What sort of camera would be needed to shoot a film that would be shown in cinema?
what sort of file would it need to be if it were to be shown in cinema, just assume the local cinema said they would show it?
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It depends on the cinema, or which theatre
For some "Indie" scenarios, certain festivals - sometimes there is no minimum requirement. Content /storytelling /acting/ directing is more important.
Other times, there are more strict requirements for acquisition
what sort of file would it need to be if it were to be shown in cinema, just assume the local cinema said they would show it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Cinema_Package
There are free/open source alternatives that can create the package such as OpenDCP -
Thanks. what camera would be need to create the DCP or can a package be created from any camera like aDSLR?
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No cameras create DCP directly. It is expected that there will be post-production work. The last stage in the post workflow prior to distribution to cinemas is creation of the DCP, using dedicated tools.
Note that there does exist a couple of opensource DCP tools, for just such a need as yours. Haven't had need to try them so won't comment on how compatible or featured they may or may not be.
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I suspect the camera itself would be the least of the issues you'd face.
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Unless I'm very much mistaken, the only digital camera that truly allows you to SHOOT* in black&white (aka grayscale) is the Leica Monochrom series. And those currently only support 1080p.
You can, of course, shoot with most any digital video-capable camera, in color, and desaturate in post.
*(You can also shoot using a color-sensored cam while using a desaturate filter, but it will apply demosaicing all the same and lose some of the detail to interpolation - only a sensor the doesn't use a beyer mosaic filter can avoid this. Hence, not true b&w.)
ScottLast edited by Cornucopia; 24th Aug 2020 at 23:52.
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Read through these site:
https://mango.blender.org/production/4k-dcp-available-for-testing/
https://www.dolby.com/uploadedFiles/Assets/US/Doc/Professional/DSS200_Specifications.pdf
As a general rule of thumb, you will probably want to shoot RAW, your post workflow will vary depending on software you use and effects you use, you can create a master in a number of formats, but i see no reason why you can't master in the same format as you give to the cinema. -
https://vimeo.com/87582861
i want to upload it to Vimeo as the above film. The above is just sample of a short I came across though i thought the Martha Marcy May Marlene was excellent. I note the one linked above is mpeg 4 and 4.2.0. Would that be acceptable?
General
Complete name : C:\movies\Mary Last Seen-87582861.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size : 81.5 MiB
Duration : 13 min 38 s
Overall bit rate : 835 kb/s
Writing application : Lavf58.17.100
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 13 min 38 s
Bit rate : 714 kb/s
Width : 640 pixels
Height : 358 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.104
Stream size : 69.7 MiB (86%)
Writing library : x264 core 140 r2377 1ca7bb9
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / stitchable=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=90 / keyint_min=30 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=5 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=1125 / vbv_bufsize=3750 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.601 NTSC
Transfer characteristics : BT.601
Matrix coefficients : BT.601
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 13 min 38 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 112 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 spf)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 10.9 MiB (13%)
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1
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Those specs are the re-encoded specs that vimeo uses, not the uploaded video specs
Some vimeo videos have a "download" button and if there is an "original" option listed - if you download that - it's the same uploaded version
Vimeo is like youtube - they are flexible in terms of the uploaded format . They re-encode everything for the distributed streaming format, but with slightly higher quality than youtube. Paid vimeo accounts get higher bitrate, higher quality, better encoding settings. Vimeo has nothing to do with DCP or cinema -
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