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  1. Hi. Thanks for stopping by.

    I've streamed Amazon JAWS 4K UHD, and it's smoother (less grainy) looking---without sacrificing clarity---than my JAWS 4K UHD disc.

    I've used my external UHD drive, and my Panasonic UHD player to play the disc. I use an ACER 280 4k UHD, HDR 10 monitor. The HDMI cable is 4k 18Gbs, HDR, HDCP 2.2.

    Unless the JAWS streaming content is actually 8K?
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  2. The BD is probably more faithful to the actual film -- full of grain. Amazon is interested in reducing the bitrate so they remove all the grain.
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  3. Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    The BD is probably more faithful to the actual film -- full of grain. Amazon is interested in reducing the bitrate so they remove all the grain (which costs lot of bitrate).
    Thanks.
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    Originally Posted by ZackyDog View Post
    Hi. Thanks for stopping by.

    I've streamed Amazon JAWS 4K UHD, and it's smoother (less grainy) looking---without sacrificing clarity---than my JAWS 4K UHD disc.

    I've used my external UHD drive, and my Panasonic UHD player to play the disc. I use an ACER 280 4k UHD, HDR 10 monitor. The HDMI cable is 4k 18Gbs, HDR, HDCP 2.2.

    Unless the JAWS streaming content is actually 8K?
    see this thread post # 15 - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=318530
    see if your display is set up properly.
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  5. Originally Posted by october262 View Post
    Originally Posted by ZackyDog View Post
    Hi. Thanks for stopping by.

    I've streamed Amazon JAWS 4K UHD, and it's smoother (less grainy) looking---without sacrificing clarity---than my JAWS 4K UHD disc.

    I've used my external UHD drive, and my Panasonic UHD player to play the disc. I use an ACER 280 4k UHD, HDR 10 monitor. The HDMI cable is 4k 18Gbs, HDR, HDCP 2.2.

    Unless the JAWS streaming content is actually 8K?
    see this thread post # 15 - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=318530
    see if your display is set up properly.
    Thanks.
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  6. bad hdr setting on your tv maybe
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  7. Post a small sample of each so we can see ourselves.
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  8. I figured out that the Amazon 4K UHD streaming version, is really an upscaled version of the regular Blu-ray disc, and not the 4K UHD disc.

    I did change out my cables to premium certified 4K UHD cables. Fortunately, they were inexpensive.

    Here's a comparison of the JAWS 4K UHD and Blu-ray versions:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW8zNI8Ir-0


    Thanks to all who tried to help.
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  9. I figured out that the Amazon 4K UHD streaming version, is really an upscaled version of the regular Blu-ray disc
    How did you figure this out ? Be interested to know. Did Amzn tell you this ?
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  10. Jaws 1 is one of my favorite movies, and I watch it every time it comes on TV, the only thing is I would like to see a slightly updated "Director's Cut" with a couple of small changes:

    1) Replace the boat with a nuclear powered aircraft carrier

    2) Replace the great white shark with a black sea bass

    3) Change Chief Brody's line to "We're going to need a smaller boat".
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  11. Originally Posted by sophisticles View Post
    jaws 1 is one of my favorite movies, and i watch it every time it comes on tv, the only thing is i would like to see a slightly updated "director's cut" with a couple of small changes:

    1) replace the boat with a nuclear powered aircraft carrier

    2) replace the great white shark with a black sea bass

    3) change chief brody's line to "we're going to need a smaller boat".
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  12. Originally Posted by codehound View Post
    I figured out that the Amazon 4K UHD streaming version, is really an upscaled version of the regular Blu-ray disc
    How did you figure this out ? Be interested to know. Did Amzn tell you this ?
    I have both the JAWS Blu-ray and the 4k UHD discs. I have done numerous comparisons, but most recently with my Blu-ray disc. My Blu-ray matches the "4k UHD" Amazon streaming.
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  13. The PC doesn't have HDR (yet, I ordered a GPU with HDMI 2.0 and HDR), but the standalone 4K UHD player does. It looks better/perfect, using the latter and my new premium certified 4K UHD cables have also helped.

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  14. Originally Posted by ZackyDog View Post
    The PC doesn't have HDR (yet, I ordered a GPU with HDMI 2.0 and HDR), but the standalone 4K UHD player does. It looks better/perfect, using the latter and my new premium certified 4K UHD cables have also helped.

    And...............?
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  15. Originally Posted by codehound View Post
    Originally Posted by ZackyDog View Post
    The PC doesn't have HDR (yet, I ordered a GPU with HDMI 2.0 and HDR), but the standalone 4K UHD player does. It looks better/perfect, using the latter and my new premium certified 4K UHD cables have also helped.

    And...............?
    And...............I'm waiting for the new GPU so I can have HDR on my desktop.
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  16. Good for you - and in the Video Streaming Downloading forum we need to know this because........?

    And have you got any bigger screengrabs?
    Last edited by codehound; 13th Sep 2021 at 20:02.
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  17. Originally Posted by s-mp View Post
    bad hdr setting on your tv maybe
    Yes, or on my monitor in this case. I shouldn't use HDR/it in desktop mode (until I get my new GPU). It makes videos and pictures look grainier.

    When I bypass the desktop GPU, and connect the monitor (with HDR activated) to a standalone 4K UHD player, it looks perfect.
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  18. Originally Posted by ZackyDog View Post
    Originally Posted by s-mp View Post
    bad hdr setting on your tv maybe
    Yes, or on my monitor in this case. I shouldn't use HDR/it in desktop mode (until I get my new GPU). It makes videos and pictures look grainier.

    When I bypass the desktop GPU, and connect the monitor (with HDR activated) to a standalone 4K UHD player, it looks perfect.
    Congratulations, I am sure this information will assist everyone greatly with downloading streams from various websites. Thank you. And thank you for the brilliant screengrabs too of your "premium certified" cables. Utterly amazing.
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  19. It's just film bro.
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  20. Originally Posted by 4kblurayguru View Post
    It's just film bro.
    Yeah, I know but every little bit helps. I've been seduced by HDR.
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  21. Originally Posted by sophisticles View Post
    Post a small sample of each so we can see ourselves.
    I just got a discrete GPU with HDR. I would post a 4K/2160P 10-bit HDR screenshot, but it looks washed out (the meta data doesn't transfer [?]). Blu-ray/1080P screenshots look great/match the original.

    Regards.
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  22. 4K top, no HDR; Blu-ray bottom

    HDR results in a faded/washed out look.
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  23. HDR has to be tone mapped for SDR displays. 10bit HDR downscaled, not tone mapped, tone mapped:

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  24. Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    HDR has to be tone mapped for SDR displays. 10bit HDR downscaled, not tone mapped, tone mapped:

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    Tone mapped? Does that mean, adjusted and/or compensated, etc.?
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  25. Originally Posted by ZackyDog View Post
    Tone mapped? Does that mean, adjusted and/or compensated, etc.?
    Kinda.
    Tone mapping is a technique used in image processing and computer graphics to map one set of colors to another to approximate the appearance of high-dynamic-range images in a medium that has a more limited dynamic range.
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  26. Last edited by ZackyDog; 28th Oct 2021 at 05:33.
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