Advice on a VHS transfer

[Cherbette]

Here is gspot

[poisondeathray]

I don't need gspot, the mediainfo was actually enough to say what was wrong

Or you can use hcenc separately. The script should be fine as is (If you use AssumeFPS), something else is causing avs2dvd to encode progressive 59.94, instead of interlaced 29.97

If you want to figure out what's going on, post the log file

[Cherbette]

I did post the log file in the post right before the gspot one

[Cherbette]

video = AVISource("C:\Users\User\Desktop\chershowretrysamp le.avi").FadeOut2(35)
audio = WAVSource("C:\Users\User\Desktop\chershowretrysamp le2.wav")
AudioDub(video, audio)
Dither_convert_rgb_to_yuv(last, matrix="601",interlaced=false,tv_range=true,cplace ="MPEG2",lsb=false,output="YV12")
GradFun3(thr=0.5,mask=0)
AssumeTFF().SeparateFields().SelectEvery(4,0,3).We ave()
Santiag()
FineSharp(sstr=0.02)
addgrainc(2.0,2.0)

script used for latest test. I took assumefps out because I thought we had concluded it wasn't helping.

[poisondeathray]

I did post the log file in the post right before the gspot one

oops sorry I missed it

Looks to be a problem with ffmpeg encoding, as the script reports 29.97, but after encoding is 59.94 (twice the framerate with twice the # frames)

Info: AviSynth - 0 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.5 - 29.97 fps (CFR) - 5:50 minutes - 10513 frames
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OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 8500 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.333 - 59.94 fps (CFR) - Progressive - 5:50 minutes - 21016 frames

Also, I don't know why it's adding borders then resizing? Presumably you would have done all those manipulations already

Video = Video.AddBorders(0,30,0,30)
Video = Video.Spline16Resize(720,480)



I would use hcenc separately , or try to select hcenc as the encoder in avs2dvd instead of ffmpeg, and perhaps notify the avs2dvd author Mr.C.

Hcenc is a better MPEG2 encoder anyway than ffmpeg's MPEG2 encoder

Are you using the newest version of avs2dvd?



But you should keep that AssumeFPS in there. IF you check with

AVISource("C:\Users\User\Desktop\chershowretrysample.avi")
Info()

only is the framerate "off" as well ? Probably something happened in your earlier workflow to the frame rate

[jagabo]

You're running Santiag on interlaced video? That will essentially blur the two frames together, poorly deinterlacing it. I don't know FineSharp, but you should probably run that before interlacing too.

[Cherbette]

frame rate

[Cherbette]

So I should try:

video = AVISource("C:\Users\User\Desktop\chershowretrysamp le.avi").FadeOut2(35)
audio = WAVSource("C:\Users\User\Desktop\chershowretrysamp le2.wav")
AudioDub(video, audio)
Dither_convert_rgb_to_yuv(last, matrix="601",interlaced=false,tv_range=true,cplace ="MPEG2",lsb=false,output="YV12")
GradFun3(thr=0.5,mask=0)
Santiag()
FineSharp(sstr=0.02)
AssumeTFF().SeparateFields().SelectEvery(4,0,3).We ave()
addgrainc(2.0,2.0)
AssumeFPS("ntsc_video")

[Cherbette]

Nope still not working lol

[poisondeathray]

The problem isn't the script. (Well, there might be other quality problems that jagabo pointed out, but nothing technical that prevents it from making a NTSC DVD, once you correct it with AssumeFPS), the problem is using ffmpeg with avstodvd which makes progressive 59.94 video - illegal for DVD

Do what was suggested above - feed the script to hcenc, or select hcenc in the avstodvd options

But first you might want to address those issues jagabo raised

[Cherbette]

I tried using hcenc in avstodvd but it still did not work. resulted in progressive video. I'm trying now directly in hcenc. It runs very slow this way as compared to avstodvd

[poisondeathray]

I tried using hcenc in avstodvd but it still did not work. resulted in progressive video. I'm trying now directly in hcenc. It runs very slow this way as compared to avstodvd

Post the log file for hcenc when used in avstodvd. It shouldn't be any slower using hcenc separately then when used in avstodvd. If you meant compared to ffmpeg, yes it is slower but the quality is significantly better

There is a new avstodvd version posted recently (today), with unspecified bug fixes in the changelog. You might want to try that new version as well

[Cherbette]

When I encoded with Hcenc through avstodvd it was running around 19fps...running directly through hcenc I'm running around 2fps

[Cherbette]

<8/11/2014 5:33:03 PM>
START PROCESS
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<8/11/2014 5:33:03 PM>
PROJECT SETTINGS

DVD Video Standard: NTSC
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Size: 378/4450 MB (8%)
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder
DVD Label: DVD
DVD Menu: No Menu
Output Folder: C:\Users\User\Videos
Delete Temp Assets Files: Yes
Delete Temp Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Post Process Task: Show Progress Status window

PREFERENCES

MultiThread: 1
AVS Video Source Filter: A2DSource
AVS Audio Source Filter: A2DSource
AVS UpSize/DownSize Filter: Lanczos4Resize/Spline16Resize
Frame Adjust Strategy: 1
PAL SpeedUp: 0
NTSC SlowDown: 0
Video Resolution: 0
Video BitRate Min: 2500
Video BitRate Level 1: 8500
Video Profile Level 2: 8500
Video BitRate Max: 8500
Keep DVD Compliant Video: 1
AC3 Audio Encoder: 0
Force FFmpeg for Long Audio: 1
DVD Audio Format: 2
DVD Audio BitRate: 1536
Keep DVD Compliant Audio: 1
Normalize Audio: 0
Auto Delay Audio: 1
DVD Audio Language (Primary): EN - English
DVD Audio Language (Secondary): EN - English
DVD Subs Language (Primary): EN - English
DVD Subs Language (Secondary): EN - English
DVD Subs Font: Tahoma 16pt (255,255,255)
Chapters Interval: 5
Use Source Chapters: 1
DVD Burning Drive: E: hp DVD A DH16ACSHR JHG7
DVD Burning Speed: 4x
Auto Erase DVD RW: 1
Unload ActiveMovie library: 0
Adjust ffdshow at runtime: 1
Save General Settings: 0
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<8/11/2014 5:33:03 PM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: C:\Users\User\Documents\chershowretry2.avs
Info: AviSynth - 0 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.5 - 29.97 fps (CFR) - 5:50 minutes - 10513 frames
Audio 1: C:\Users\User\Documents\chershowretry2.avs
Info: AviSynth - 0 kbps - CBR - 2 ch - 48000 Hz - 2 bit - 5:50 minutes (0 ms delay)
[AVSMeter.exe]
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<8/11/2014 5:33:03 PM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Video = Import("C:\Users\User\Documents\chershowretry2.avs ")
Audio = Import("C:\Users\User\Documents\chershowretry2.avs ")

Video = Video.ConvertToYV12()
Video = Video.AddBorders(0,30,0,30)
Video = Video.Spline16Resize(720,480)

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
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<8/11/2014 5:33:03 PM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: HCenc VBR 2-pass
Target Video FileSize: 312.3 MB
Encoding Parameters: -ini "C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_0_chershowre try2.HCenc.ini"
HCenc ini file:
*INFILE C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_0_chershowret ry2_1.avs
*AVSRELOAD
*OUTFILE C:\Users\User\Videos\DVD_0_chershowretry2.m2v
*LOGFILE C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_0_chershowret ry2.HCenc.log
*MAXBITRATE 7964
*BITRATE 7464
*PROFILE BEST
*ASPECT 4:3
*PROGRESSIVE
*TFF
*BIAS 70
*DC_PREC 10
*MATRIX MPEG
*AQ 1
*LUMGAIN 1
*SMP
*PRIORITY IDLE
*DBPATH C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp
*WAIT 2
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<8/11/2014 6:15:16 PM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: C:\Users\User\Videos\DVD_0_chershowretry2.m2v (236.9 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 5668 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.333 - 59.94 fps (CFR) - Progressive (TFF) - 5:50 minutes - 21016 frames
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<8/11/2014 6:15:16 PM>
START AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS (Track 1)
FFmpeg (WAV) Parameters: -threads 2 -i "C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_0_chershowre try2_1.avs" "C:\Users\User\Videos\DVD_0_chershowretry2_1.w av"
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<8/11/2014 6:15:28 PM>
END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS (Track 1)
Created File: C:\Users\User\Videos\DVD_0_chershowretry2_1.wav (64.2 MB)
OUTPUT AUDIO INFO: PCM - 1536 kbps - CBR - 2 ch - 48000 Hz - 16 bit - 5:50 minutes (0 ms delay)
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<8/11/2014 6:15:28 PM>
START DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
BatchMux Parameters: -arglist "C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_0_BatchMux.i ni"
BatchMux ini file:
-d "C:\Users\User\Videos\DVD_0\VIDEO_TS"
-mxp "C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_0_MuxMan.mxp "
-l "C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_0_MuxMan.log "
-muxman "C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\MuxMan"
-prio LOW
-palette "C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_0_Palette.tx t"
-v "C:\Users\User\Videos\DVD_0_chershowretry2.m2v "
-vidmode 4:3
-a1 "C:\Users\User\Videos\DVD_0_chershowretry2_1.w av"
-a1lang en
-cellfr "C:\Users\User\Videos\DVD_0_chershowretry2_Chapter s.txt"
-progfr "C:\Users\User\Videos\DVD_0_chershowretry2_Chapter s.txt"
-chapfr "C:\Users\User\Videos\DVD_0_chershowretry2_Chapter s.txt"

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<8/11/2014 6:15:52 PM>
Process aborted during DVD AUTHORING operations!

Check following files for more details:

AVStoDVD log file <C:\Users\User\Videos\DVD_0.log>
BatchMux log file <C:\Users\User\Videos\DVD_0_BatchMux.log>

For more troubleshooting on Authoring issues, see Help/FAQ/Authoring.
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<8/11/2014 6:15:59 PM>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.7.4
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[poisondeathray]

When I encoded with Hcenc through avstodvd it was running around 19fps...running directly through hcenc I'm running around 2fps

Then something is very wrong. Post the log file

If you open that script in vdub and use file=> run video analysis pass, what approx FPS do you get? Or use avsmeter . That's the maximum theoretical FPS you can get with that script

[poisondeathray]

It's the same problem

Info: AviSynth - 0 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.5 - 29.97 fps (CFR) - 5:50 minutes - 10513 frames
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OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 5668 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.333 - 59.94 fps (CFR) - Progressive (TFF) - 5:50 minutes - 21016

What does the hcenc log file say? This one:
LOGFILE C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_0_chershowret ry2.HCenc.log

Maybe these issues are fixed in 2.7.5

[Cherbette]

1.40fps

[Cherbette]

That log does not exist...at least not at that location

[poisondeathray]

1.40fps ? Not 140fps? with avsmeter ?

Then how in the world are you getting 19 in avstodvd. It's impossible

[Cherbette]

I can't figure out how to use avsmeter? I don't know command line...

[poisondeathray]

I can't figure out how to use avsmeter? I don't know command line...

It's just

avsmeter input.avs -l

It doesn't matter, if you only got 2fps in vdub with analysis pass, that tells you right away something is fishy (you already knew that from the avs2dvd log, with 59.94 frame rate, 2x frames) . I think it's fair to say that version of avs2dvd that you are using isn't working properly

Did you finish the hcenc (standalone) encode ? Notice that was about 2 fps as well a lot closer to the vdub analysis pass. That one is probably functional

I would still address the other problems first that jagabo raised. No use wasting time encoding, when you 're just going to probably want to do it again later

[Cherbette]

What problems did he raise? You mean running santiag in the script?

[poisondeathray]

What problems did he raise? You mean running santiag in the script?

In general, you can't use progressive filters on interlaced content. You need to group even/odd fields and apply to them separately if it's a temporal filter, or if only spatial, just separating the fields . Santiag will ruin the interlace, blur the fields and sharpening while it's interlaced with a non interlace aware filter will generate artifacts

Those things won't affect the technical aspects (like resolution , frame rate), so you can still make a DVD technically - only the quality will be adversely impacted

[Cherbette]

What's a good anti-aliasing filter I could use instead that wouldn't cause such issues

[_MrC_]

1. Input AviSynth script file should be 59.94 fps (post #127). Interlaced? Progressive?
2. AVStoDVD recognizes it as 29.97 fps progressive (post #134). Weird!!!
3. AVStoDVD AviSynth working script does not alter the frame rate (post #134)
4. Output m2v is 59.94 fps, accordingly to input avs (bullet point #1), but progressive, according to bullet point #2.

Is AVStoDVD wrong when reading 29.97 fps instead of 59.94 fps? It could be. Workaround: go to 'Title'/'Edit Source Title Info'/'Video Framerate' and put 59.94 instead of 29.97 fps.

Is AVStoDVD wrong when reading Progressive instead of Interlaced? It could be. Workaround: go to 'Title'/'Edit Source Title Info'/'Video Scan Type' and put Interlaced.




Bye

[_MrC_]

But, frankly speaking, why don't you add directly to AVStoDVD the original AVI file (Chershowretry1.avi ?) and edit the AviSynth script within AVStoDVD GUI ('Edit Title'/'AviSynth')? You can easily edit the script, add your filters, preview the output, then start the conversion....



Bye

[jagabo]

What's a good anti-aliasing filter I could use instead that wouldn't cause such issues

You already avoided that problem by running Santiag() and FineSharp() before interlacing. I'd go ahead and move AddGrainC() before it too.

That problem has nothing to do with your issue of 60p output from the MPEG 2 encoder.

[Cherbette]

1. Input AviSynth script file should be 59.94 fps (post #127). Interlaced? Progressive?
2. AVStoDVD recognizes it as 29.97 fps progressive (post #134). Weird!!!
3. AVStoDVD AviSynth working script does not alter the frame rate (post #134)
4. Output m2v is 59.94 fps, accordingly to input avs (bullet point #1), but progressive, according to bullet point #2.

Is AVStoDVD wrong when reading 29.97 fps instead of 59.94 fps? It could be. Workaround: go to 'Title'/'Edit Source Title Info'/'Video Framerate' and put 59.94 instead of 29.97 fps.

Is AVStoDVD wrong when reading Progressive instead of Interlaced? It could be. Workaround: go to 'Title'/'Edit Source Title Info'/'Video Scan Type' and put Interlaced.




Bye

See post 93. That's pretty much my chain. I'm on the last step.

[poisondeathray]

Sorry I missed that you changed the order of the script in post #128, that part is ok now

[_MrC_]

See post 93. That's pretty much my chain. I'm on the last step.

Ok, why don't you feed AVStoDVD directly with the RGB AVI output from VirtualDub? Then, if you want, you can add the following filters Dither_convert_rgb_to_yuv, GradFun3, Santiag, FineSharp, Addgrainc) using AVStoDVD GUI.



Bye