I've just plugged my Sony TRV19 into my computer for the first time and can't work out how to capture the DV footage with the USB cable provided?
The software that comes with it (ImageMixer) seems less than useless. I captured using that and ended up with an MPG1 file at 320 x 240. Hardly worth having a miniDV camera!!
I'm shocked if that's all the supplied software can do, but never mind. I wasn't expecting much from the bundled software.
I then tried WinDV, but I'm guessing that can't do anything without a firewire cable (not supplied).
Is it possible to get the DV footage using the USB cable supplied, or is the bundled package just completely useless?
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Damian
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Bundled software isn't exactly completely useless, just useless for transferring DV. You must have a fire wire cable to transfer DV from your camera to your computer.
So your computer must have a fire wire card, or built in fire wire port. Remember, the cable has to match the port of your camera (possibly a four-pin) and match your system (most likely a six-pin). They are relatively cheap these days so hurry down to your local video store to pick one up, if you have the rest of the equipment listed.Hello. -
I do have everything else I need.
I'm just very surprised that they sell a DV camera without a firewire cable if that's the only way to get the bloody DV quality content out of it! What's the cocking point of USB2 if it can only get 320x240 MPG1 files out of your lovely new miniDV camera??Damian
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Even USB1 is capable of transfering DV. USB1 has a max transfer rate of 12 mb/s, whereas DV is 3.5 mb/s. Some of the older cameras used USB because it was cheaper than firewire at the time. Some cameras still use USB to transfer stills to the PC.
That it doesn't come with the firewire cable is not uncommon. Most cameras don't ship with one unless they include a card as well. It has been common practice among printer manufacturers to ship their printers without cables since the dawn of time. -
DV is actually 3.6 MBytes/s or 29 Mbits/s so USB1 isn't going to do. USB2 will (and firewire, of course).
Yeah it is a bit stiff from the hardware companies to sell you a several hundreds worth of kit and not include a cable but such is life. It's not just Sony. No one does it. I've only seen one exception - Pinnacle with the MovieBox (but I didn't like the product, so there you go). -
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Originally Posted by Daminator
buy a firewire cable, plug it into a firewire card, and that's it.... -
buy a firewire cable, plug it into a firewire card, and that's it....
Ah well, I'll survive.Damian
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Originally Posted by Daminator
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Originally Posted by MpegEncoder
*edit* What are people doing with DV then? -
What are people doing with DV? The same as they did with their 8mm, Hi-8, VHS-C, etc, they are plugging the analogue out into their TV and watching their footage. Some get really adventurous and plug the analogue into their VCR and copy to VHS tape!
That is why you get all the analogue cables supplied when you buy a camcorder but not the Firewire. The vast majority of buyers have no need for it. -
Originally Posted by Daminator
Making money on these things is all about getting you to purchase a smattering of high-margin accessories, such as Memory sticks, extra batteries, cables, etc. -
And they want $30.00 for a firewire. I think that's outrageous to pay that kind of money for a wire. Am I the only one that thinks this way. Also, when I connected my new 6.1 amp to my DVD player I had to buy an optical cable that was not supplied either and that set me back $49.00 plus tax at Best Buy. Crazy isn't it?.
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Originally Posted by rcguy
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You can find Firewire cables on internet for less than $10.
Frustrating to have to buy a cable. But you also have to buy tapes, new softwares, DVDRs... This is an expensive game. -
Originally Posted by Sugar
It took about 2 weeks to get the one from ebay and about 10 days to get the one from the reseller. I got tired of waiting so I went out and bought a $29.99 Belkin from BB. I now have three 6-pin to 4-pin cables.
The problem is that once people realize a cable doesn't come in the box, they're hosed.......being forced to buy the overpriced cable from a retailer or waiting for delivery after ordering online. Most people probably want to start transferring right away and don't want to wait for the cable to arrive via USPS so they run out and buy one. I strongly suspect the B&M folk are aware of the foregoing and take full advantage.
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