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  1. I've been having problems burning vcd/svcd's on my matshita ujda720 burner at 8X and 4X (pixelation and image/sound breakup halfway through the movie), but VCDEasy or Nero won't let me go below 4X. Is there any way to force my writer to go lower to see if it solves the problem? VCDEasy has that option but even if I select it, it still burns at 4X. Any ideas?

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    Could very well be that the writer doesn't go below 4x.
    I have a Samsung CDRW/DVD SM-308B combo here at work, and even if the soft says it can burn at 4x (not lower) it makes nothing but coasters. At 8x it works like a charm! (You bet it took me a while to figure that one out!)
    Low speed burning capabilities aren't that big a sales pitch, so manufacturers aren't likely to cater for those who want to write at lower speeds...

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  3. Hi Mats - thanks for your reply. The problem is that, as far as I can tell, my VCD/SVCD troubles all come down to one thing: burning speed. At 8X and 4X all i get is a movie that plays fine halfway, then breaks up (pls see my post about my SVCDs breaking up halfway through the movie). I've tried every possible configuration/source video/program/cd quality and thats what it comes down to I think, that I need to go slower as opposed to faster. So I'm kinda stuck as you can see...

    Thanks again, let me know if you think there's anything else I can try.

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    Nothing to do with burn speed. Either the media sucks or your burner is hosed. Slowing down only HELPS those problems. If 4x is still bad, try a better disc. If it does it on all discs, of all brands (quit using cheap crap), then buy a new burner.

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  5. Tried on just about every CDR and CDRW I can get my hands on, so I don't think its the media.

    Re the burner, its a laptop DVD/CDRW combo drive which is about a year old, and I haven't had any problems writing any other CDs.

    I don't know - is the fact that all my (S)VCD's break up at almost the same point (25 minutes or so) any kind of clue as to anything else that might be going wrong?

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  6. I dont want to clutter up the forum with new threads, so here's another question: In VCDEasy the ASPI used is Nero (also installed on my comp). When I switch to Adaptec I get an error message. Could this be any kind of problem? I mean should I uninstall Nero and install Adaptec's 4.60 ASPI and give it a try?

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  7. I had the same problem on some vcds I made using Samsung 10x cdrws. About 25 minutes into it, it would start getting blocky. I changed back to 4x media and have had no problems since.

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    Try the ASPI4ALL software (free). Nero is 100x better than Adaptec crap. Easy (hah!) CD Creator crashes more than not.

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    Don't think that's the issues, but worth a shot. Why not?
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  9. Nope - no dice. Found, installed it, tried it - didn't work. Same result every time - halfway thru the cd the movie starts breaking up.
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    i had problems with my svcds breaking up after 30 minutes so i reduced the burn speed to 12x,burner was a 48x liteon,but i wanted to burn faster so i traded in for a lg 48x which was a little better but the breakup started showing up again after 30 minutes so i had to reduce the burn speed again,what im trying to say is it could be your dvd player thats getting finicky with the burn speeds.
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    I find it very hard to beleive that the burners have a problem burning at higher speeds. I have burned at max and run a scan on the results and gotten tons of errore, megabytes at a given point. Reduced the speed, reburned, rescanned, and gotten tons, megabytes of errors. Guess what? The errors were at different places on the burn. And, guess what? After the second burn, played them both and both played perfectly.
    Now, it is possible that if they were data discs I might have dropped a critical bit here and there, but with a movie disk, no problem. It must not have dropped enough data to matter.
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    Get an older model of a CD-R/RW that burns at lower speeds. I've had my one for 4 years, it's a Sony CD-RW 24/2/4 and although it takes ages to burn CDs it still works like new.
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    This can be argued for ages (and has been!) as there are three variables involved:
    • The writer
      The media
      The player
    Some (including me) have noticed that CD-R's burned at higher speeds, using my writer, played on my player, often "breaks" after a while. Burning at lower speeds reduces this problem.
    Others state that no matter what media, no matter what writing speed, their (S)VCDs play fine on their player.
    To me, writing the CD at a lower speed might result in more reliable playback.

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    I'll bet you paid a pretty penny for that antique too, didn't you? 24X should be no more than 6 or 7 minutes. 4X RW, 16 to 18, is ages. My old 2XR, 1XRW, took 35 minutes to tell me the burn failed. We should be thankful.
    You know, if they break up at the halfway point, could it be the encode? I mean, why should the writer screw up at 25 or 30 minutes? Why not the program you are using? I have no problem with my encoded videos burnt at 48 on 1 machine, or 16 on the other machine I use for video only. None of the media I buy gives me coasters. Even when I have to force Nero to overburn, it gives me a failed warning, I put them in the player, and they play.

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    It "might" play better. But the laser power is supposed to adjust to the burn speed. Disks are warm when you burn them. If the power did not adjust down, if you went from 48 to 8, hey, you just might melt the disk. 1/6 the speed, 6 times the laser intensity per blast. Reasonable?
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    It "might" play better.
    To me, writing the CD at a lower speed might result in more reliable playback.
    Let me rephrase: To me, it does play better. To you, it may.

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  16. Thanks for all the replies - ok here's MY verdict after burning about 30 coasters in about 4 days. For me, it WAS the burner. I reinstalled an old HP CdWriter 7500 and burned with VCDEasy at 2X - it worked like a charm.

    So as far as I can tell, 2X was the way to go for me, and worth the wait (better than spending tons of money on discs anyway). One small problem was that the burner wouldn't eject the disc at the end, but I changed the IDE settings from DMA to PIO and that solved the problem.
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  17. I too am having the exact same problem as joedotcom. On SVCD's I burn on CD-R it starts getting blocky and the sound is choppy. For every single one it happens in the same place every time. I've tried various speed settings. I've also tried using two different burners, and different burning programs as well.

    I'm able to burn an SVCD to a Memorex (High Speed) CD-RW at any speed and the SVCD works perfectly. However, if I use a CD-R it messes up. I know it's not the DVD Player because I have other SVCD's on CD-R that play just fine on it. I've tried Maxell and Great Quality (GQ) CD-R's.

    On the GQ CD-R's it has the blocky video and choppy sound problem. However, on the Maxell CD-R it's a different problem. It will play to a certain point and then just cut off and stop playing (and it's not the end). Also, on the Maxell, if I "Search Forward" with my DVD Player, at a certain point it will start having trouble searching furthur forward until it finally just stops.

    If anyone has any idea how to help me, that would be great.

    Do you think that if I spent money on a third (different) brand of CD-R's that it would work right? If so, what brand(s) would you recommend?
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    a third (different) brand of CD-R's that it would work right?
    Might, but as there are lots and lots of CD-R's out there. it's a shot in the dark. But if you specify your make and model of DVD player, maybe someone who owns this could direct you.
    I'm able to burn an SVCD to a Memorex (High Speed) CD-RW at any speed and the SVCD works perfectly.
    This indeed leads me to believe that it's a media compatibility problem.
    I have other SVCD's on CD-R that play just fine on it.
    This is a good clue: What's the manufacturer of those working CD-Rs?

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  19. The ones that work are on the Maxell CD-R's. I don't know how I managed to get them to work before and not now. I'm gonna try the VCD header trick and see if that changes anything.
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    If you have SVCD that plays fine, the VCD header trick will do you no good - it's for fooling players that doesn't play SVCD into doing so by making the player believe it's a VCD. This is obviously not the case with your player.

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  21. Yeah, that's what I thought. I'd run out of stuff to try so it was worth a shot. Well actually it wasn't because I just wasted another CD.

    I guess I'll just get a third brand of CD-R and see if it works.
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    The ones that work are on the Maxell CD-R's
    I'm not sure, but I don't think Maxell actually makes their own CD-Rs. Maybe the working Maxells are of another manufacture than the ones you have now?

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  23. Yeah that's possible. I'm not sure if those were from the same pack of CD's or not. Is there a brand that you (or anyone) would recommend I try?
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    As I said, it's probably very dependent on your player. My standalone eats almost anything, so I've used bulk "no name" that cdrecord reports to be of Ritek manufacture.
    Try cdrecord dev=1,0,0 -atip where 1,0,0 is the scsi device your burner is reported as with cdrecord -scanbus
    (cdrecord requires a functioning ASPI layer.)
    The manufacturer is the last line of the output.

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