How to convert multiple SVCD's to DVD without losing quality

[Barnabas]

Programs used in this guide:

IsoBuster
TMPGenc
BeSweet
IfoEdit 0.95
VOBedit

By using this guide, we can create a DVD from multiple SVCD's to 1 DVD

1: Extract the SVCD with isoBuster using "Extract but FILTER using only M2F2 Mpeg frames"
2: Demux the extracted file into elementary .m2v and .mp2 streams with TMPGenc
3: Convert the mp2 file from 44.1 khz to 48 khz with BeSweet
4: Rename the .mp2 file extension to .mpa
5: Start Ifoedit and select "DVD Author", then select "Author New DVD"
6: Click on the dot to load the file .m2v into the video input open box
7: Click on the dot to load the file .mpa into the audio input open box
8 :Select the output stream destination to a directory called VIDEO_TS on your Hard drive
9: Click OK so IFOedit can create the required IFO and VOB files in your VIDEO_TS directory
10: Convert any other SVCD's you want to burn to the same DVD the same way
11: To combine all the VOB's you have just converted so you can burn them on 1 DVD do the following
12: Rename the VOB's you want to merge as VTS_01_001.VOB, VTS_01_002.VOB, VTS_01_003.VOB, VTS_01_004.VOB ect.
12a: Move the renamed vobs to the same directory
13 Open the first VOB in VOBedit
14: Click "Edit-Join Clips"
15: Next you will be prompted for the destination directory for the combined files. The program will start combining the files
16: Once combined, you can close VOBedit
17: Run IFOedit and select "Create IFO's"
18: Select your VIDEO_TS directory and your 1st VOB file for your new IFO files for the "Output Stream" box. Keep the destination directory the "Same as source"
19: Once done, close IFOedit and open IFOedit again.
20: Open your VIDEO_TS.IFO file and select "Get VTS Sectors" click OK until done.
21: You may now close IFOedit .

Create an empty AUDIO_TS directory. You can now burn your VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS directories as a DVD in Nero 5.5.10.20 or later or Stomp Record Now.

Since we have converted the audio to 48 khz, your new DVD will play on most stand-alone DVD players without problems.

[drak23]

Hello:
I'm interested in this method, not for transferring my existing SVCD's but because I can only capture at 480x480 and I want to store multiple clips on one DVD. A couple of questions:

Don't you have to use DVDPatcher to patch the header files so that your burning software will accept it?

Also, does this result in some kind of menu for the individual clips, or are you just getting one big joined clip?

Thanks,
Drak

[ChrissyBoy]

@drak23:
No need to patch using this method as IfoEdit doesn't care. it is the authoring software which has issues with non DVD resolutions(480x480) not burning software.

This method allows you to navigate between SVCDs using Prev & Next buttons. Each CD is a chapter point. You don't have menus with IfoEdit if you want menus you need other authoring software...

[KYUSS]

hmmm seems a lot like my guide

i made my guide with info gleaned from this forum.....

but its all pretty much redundant now anyways as DVD-labhas come along and this accepts svcds as standard!

it re-encodes the audio for u if needed.....and allows u to create ace menus.

[dvdnew]

And DVDlab version 0421 now have an option to no demux the mpg files if it is already DVD ready (standard DVD resolutions and also can be 480x480, 544x480 with audio at 48000)

[Barnabas]

I tried DVD Lab, but when playing files converted with DVD Lab on my Pioneer DV-250 DVD player, the sound was terrible with chips, so I worked out this method of converting my SVCD collection to DVD, and it seems to work very well, much better than DVD Lab did for me. DVD Lab files play OK on my Apex DVD player, but this method seems to work better on all the various DVD players I have tried so far. DVD Lab also seems to choke on some audio files and convert them only part way.
DVD Lab DOES look promising however, so if they can get the bugs worked out, it will be the program to use in the future, but my guide uses only freeware programs.

This method does not create menus, but will have chapter points for each SVCD.

Some DVD players will play audio ok even if not converted to 48 khz, but to have the greatest chance of compatibility, we need to convert the audio to 48 khz.

[del3165]

Followed the guide but i have no sound on the VTS_01_1.VOB file i have tried it again still no sound. I have checked the mpa file and they are fine any ideas


Derek

[Barnabas]

Might be your copy of BeSweet. I had no sound at all when I downloaded BeSweet until I got a newer version. The version of BeSweet that worked for me is 1.5b16.

[Barnabas]

I just updated my conversion procedure, and added a few simple things that were left out like moving the renamed files to the same directory. Also made a few other changes to make it a bit easier to understand.

[KradLrobR]

Is there any particular logic to why my standalone player can play PAL SVCDs burned to CDRs...but if I make 2 PAL SVCDs into a DVD (using this or any other method), my player does not like it? I get the left half of the screen filled and flickering from bottom to top.

[Barnabas]

No, the only thing I can think of is that perhaps your stand alone DVD player is a progressive scan model? My Apex players play them fine. What model DVD player are you using?

[KradLrobR]

It is a Progressive scan player...Pioneer DV-434.

Why would progreessive scan make a difference?

Thanks

[Barnabas]

It is a Progressive scan player...Pioneer DV-434.

Why would progreessive scan make a difference?

Thanks

It kind of doubles everything, rather than reading the lines odd and then even, it does it all at once, so twice the info. You should be able to turn progressive scan off.

[KradLrobR]

/me takes off the dunce cap!

I just realized that I do not even have progressive scan turned on because my TV can't handle it.

Back to teh drawing board!

Thanks for the advice though.

[Barnabas]

It must be your DVD player then. You can always re-encode, but you loose some quality.

[thaswiftness]

is there a way to burn svcds movies to a dvd and have it work on a dvd player that doesnt support SVCDs?

[Barnabas]

Yes,

Once converted by this method, many will play on such machines. My Sanyo does not play SVCD's but DOES play SVCD-DVD's fine.

[goodburner]

3: Convert the mp2 file from 44.1 khz to 48 khz with BeSweet


please can you be more detailed on this i cant figure it out


thanx for any help

[Barnabas]

Pick up the GUI for BeSweet, that's makes it a snap.

[quaker23]

when i convert the mp2 to 48hz the file size is smaller and does not sync up with the video

[Barnabas]

The file size should stay about the same. Be sure you have the latest version of BeSweet, and the GUI. Many DVD players will still play the non converted audio from the SVCD just fine as a DVD, but upsampling increases the odds of future compatibility.

[thaswiftness]

@drak23:
No need to patch using this method as IfoEdit doesn't care. it is the authoring software which has issues with non DVD resolutions(480x480) not burning software.

What if my player has issues with svcd's. do i need to patch the files? has anyone made a dvd from multiple svcd mpgs that played on a dvd player that did not support svcds? if so, could you point me in the right direction on achieving that.

thanks

[Barnabas]

What if my player has issues with svcd's. do i need to patch the files? has anyone made a dvd from multiple svcd mpgs that played on a dvd player that did not support svcds? if so, could you point me in the right direction on achieving that.

thanks

My Sanyo DVD player can not play VCD's or SVCD at all, but has NO trouble playing an SVCD-DVD converted with this method.

[Psycho_Dad_Rules]

Hi all,

Just a thought of mine. Since creating a SVCD-DVD using the above mentioned guide gives you a non compiant DVD (You need to re-encode the video to create a fully compliant DVD) and some NTSC and most PAL dvd players support MP2/3 audio at different bitrates, why not skip the audio re-encoding part. (Atleast if you own a PAL DVD player). This saves a lot of time and most important, prevents any changes in audio sync, which has always been a problem for me.

I am aware that this way you create an even less compliant DVD, but DVD players get less and less picky nowadays.

Greetz,

pSyChO dAd

[pirchl]

Hi,

can anyone here tell me how exactly I would go about using DVD-Lab to convert a movie on multiple SVCD's to a DVD?

Thanks for any help,

Alex

[Craig Fuqua]

Is there any particular logic to why my standalone player can play PAL SVCDs burned to CDRs...but if I make 2 PAL SVCDs into a DVD (using this or any other method), my player does not like it? I get the left half of the screen filled and flickering from bottom to top.

Pioneer players do the same thing when playing an SVCD file re-muxed with VCD headers. This method is essentially the same trick. Your Pioneer assumes the aspect ratio is already 4:3 because of what it sees in the header data, so it sends the video unconverted.

[mikeny]

I was wondering if there's any difference between using Nero Recode to import 2 different titles and burning vs. using vobedit to join them, then Nero Ultra Burning Rom. Does recode do something different?

This is what I did:

1: Started with compliant NTSC SVCD mpgs (which were converted successfully) from Pal SVCD Mpgs with this guide https://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/166237.php

Followed steps 2-10 as directed in the guide.
[2: Demux the extracted file into elementary .m2v and .mp2 streams with TMPGenc
3: Convert the mp2 file from 44.1 khz to 48 khz with BeSweet
4: Rename the .mp2 file extension to .mpa
5: Start Ifoedit and select "DVD Author", then select "Author New DVD"
6: Click on the dot to load the file .m2v into the video input open box
7: Click on the dot to load the file .mpa into the audio input open box
8 :Select the output stream destination to a directory called VIDEO_TS on your Hard drive
9: Click OK so IFOedit can create the required IFO and VOB files in your VIDEO_TS directory
10: Convert any other SVCD's you want to burn to the same DVD the same way]

Step 11: Used Recode to import the titles and burn.

Results: Loss of about 10 minutes per SVCD title for each title and gradual A/V synch errors.

[better life]

I just realize that the files are more than the space of an one side DVD. Do you think I should go forward the burning process?