MS doesn't make much money from retail sales of Windows.Originally Posted by edDV
Most OS sales are to OEMs, preinstalled on new PCs.
And Microsoft has local subsidiaries and distributors in every country (except North Korea, I guess). They'd be really pissed if Seattle was selling direct. And there are issues of support and service that can't be done over the phone.
Most people never update their OS (patches, yes, new OS, no), because the new OS are usually much more resource hungry and would run like crap on older hardware, and most people don't care what OS it is as long as it works when they turn it on. People run the original OS till the machine dies, in general.
As for "sell it a a premium"? Why would anyone pay more to get IE, when they can DOWNLOAD IT FREE or get it any one of a dozen ways as I've said over and over above. Anyone who actually wants to install their own OS certainly does know how to do that. Firefox is 7 MB and a couple of clicks.
MS tries to ask more for IE? MS is the one that started the "Browser War" by undercutting the paid version of Netscape by giving away IE.
Anyway, nothing has happened in the real world. Microsoft will comply in the slowest and most obstructive way. The E edition isn't on sale anywhere. I've yet to hear of anyone actually getting this version on their PCs. MS will just dick around and pay fines if necessary for years and years until all the technical issues are completely obsolete.
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Originally Posted by AlanHK
I totally agree with the 1st and last sentence, as that's what MS has done in the past. However, I do doubt that was the motive this time. I think they are trying to play the EU commision for what they seem to be.
The middle sentence well everyone could guess that. Win7 wont be released until Oct 22nd and the EU version was just announced. Obviously no one has either final versions yet
I think since MS played this card, the EU commision will say that it will not accept it as a resolution. Then this will be a back and forth with laywers and Media grandstanding by both.
Just think, Opera (payware) is sitting back laughin the butts off. You do know the main reason this is going on is because Opera (payware) wants desktop space too.
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Originally Posted by AlanHK
The major upgrade volume goes to business users that have been clinging to XP Pro because of legacy XP application issues. That is mostly solved by XP emulation in Win7 Premium or corp editions.
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Originally Posted by stiltman
(Except maybe some mobile phone versions.)
I use it myself.
Anyway, why should they "laugh", they haven't won anything. Microsoft will have some inconvenience, but will not share "their" market with anyone.
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This is getting cumbersome so I won't respond to the issues I think I won.
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Just like Google nearly killed Yahoo.
Just like OpenSource is trying to kill for pay apps? As an interested player, shouldn't the EU be seeing "Open Source" as a tax dodge? Shouldn't "Open Source" be taxed at market value?
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IMO this suit is ridiculous. Netscape lost the browser war because it produced an inferior product. If IE was not somewhat better, it could not have won, even giving it away for free. MS Paint is free, but it is an inferior product compared to almost all other pay or free graphics programs.
I used Netscape when I first signed up for Internet access in 1996. Netscape was provided for free by my ISP, so paying was for it not an issue.
When IE 5 became available, I liked it better. IE loaded pages faster and the user interface was superior. I stopped using Netscape entirely when website compatibility was no longer an issue. -
Microsoft offers EU 'browser ballot' compromise
In a reversal on Friday, Microsoft said it is now open to allowing users in Europe to select competing browsers in Windows 7.
Essentially, Microsoft is offering to put into Windows a way for consumers to easily install a rival to Internet Explorer. PC makers, as they can today, could still install a rival browser and could also disable Internet Explorer, if they choose.
"Under our new proposal, among other things, European consumers who buy a new Windows PC with Internet Explorer set as their default browser would be shown a 'ballot screen' from which they could, if they wished, easily install competing browsers from the Web," Microsoft general counsel Brad Smith said in a statement -
Originally Posted by usually_quiet
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Google wants to turn their Chrome browser into an OS for Netbooks.
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As I understand it, the Chrome OS will be free. That would be very anti-competative, if it catches on. To prevent such an awful outcome, the EU must ban it now, before it is too late!
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Google search however would not be claimed to be an integral, indivisible part of the OS.
Benard Madoff got found out, when will Microsoft?Corned beef is now made to a higher standard than at any time in history.
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Originally Posted by RabidDog
I still think Mercedes and BMW should be required to ship to the USA with an API, not a drivetrain or electronic accessories*.
I'm trying to think of a UK example but I can't think of anything of significance imported from the UK. Other than your engineers and doctors.
* No I don't support that other than as a grand retaliation threat. I'd go through with it if there was no back off.
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Found it
British Exports to U.S.
Of the $53.4 billion in American imports from Britain in 2006, the following product categories had the highest values.
Medicinal, dental & pharmaceutical preparations …US$8.2 billion (15.3% of Britain to U.S. exports, up 41.8% from 2005)
New & used passenger cars … $5 billion (9.3%, down 12.5%)
Other petroleum products … $3.6 billion (6.8%, up 22.7%)
Crude oil … $2.9 billion (5.5%, down 37.2%)
Civilian aircraft engines … $2.3 billion (4.4%, up 18%)
Goods returned to U.S. then reimported … $2.1 billion (4%, down 0.9%)
Collectibles (e.g. artwork, antiques, stamps) … $1.6 billion (2.9%, up 13.2%)
Materials handling equipment … $1.24 billion (2.3%, up 36.1%)
Precious metals other than gold … $1.237 billion (2.3%, up 36.1%)
Alcoholic beverages other than wine … $1.2 billion (2.2%, up 11.8%)
Read more: http://international-trade-leaders.suite101.com/article.cfm/top_uk_exports_imports#ixzz0MhaFhTFy
More interesting are the growth export markets. Hair?
Non-monetary gold … US$37.3 million (up 4,073% from 2005)
Civilian aircraft (complete) … $55.9 million (up 739%)
Tin … $15.3 million (up 353%)
Newsprint … $12.4 million (up 193%)
Miscellaneous (e.g. hair, waste materials) … $38.7 million (up 130%)
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