 KB
VTS_08_1.VOB 20 KB

Close enough. I'm trying to remember the file sizes. I did this this morning. This has gotten rid of all EXTRAS (VTS set) and WARNINGS (VIDEO_TS set). Now you will have no problem running through DVD2ONE and you will have full use of the MENU. You have to remove the links from the extras with MENUEDIT otherwise it might freeze when someone selects it.

The problem is thought that not all DVD's have VOB ID's for those .15 sec clips. You have to do editing in IFOEdit to remove the CELL ID's and that gets more involved.

However I did keep the trailer in the VIDEO_TS.VOB because i always keep one thing on each vob so that it'll still work. I did rewrite the pre command to start the menu as soon as you put the disc in.

Remember to open IFOEdit again and open all files then GET VTS SECTORS. I do this out of habit. I've passed this part up before and everything still worked.

Maybe your DVD is similiar to this.

[Maginashun]

MackemX

Sounds like the same method I have adapted. Cool. What I mentioned before though is when I get frustrated. What's your method when the VOB ID's only break up into cells for each of the PGC's. How do you only keep the .15 sec clips? You can't just deselect the VOB ID's as this will get rid of the whole thing. Do you know how to get around this? This slows things down alot.