what on earth is this??, DVDshrink clone?!??!?

[MackemX]

I saw this a while back and added to my favourites for one to watch

http://www.dvdsqueeze.com/

I've just been back and noticed this time it's exactly the same as DVDShrink!!!!!!!!!!!!

I remember seeing this before DVDShrink was released, so who's is the program?

this is the thread I saw that told me about DVDSqueeze
http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17116

this is the pop-up link

http://www.dvdcopydecrypter.com/

price supposedly retailing at $139.95 but Special low, LOW online pricing today! is quoted

I've seen DVDSqueeze is a rip-off but is this the same?

[MackemX]

shocking!

this DVDSqueeze is just a collection of all the free softwares such as DVDecrypter, SmartRipper, DVDShrink and some have been renamed

but they are charging $89.95 for these programs and a few guides

definitely a rip-off as mentioned before, but how can they do it?

have they asked the authors of all the programs?

[Gil T Pleasure]

Un-f*cking-believable!! Isn't there a hacker's unspoken rule not to pass someone else's work as your own?

[jarvis1781]

UMMM

CAN YOU GUYS READ???

it says "COPY AND DVD TO CD"

DVD Shrink makes the DVD fit on DVD-R not CD-R!

THEY ARE NOT THE SAME AT ALL

if you are talking about DVD COPY DECRYPTER THEY OBVIOUSLY MOTHER F*&KING STOLE THAT

[Gil T Pleasure]

Well yes, as a matter of fact, we are talking about DVD Copy Decrypter. The least they could have done is named it something decent: DVD Copy Decrypter... how lame is that?

[LanEvo7]

Isn't that illegal? There is an agreement somewhere that says you will not sell this freeware.

[Kubrick]

Isn't that illegal? There is an agreement somewhere that says you will not sell this freeware.

Actually, the agreement for DVDSHRINK reads as follows:

"Redistribution and use of this software and accompanying documentation is permitted provided that (a) the software is not modified from its original form and (b) the above copyright notice and the following disclaimer is included with the distribution."

If you look at it, the DVDCOPYDECRYPTOR didn't change a thing...except for the title of the app.

I think they felt that it was a safe enough legal gamble to shamelessly RIP the app off!

Either way, it still stinks of rotten eggs.

- Kubrick

[MackemX]

UMMM

CAN YOU GUYS READ???

it says "COPY AND DVD TO CD"

DVD Shrink makes the DVD fit on DVD-R not CD-R!

THEY ARE NOT THE SAME AT ALL

if you are talking about DVD COPY DECRYPTER THEY OBVIOUSLY MOTHER F*&KING STOLE THAT

I take it you don't get the whole point

read this link again

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17116

it seems these guys have a habit of cloning programs and renaming them

this is a collection of freeware programs (some modded) with a fancy Flash GUI

and also in the DVDSqueeze link, right under the Download now, it states UPDATE, NOW WITH DVD-DVD-R SUPPORT

this is cos they now include DVDShrink with the package of DVDDecrypter, Smartipper, FlaskMPEG etc

so I guess we 'GUYS CAN READ' more than others seem to READ

Actually, the agreement for DVDSHRINK reads as follows:

"Redistribution and use of this software and accompanying documentation is permitted provided that (a) the software is not modified from its original form and (b) the above copyright notice and the following disclaimer is included with the distribution."

If you look at it, the DVDCOPYDECRYPTOR didn't change a thing...except for the title of the app.

I think they felt that it was a safe enough legal gamble to shamelessly RIP the app off!

Either way, it still stinks of rotten eggs.

- Kubrick

I've just got this wonderful program called 'Windows XL' anyone wanna buy it?

how is it a safe enough legal gamble when it's an obvious package rip-off of DVDShrink and other programs?

seems like you two guys are the ones who would post something like, 'has anyone tried this?'

[jarvis1781]

MackemX

looks like you didnt read the bottom part of my post

"if you are talking about DVD COPY DECRYPTER THEY OBVIOUSLY MOTHER F*&KING STOLE THAT"

I acknowledged the fact that they ripped it off.

READ

[jarvis1781]

it also looks like those DVD Shrink stealers know that we are upset...they aren't responding to any emails

I dont think they will be in business too long

but it looks like they are trying to push their product by having other people advertise for them

getting a percentage of the sales is a bastardized way to push stolen products packaged under another name

They do have a good marketing scheme though...because some people might want to get a percentage of their revenue and so they will push the product on other unwilling customers.

Damn theives and the way theives think

[MackemX]

UMMM

CAN YOU GUYS READ???

it says "COPY AND DVD TO CD"

DVD Shrink makes the DVD fit on DVD-R not CD-R!

THEY ARE NOT THE SAME AT ALL

and also in the DVDSqueeze link, right under the Download now, it states
UPDATE, NOW WITH DVD-DVD-R SUPPORT

this is cos they now include DVDShrink with the package of DVDDecrypter, Smartipper, FlaskMPEG etc

so I guess we 'GUYS CAN READ' more than others seem to READ

I saw that, it's this cheeky bit accusing me & Gil T Pleasure of not being able to read that amazed me (CAPS ASWELL!), so that's why I basically said look again but obviously you ain't

next fully understand a post before putting your foot in your mouth and using CAPS (once is acceptable but twice)

[Excellerator]

Back in the computer BBS days I once wrote a program door for Searchlight BBS that I was selling called Welcome that greeted the person coming on the system. About 6 months later someone copied the idea and then started selling a Welcome v2.0. They even copied the name from me and changed the version number.

[yongkuk]

I have just been in touch with the author of DVD Shrink, and he ddn't know anything about it. Well, he is very pissed off and wonders what he can do. As his program contains a ripper I wonder what his options are. Any lawyers out there?

[DVD Master]

Taken from DVD Digest Forum:

Warning http://www.dvdcopydecrypter.com/ is stealing DVDShrink
Warning!!!
http://www.dvdcopydecrypter.com/
is stealing DVDShink and selling it online for profit!!

dvdcopydecrypter site does not even have any legitimate contact
details. Please refer to the following "whois" search result.

Sure, this company is importing "Free" software and trying to
make a fortune out of it.

Please be aware!!!!

Organization:
A Best Imports
Pablo Valdez
645 Springfield Ct.
Roselle, IL 60172
US
Phone: 775-628-5365
Email: genericdork@hotmail.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: DVDCOPYDECRYPTER.COM

Created on..............: Mon, Dec 16, 2002
Expires on..............: Tue, Dec 16, 2003
Record last updated on..: Tue, Mar 04, 2003

Administrative Contact:
A Best Imports
Pablo Valdez
645 Springfield Ct.
Roselle, IL 60172
US
Phone: 775-628-5365
Email: genericdork@hotmail.com

Technical Contact:
A Best Imports
Pablo Valdez
645 Springfield Ct.
Roselle, IL 60172
US
Phone: 775-628-5365
Email: genericdork@hotmail.com

Zone Contact:
A Best Imports
Pablo Valdez
645 Springfield Ct.
Roselle, IL 60172
US
Phone: 775-628-5365
Email: genericdork@hotmail.com

Domain servers in listed order:

AUTH1.NS.NYI.NET 64.90.175.14
AUTH2.NS.NYI.NET 64.90.175.18

Register your domain name at http://www.register.com

[arcorob]

They seem to want to make a quick buck before they get yanked..They want to have you sell their product for them....

[MackemX]

these are the files that come with DVDSqueeze 4.0 for $39, no doubt DVDShrink is now included in the $89 version along with Nero

are AHEAD aware of this Nero reselling for $20 I wonder?

[adam]

I have just been in touch with the author of DVD Shrink, and he ddn't know anything about it. Well, he is very pissed off and wonders what he can do. As his program contains a ripper I wonder what his options are. Any lawyers out there?

Reading DVDShrink's documentation, I don't see anything prohibiting commercial distribution. The only possible copyright infringment I can see would occur if this guy did not distribute DVDShrink along with the documentation containing the copyright notice and disclaimer. If this were the case then the author of DVDShrink could collect some damages, and I don't think he would need to be concerned with the fact that his software contains decrypting abilities. I doubt a little tort liability action is going to raise any eyebrows of the big dogs.

As far as laws prohibiting the sale of freeware, I don't think there are any. Perhaps you people are referring to the GNU public licence, which basically allows you to do just that; distribute software for free with, among other restrictions, a prohibition of commercial redistribution. But I don't think DVDShrink is licenced under GNU, so that doesn't really help him.

I think the basic argument behind these "steal_other_people's work" packages is that they are not selling the software per se, they are selling the guides and the work that went into collecting and packaging the software.

Lots of the othe software contained in that package have more restrictive copyrights, and I'm sure some of them are licenced under GNU. Any of these author's could collect damages as well. Best thing to do is spread the word that these packages are a rip off, and notify the authors of the software.

[MackemX]

the scam been out quite a while and a few have bpught it unaware of it's contents and it's just recently added DVDShrink to the package (07/04/03 is one mention of a purchase of the $90 package
and DVDShrink was released on the 06/04.03)

but the thing about DVDShrink is that not only have they not included the copyright notice & disclaimer, they have changed the name of the app judging by the pics


OK, there's no harm if they have packaged all the free stuff together and made some cool Flash menu's to operate all the progs but it's the fact they've modded DVDShrink, just the same as they did with EasyDIVX in the above link

I've seen a few forums posting warnings about this software now, some going back to last year but the word hasn't been spread enough and some people have actually bought it and probably still are. One guy has posted HERE that he bought the $90 package and discovered the con, emailed them for a refund and this post was the day after the release of DVDShrink, so they musta created that package on the day of release

so that's how I knew I had seen that site and those pics before but never realised it was DVDShrink rebadged cos I wasn't aware of DVDShrink at the time

[dcsos]

Actually this release is no different than the low bugdet low rent application called DVD COPY PLUS from 123 studios
WHY EVERYTHING on THE DISC MY FRIEND BOUGHT is FREEWARE
and they paid $69.00 to the redistributing thiefs for a lttle flash movie program that
fails to pride a usablelink between the freeware tool that you are reduced to using seperately due to 321's bad interface (doesn't install on any thing but WIN 98se properly!)
below: FILES ON 321's stolen software release



actually..Maybe I got the TMPG that always does MPEG-2 without time outt..nah..I'll test it and repost If The purchase price was providing that

[dcsos]

DVD X COPY makers 123 studios are also
doing exactly the samething and all you people seem to like their
DVD XCOPY application..
Well the same company is ripping others off with DVD COPY PLUS
I tested the TMPG that my pal spent $69.00 to get from 321,, well
ITS THE TIMED OUT 30 DAY VERSION

this is why I ended up with the disc..
My Friend was so upset that the program wouldn't loads on Win2k that he gave me the disc.....

[MackemX]

have DVDCOPYPLUS actually renamed or modified the apps though?

It's just another fancy guide with the free apps enclosed, so are they actually doing anything illegal?

what's puzzling me is that DVDCopyDecrypter is DVDShrink renamed

Nero is a 30 day trial and they rate DVDCopyDecrypter as $99

http://www.dvdsqueeze.com/packages.htm

[dcsos]

At least they could make the installer work on more than one version of WINDOWS, no?

But you're right there was no REPACKING of the APPS THEMSELVES

just a bad SCRIPT that couldn't intall except to THE C:/ drive

and a guide that I guess cost 69.00

[MackemX]

I've played with DVDCopyPlus and it worked just fine on XP

installed to E:\Program Files\321 Studios

probably another case of user setup problems , as happens with some

[dcsos]

Did the individual applictions load?
The app loaded, but their litle interface wouldn't launch any of the helper apps (freware pieces)..
And I've installed the following with no prob whatsoever on 2k:

Instant Copy
DVD Toolbox
Dvd Shrink runs fine
TMPG itself

Do you still use copy plus?
I use the individual app themselves and did in fact learn from the expensive tutorial

[MackemX]

I never properly used DVDCopyPlus and never will

I just learnt all I know by reading other guides, and some of them are quite confusing so that's why I created the ones in my sig to try to make it easy for people of all standards

the best way is still the manual way for me, cos there is no automated DVD stripping tool that maintain DVD structure 100% of the time

Ifoedit looks so scary but in fact is a marvellous tool when you get to know it

I use a combination of Ifoedit, IfoUpdate, DVD95Copy, InstantCopy and DVDToolbox and get perfect backups everytime

now if only I could incorporate it all into a fancy Flash menu, I'd make a fortune

[jarvis1781]

AND AGAIN YOU DO IT!!!!

I OBVIOUSLY STATED THAT AT THE BOTTOM IF YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT DVD COPY DECRYPTER THAN YOU WERE CORRECT

YOU READ NEXT TIME AND STOP PUTTING YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH

[jarvis1781]

AND JUST ONE MORE TIME TO MAKE SURE YOU READ WHAT I SAID SO YOU STOP THE COMPLAINING

"if you are talking about DVD COPY DECRYPTER THEY OBVIOUSLY MOTHER F*&KING STOLE THAT"

THAT'S ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID ABOUT THAT NOW DROP IT

UNLESS YOU WANT TO CONTINUE

[MackemX]

WTF are blabbing on about

UMMM

CAN YOU GUYS READ???

it says "COPY AND DVD TO CD"

DVD Shrink makes the DVD fit on DVD-R not CD-R!

so WTF does that mean??!??!??!?!??!?, to me it means you are implying that we could not read the fact it does DVD to CD, where in fact you missed the UPDATE now supports DVD to DVD-R bit

yet you still amaze by not admitting you obviously missed it and put your other foot in your mouth now cos even now you still come back with childish pathetic comments

DVDSqueeze is a package of the programs which includes DVDCopyDecrypter as the suppposed DVD to DVD-R support

so next keep your stupid CAPS LOCK OFF numbskull, when you make stupid sacrcastic meaningless comments cos it just shows how childish you are

[MackemX]

AND JUST ONE MORE TIME TO MAKE SURE YOU READ WHAT I SAID SO YOU STOP THE COMPLAINING

"if you are talking about DVD COPY DECRYPTER THEY OBVIOUSLY MOTHER F*&KING STOLE THAT"

THAT'S ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID ABOUT THAT NOW DROP IT

UNLESS YOU WANT TO CONTINUE

how is outta the 4 forums I've put this on, you are the only dimwit to suggest that?

What the hell did you think I was talking about, Nero ?!?!??!?!?

Jeez you are unreal

grow up and
TURN OFF YOUR CAPS LOCK