I've been using Hauppauge Colossus 2 PCI Express Internal for more than 6 years now and it served me (and still) very well during those years.
I want to get another capture card now with the following features:
- External Capture Card.
- Offline Recording (with good Internal memory space).
- Record up to 20 Mbps.
- Able to capture 5.1 channel AC3 stream from cable box.
- Have decent capturing software with schedule recording.
Appreciate your suggestions.
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Don't you mean the Hauppauge Colossus PCI Express as Colossus 2 PCI Express hasn't been out that long it beardly 4 years old
Sometime coming soon from Hauppauge you see when I post
LoL it a lot space in a small package that just a hint
I kind doubt it that high
As for capture 5.1 channel AC3 stream that not going happing
Support for OBS and XSplit Broadcaster plus it own software
Other then that look at problem child AVerMedia and there product.Last edited by SHS; 16th Feb 2019 at 15:15.
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It's a lot better to get a third party HD cable set top box with DVR and cable card (If paid subscription), No transcoding no quality loss, You record what's being sent bit by bit.
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So it's even better, DVB-C devices and set top boxes with DVR are widely available in Europe.
This box for instance gets DVB-C (cable), DVB-T and DVB-T2 (terrestrial), DVB-S and DVB-S2 (satellite) and online apps, It records to a USB flash drive. Good luck finding something like this in the US.
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I have been here long enough to know that various European countries use CAMs for paid OTA, cable, and satellite services, but dellsam recommended US model CableCARD tuners from Ceton, which aren't going to be useful anywhere else because they only accept US CableCARDs.
So your point in bringing this up is what? Do you have any specific device in mind or are you just being petty? Also, these services are encrypted and the recordings made by devices that accept CAMs are often encrypted too. Recording the stream gets you a file that is unplayable except using the individual device that made it.Last edited by usually_quiet; 18th Feb 2019 at 13:11.
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The physical CableCARD and CAM module and CI+ card that are inserted into the host device is a PC PCMCIA Type II card that handles all decryption there for the same that what I refer to where do you think the USA CableCard idea come from but with USA own little spin on it, So in Reality it the same the principal.
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I also find it ironic to suggest recording of On-Demand material.
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Android run a lot of stuff nowadays it is not meant for just phones anymore, It is as powerful as Windows or IOS.
I believe they do have cable cards in Europe, I know they do for satellite. The card idea came from Europe where anyone can go and buy any satellite receiver and just order the card to get the programming package, Kind of like the GSM phones here where you buy a GSM SIM card and buy your own phone which is again a European thing. US companies got greedy and they want their proprietary hardware to make it harder to make a switch to competitors, That's why we ended up with Sprint, Verizon, DishNet, DirectTV ...etc. In the US cable channels use to be all clear and locked by a physical lock in the distribution box outside the house, They got smarter and smarter to the point where cards are not used anymore again, DN stopped cards few years ago, all their receivers are cardless. But here in the US streaming and Android media boxes are killing them, Let them taste their own medicine.Last edited by dellsam34; 18th Feb 2019 at 14:12.
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Once again you are wrong. I specifically meant US CableCARDs because Ceton's tuners don't accept anything other than US CableCARDs. Other countries have other similar-looking devices but they are not CableCARDs, cannot legally be called "CableCARDs" and don't work in Ceton's CableCARD tuners. The name "CableCARD" is trademarked by CableLabs and refers to specific US-only CableLabs and FCC-approved smart cards, not CAMs in general.
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No. The name "CableCARD" is trademarked by CableLabs. The term CableCARD should only be used for specific devices made for the US market which meet FCC requirements and passed CableLabs certification. Europe has CAMs (conditional access modules) that are known by other names.
None of that means that it is possible in every case to watch recordings made with a third-party satellite receiver or cable box without using the same individual unit that made the recording. They can be locked to the box that made them.
I am not sure that you understand the limitations imposed on CableCARD devices by the US cable industry either. For what it is worth, I have been using a CableCARD tuner to record and watch TV for 4 years. Neither a TiVo or CableCARD tuner is guaranteed to provide portable, unencrypted recordings for every channel. Recordings for some channels (maybe even most channels for some cable service providers or some cable packages) will be recorded to an encrypted file that is only watchable with the individual unit that made the recording or not recorded at all.Ignore list: hello_hello, tried, TechLord, Snoopy329 -
You are slapping a trade mark on everything, I said cable card not CableCARD, Lets just call it access card from now on. Again the technology is European not US. The whole point is in Europe you have better choices than here, It has nothing to do with compatibility between US and Europe, Plus in Europe and I know this from personal experience of owning several satellite receivers including the Aston brand when I lived there, once the stream is decrypted by the card it becomes clear and you can do whatever you want with it, You are confusing US cable system encryption with something you know nothing about in a different world.
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How long ago did you live there? I have a feeling that it is no longer an entirely different world in Europe with respect to DRM anymore. Some STBs might provide user access to unencrypted recordings but I have seen some indications that not all STBs allow such freedom. Today, it might take some luck to find a STB that doesn't encrypt the recordings it makes of some HD programming.
For example:
Some Freeview satellite receivers in the UK do encrypt recordings based on copy protection flags in the signal. https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/365267-Freeview-PVR-that-allows-HD-unencrypted-vid...transfer-to-PC.
Set-top boxes for DVB-C can also encrypt recordings: https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/372858-Record-shows-on-DVB-C-HD-Set-top-box-PVR-us...other-than-TVSIgnore list: hello_hello, tried, TechLord, Snoopy329 -
Perhaps he means Avermedia's EZRecorder 130 and Game Capture HD II? They are stand alone capture devices and I have recommended them at times, but I don't think you would be satisfied with them. They lack most of the other features that you want and they are not without problems
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There is one AVerMedia product that I forgot about, the EzRecorder 310 which comes closer to what you want than the other two. It won't do AC3 recording but has some of the other features that you want. The product page is here: https://www.avermedia.com/tv_more/product/streaming_capture/ezrecorder_310 You should read the manual and look at the FAQs.
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