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I'm having issues with ripping from a Blu Ray.
I've ripped the Blu Ray to an iso (quicker than trying to rip it from the disk each time).
If I rip it into mkv passthrough (no compression) then the resulting file plays as I want it to.
This is through Windows Media Centre using LAV Splitter as a codec, also VSFilter for the subs.
I have a button mapped on my Logitech Harmony so I can switch sub titles on/off - mapped directly into LAV codec settings.
When I rip uncompressed mkv, this works OK. But I would like to reduce file size.
If I use Handbrake the resulting file is re-coded OK quality wise. However it doesn't play using LAV splitter & subs are not accessible.
Film is actually Lord of the Rings extended Edition and is also in two parts. I can 'join' them together ok and edit chapters etc. Its just the compressed file from Handbrake doesn't play using my preferred codec.
Here's the media info for each file.
UnCompressed mkv:
Re-coded using Handbrake:Code:General Unique ID : 202742326891537508749081135200562207893 (0x9886C0784AD82BF79A462CAB2E5E5C95) Complete name : D:/LOTR/The Lord of The Rings The Fellowship of The Ring/MKV Passthrough/Merged file_1/The Lord Of The Rings - The Fellowship Of The Ring.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 4 / Version 2 File size : 55.2 GiB Duration : 3h 48mn Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 34.6 Mbps Movie name : The Lord Of The Rings - The Fellowship Of The Ring Encoded date : UTC 2016-02-06 15:03:04 Writing application : mkvmerge v7.8.0 ('River Man') 64bit built on Mar 27 2015 16:31:37 Writing library : libebml v1.3.1 + libmatroska v1.4.2 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.1 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=10 Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 3h 48mn Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 29.9 Mbps Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.601 Stream size : 47.6 GiB (86%) Title : The Lord Of The Rings - The Fellowship Of The Ring Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Audio ID : 2 Format : DTS Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems Format profile : MA / ES Discrete / Core Mode : 16 Format settings, Endianness : Big Codec ID : A_DTS Duration : 3h 48mn Bit rate mode : Variable / Constant / Constant Bit rate : 4 742 Kbps / 1 509 Kbps / 1 509 Kbps Channel(s) : 7 channels / 7 channels / 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: C, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: C, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Frame rate : 93.750 fps (512 spf) Bit depth : 24 bits Compression mode : Lossless / Lossy / Lossy Stream size : 7.56 GiB (14%) Title : The Lord Of The Rings - The Fellowship Of The Ring Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Text ID : 3 Format : VobSub Muxing mode : zlib Codec ID : S_VOBSUB Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on DVDs Duration : 3h 47mn Bit rate : 3 529 bps Count of elements : 1829 Stream size : 5.75 MiB (0%) Title : The Lord Of The Rings - The Fellowship Of The Ring Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Menu 00:00:00.000 : en:(01)00:00:00:000 00:07:36.789 : en:(02)00:07:36:789 00:10:35.551 : en:(03)00:10:35:551 00:15:39.855 : en:(04)00:15:39:855 00:19:58.488 : en:(05)00:19:58:488 00:25:32.614 : en:(06)00:25:32:614 00:29:57.378 : en:(07)00:29:57:378 00:32:10.678 : en:(08)00:32:10:678 00:34:51.798 : en:(09)00:34:51:798 00:36:18.176 : en:(10)00:36:18:176 00:45:04.159 : en:(11)00:45:04:159 00:46:44.301 : en:(12)00:46:44:301 00:51:21.411 : en:(13)00:51:21:411 00:55:12.434 : en:(14)00:55:12:434 00:57:30.071 : en:(15)00:57:30:071 01:03:31.516 : en:(16)01:03:31:516 01:07:16.115 : en:(17)01:07:16:115 01:08:53.587 : en:(18)01:08:53:587 01:10:35.940 : en:(19)01:10:35:940 01:15:15.385 : en:(20)01:15:15:385 01:17:46.620 : en:(21)01:17:46:620 01:24:11.546 : en:(22)01:24:11:546 01:26:12.500 : en:(23)01:26:12:500 01:29:41.584 : en:(24)01:29:41:584 01:33:14.672 : en:(25)01:33:14:672 01:35:54.081 : en:(26)01:35:54:081 01:37:32.972 : en:(27)01:37:32:972 01:45:42.878 : en:(28)01:45:42.878 01:46:58.745 : en:(29)01:46:58.745 01:48:42.140 : en:(30)01:48:42.140 01:49:59.551 : en:(31)01:49:59.551 01:53:05.361 : en:(32)01:53:05.361 01:57:51.647 : en:(33)01:57:51.647 02:04:16.991 : en:(34)02:04:16.991 02:10:47.339 : en:(35)02:10:47.339 02:20:12.070 : en:(36)02:20:12.070 02:29:53.526 : en:(37)02:29:53.526 02:33:06.176 : en:(38)02:33:06.176 02:40:23.196 : en:(39)02:40:23.196 02:46:03.203 : en:(40)02:46:03.203 02:47:44.596 : en:(41)02:47:44.596 02:53:07.084 : en:(42)02:53:07.084 02:57:59.335 : en:(43)02:57:59.335 03:04:27.097 : en:(44)03:04:27.097 03:11:43.033 : en:(45)03:11:43.033 03:14:25.361 : en:(46)03:14:25.361 03:20:43.573 : en:(47)03:20:43.573 03:28:24.033 : en:(48)03:28:24.033 03:48:17.183 : en:(49)03:48:17.183
Any ideas how I can achieve what I want?Code:General Unique ID : 247297565403402400603856236464350951764 (0xBA0BC754D96AD27C5DA1AEEF89EBF954) Complete name : D:/LOTR/The Lord of The Rings The Fellowship of The Ring/MKV Passthrough/Merged file_1/Handbrake/The Lord Of The Rings - The Fellowship Of The Ring.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 2 File size : 7.87 GiB Duration : 3h 48mn Overall bit rate : 4 935 Kbps Movie name : The Lord Of The Rings - The Fellowship Of The Ring Encoded date : UTC 2016-02-07T10:14:16Z Writing application : HandBrake 0.10.3 2016012200 Writing library : Lavf55.12.0 / Lavf55.12.0 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : Main@L4 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 3h 48mn Bit rate : 4 197 Kbps Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 800 pixels Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.114 Stream size : 6.69 GiB (85%) Writing library : x264 core 142 r2479 dd79a61 Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=hex / subme=2 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=4 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=10 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=20000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 Default : Yes Forced : No Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Audio ID : 2 Format : AC-3 Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 Mode extension : CM (complete main) Format settings, Endianness : Big Codec ID : A_AC3 Duration : 3h 48mn Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 640 Kbps Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Frame rate : 31.250 fps (1536 spf) Compression mode : Lossy Delay relative to video : -5ms Stream size : 1.02 GiB (13%) Title : Surround Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Text ID : 3 Format : VobSub Codec ID : S_VOBSUB Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on DVDs Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Menu 00:00:00.000 : :(01)00:00:00:000 00:07:36.873 : :(02)00:07:36:789 00:10:35.635 : :(03)00:10:35:551 00:15:39.939 : :(04)00:15:39:855 00:19:58.572 : :(05)00:19:58:488 00:25:32.697 : :(06)00:25:32:614 00:29:57.462 : :(07)00:29:57:378 00:32:10.762 : :(08)00:32:10:678 00:34:51.881 : :(09)00:34:51:798 00:36:18.259 : :(10)00:36:18:176 00:45:04.243 : :(11)00:45:04:159 00:46:44.384 : :(12)00:46:44:301 00:51:21.495 : :(13)00:51:21:411 00:55:12.517 : :(14)00:55:12:434 00:57:30.155 : :(15)00:57:30:071 01:03:31.599 : :(16)01:03:31:516 01:07:16.198 : :(17)01:07:16:115 01:08:53.671 : :(18)01:08:53:587 01:10:36.023 : :(19)01:10:35:940 01:15:15.469 : :(20)01:15:15:385 01:17:46.703 : :(21)01:17:46:620 01:24:11.629 : :(22)01:24:11:546 01:26:12.584 : :(23)01:26:12:500 01:29:41.667 : :(24)01:29:41:584 01:33:14.755 : :(25)01:33:14:672 01:35:54.165 : :(26)01:35:54:081 01:37:33.055 : :(27)01:37:32:972 01:45:43.003 : :(28)01:45:42.878 01:46:58.829 : :(29)01:46:58.745 01:48:42.265 : :(30)01:48:42.140 01:49:59.676 : :(31)01:49:59.551 01:53:05.487 : :(32)01:53:05.361 01:57:51.773 : :(33)01:57:51.647 02:04:17.158 : :(34)02:04:16.991 02:10:47.506 : :(35)02:10:47.339 02:20:12.237 : :(36)02:20:12.070 02:29:53.693 : :(37)02:29:53.526 02:33:06.260 : :(38)02:33:06.176 02:40:23.280 : :(39)02:40:23.196 02:46:03.370 : :(40)02:46:03.203 02:47:44.721 : :(41)02:47:44.596 02:53:07.168 : :(42)02:53:07.084 02:57:59.502 : :(43)02:57:59.335 03:04:27.181 : :(44)03:04:27.097 03:11:43.200 : :(45)03:11:43.033 03:14:25.445 : :(46)03:14:25.361 03:20:43.698 : :(47)03:20:43.573 03:28:24.200 : :(48)03:28:24.033
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First one subtitles use zlib compression, second does not? So can you set it up while muxing in Handbrake? If not try to use MKVmerge and just remux it, using zlib compression for subtitles (should be as default I think). Not sure if that is the problem, give it a shot.
Also, first video uses VobSub for subtitles, I never seen VobSub with HD BD video, so that mkv might not be straight lossless copy, or maybe just someone changed or re-encoded subtitles. -
Thanks for the prompt response. I really appreciate it.
I will try a couple of things and post back with my results. -
When you join the two parts, check to see if the second half has the audio and video out of sync. This happened on my U.S. versions, the audio and video streams not being the same length.
The fix is to remux the first part to BD folder with tsMuxer and run the BD through ClownBD and have it trim the last second of the movie. Then put it in MKV container with MMG and join the two parts that way. Chapters should be re-timed correctly. If you join the two BDs with tsMuxer first, your second half chapter times will be off.
Then re-encode with whatever. I use Ripbot personally, but all the popular frontends like Handbrake, Ripbot, et al use the x264 encoder anyway, so that's a matter of taste. I'd recommend you use one pass crf quality based encoding at crf 18-20. File size will be unpredictable, but you'll get the same quality (close enough) each time. Movies vary greatly in their compressibility, due to grain, motion, etc.
Good luck and welcome to the forum.
[EDIT] Oh, and yes, your subs are a problem in the remux to BD step (if you have to do that). You may have to demux them and remux them in when you use MMG.Last edited by fritzi93; 14th Feb 2016 at 07:16.
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@ _Al_
I did try remuxing the encoded file but it didn't have the desired results.
@fritzi93:
I dont seem to have had any issues in merging the 2 parts to the film together.
I have ripped from BD using DVD Fab - selecting MKV passthru - only selecting the video, audio ,English PGS subs(this time), and the chapters.
Done this for both parts.
Then remuxed with MKV Toolnix. Opening part one, then selecting 'append' to add in part 2.
Then editing the chapters by hand to renumber the ones for part 2.
All seems to be OK, I have only skipped through to the second half but there isn't any audio sync issues. Unless they will only become apparent after watching the whole file and it gradually falls out of sync.
So I have an uncompressed file (containing both parts of film) that plays using LAV splitter, and subs are shown.
Media Info:
Then I encoded with HandbrakeCode:General Unique ID : 190739915256161135667964582034819305178 (0x8F7F2BE35F3FF4F19D00E2088F0CCEDA) Complete name : D:\LOTR\The Lord of The Rings The Fellowship of The Ring\MKV Passthrough PGS Subs\Merged File\THE_LORD_OF_THE_RINGS__THE_FELLOWSHIP_OF_THE_RING.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 4 / Version 2 File size : 55.2 GiB Duration : 3h 48mn Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 34.6 Mbps Movie name : THE_LORD_OF_THE_RINGS__THE_FELLOWSHIP_OF_THE_RING_(EXT.)_-_PT.1.Title1 Encoded date : UTC 2016-02-14 10:50:10 Writing application : mkvmerge v8.8.0 ('Wind at my back') 64bit Writing library : libebml v1.3.3 + libmatroska v1.4.4 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.1 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=10 Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 3h 48mn Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 29.9 Mbps Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.601 Stream size : 47.6 GiB (86%) Default : Yes Forced : No Audio ID : 2 Format : DTS Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems Format profile : MA / ES Discrete / Core Mode : 16 Format settings, Endianness : Big Codec ID : A_DTS Duration : 3h 48mn Bit rate mode : Variable / Constant / Constant Bit rate : 4 742 Kbps / 1 509 Kbps / 1 509 Kbps Channel(s) : 7 channels / 7 channels / 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: C, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: C, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Frame rate : 93.750 fps (512 spf) Bit depth : 24 bits Compression mode : Lossless / Lossy / Lossy Stream size : 7.56 GiB (14%) Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Text ID : 3 Format : PGS Muxing mode : zlib Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs Duration : 3h 47mn Bit rate : 6 177 bps Count of elements : 3658 Stream size : 10.1 MiB (0%) Language : English Default : No Forced : No Menu 00:00:00.000 : en:(01)00:00:00:000 00:07:36.789 : en:(02)00:07:36:789 00:10:35.551 : en:(03)00:10:35:551 00:15:39.855 : en:(04)00:15:39:855 00:19:58.488 : en:(05)00:19:58:488 00:25:32.614 : en:(06)00:25:32:614 00:29:57.378 : en:(07)00:29:57:378 00:32:10.678 : en:(08)00:32:10:678 00:34:51.798 : en:(09)00:34:51:798 00:36:18.176 : en:(10)00:36:18:176 00:45:04.159 : en:(11)00:45:04:159 00:46:44.301 : en:(12)00:46:44:301 00:51:21.411 : en:(13)00:51:21:411 00:55:12.434 : en:(14)00:55:12:434 00:57:30.071 : en:(15)00:57:30:071 01:03:31.516 : en:(16)01:03:31:516 01:07:16.115 : en:(17)01:07:16:115 01:08:53.587 : en:(18)01:08:53:587 01:10:35.940 : en:(19)01:10:35:940 01:15:15.385 : en:(20)01:15:15:385 01:17:46.620 : en:(21)01:17:46:620 01:24:11.546 : en:(22)01:24:11:546 01:26:12.500 : en:(23)01:26:12:500 01:29:41.584 : en:(24)01:29:41:584 01:33:14.672 : en:(25)01:33:14:672 01:35:54.081 : en:(26)01:35:54:081 01:37:32.972 : en:(27)01:37:32:972 01:45:42.878 : en:(28)01:45:42.878 01:46:58.745 : en:(29)01:46:58.745 01:48:42.140 : en:(30)01:48:42.140 01:49:59.551 : en:(31)01:49:59.551 01:53:05.361 : en:(32)01:53:05.361 01:57:51.647 : en:(33)01:57:51.647 02:04:16.991 : en:(34)02:04:16.991 02:10:47.339 : en:(35)02:10:47.339 02:20:12.070 : en:(36)02:20:12.070 02:29:53.526 : en:(37)02:29:53.526 02:33:06.176 : en:(38)02:33:06.176 02:40:23.196 : en:(39)02:40:23.196 02:46:03.203 : en:(40)02:46:03.203 02:47:44.596 : en:(41)02:47:44.596 02:53:07.084 : en:(42)02:53:07.084 02:57:59.335 : en:(43)02:57:59.335 03:04:27.097 : en:(44)03:04:27.097 03:11:43.033 : en:(45)03:11:43.033 03:14:25.361 : en:(46)03:14:25.361 03:20:43.573 : en:(47)03:20:43.573 03:28:24.033 : en:(48)03:28:24.033 03:48:17.183 : en:(49)03:48:17.183
Using these settings:
h.264, FPS: same as source: Variable Framerate, Constant quality 20 RF
Audio: AC3 passthru
Subs: PGS, forced only & Default
Chapters: Create Chapter Markers
This file does not play using LAV splitter and subs are not shown. The quality is really good, as is the sound and is about 7.86GB in size.
Media Info: (didn't include chapter info to save space)
Then remuxed this file selecting to use zlib compression for the subs.Code:General Unique ID : 146732446197459565300022243829191503781 (0x6E63A425526AC7951AB549A344B76FA5) Complete name : D:\LOTR\The Lord of The Rings The Fellowship of The Ring\MKV Passthrough PGS Subs\Merged File\Encoded\The Lord Of The Rings - The Fellowship Of The Ring.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 2 File size : 7.87 GiB Duration : 3h 48mn Overall bit rate : 4 935 Kbps Movie name : THE_LORD_OF_THE_RINGS__THE_FELLOWSHIP_OF_THE_RING_(EXT.)_-_PT.1.Title1 Encoded date : UTC 2016-02-14T17:20:19Z Writing application : HandBrake 0.10.3 2016012200 Writing library : Lavf55.12.0 / Lavf55.12.0 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : Main@L4 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 3h 48mn Bit rate : 4 197 Kbps Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 800 pixels Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.114 Stream size : 6.69 GiB (85%) Writing library : x264 core 142 r2479 dd79a61 Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=hex / subme=2 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=4 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=10 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=20000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 Default : Yes Forced : No Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Audio ID : 2 Format : AC-3 Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 Mode extension : CM (complete main) Format settings, Endianness : Big Codec ID : A_AC3 Duration : 3h 48mn Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 640 Kbps Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Frame rate : 31.250 fps (1536 spf) Compression mode : Lossy Delay relative to video : -5ms Stream size : 1.02 GiB (13%) Title : Surround Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Text ID : 3 Format : PGS Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No
This file doesn't play with the desired effect either.
Media Info:
So it seems that once I encode to reduce file size the subs stop showing and the LAV splitter is not used for playback.Code:General Unique ID : 220091149518051815190325520690932582746 (0xA59403770A021A2ABC3923D7BCAB895A) Complete name : D:\LOTR\The Lord of The Rings The Fellowship of The Ring\MKV Passthrough PGS Subs\Merged File\Encoded\Remuxed\The Lord Of The Rings - The Fellowship Of The Ring.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 4 / Version 2 File size : 7.87 GiB Duration : 3h 48mn Overall bit rate : 4 934 Kbps Movie name : The Lord Of The Rings - The Fellowship Of The Ring Encoded date : UTC 2016-02-14 22:00:12 / UTC 2016-02-14T17:20:19Z Writing application : mkvmerge v8.8.0 ('Wind at my back') 64bit Writing library : libebml v1.3.3 + libmatroska v1.4.4 / Lavf55.12.0 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : Main@L4 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 3h 48mn Bit rate : 4 196 Kbps Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 800 pixels Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.114 Stream size : 6.69 GiB (85%) Writing library : x264 core 142 r2479 dd79a61 Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=hex / subme=2 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=4 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=10 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=20000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Statistics Tags Issue : mkvmerge v8.8.0 ('Wind at my back') 64bit 2016-02-14 22:00:12 / mkvmerge v8.8.0 ('Wind at my back') 64bit 2016-02-14 22:00:12 / UTC 2016-02-14T17:20:19Z FromStats_BitRate : 4292031 FromStats_Duration : 03:48:16.975000000 FromStats_FrameCount : 328399 FromStats_StreamSize : 7348481059 Audio ID : 2 Format : AC-3 Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 Mode extension : CM (complete main) Format settings, Endianness : Big Codec ID : A_AC3 Duration : 3h 48mn Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 640 Kbps Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Frame rate : 31.250 fps (1536 spf) Compression mode : Lossy Delay relative to video : -5ms Stream size : 1.02 GiB (13%) Title : Surround Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Statistics Tags Issue : mkvmerge v8.8.0 ('Wind at my back') 64bit 2016-02-14 22:00:12 / mkvmerge v8.8.0 ('Wind at my back') 64bit 2016-02-14 22:00:12 / UTC 2016-02-14T17:20:19Z FromStats_BitRate : 640000 FromStats_Duration : 03:48:17.216000000 FromStats_FrameCount : 428038 FromStats_StreamSize : 1095777280 Text ID : 3 Format : PGS Muxing mode : zlib Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs Language : English Default : Yes Forced : Yes Statistics Tags Issue : mkvmerge v8.8.0 ('Wind at my back') 64bit 2016-02-14 22:00:12 / mkvmerge v8.8.0 ('Wind at my back') 64bit 2016-02-14 22:00:12 / UTC 2016-02-14T17:20:19Z FromStats_BitRate : 0 FromStats_Duration : 00:00:00.000000000 FromStats_FrameCount : 0 FromStats_StreamSize : 0
Prior to this testing I have also used DVD Fab to rip to MKV using h264 to encode and it did the same thing.
I'm sure what I'm trying to achieve is possible but I'm so confused about how to achieve it!!Last edited by UKRobster; 14th Feb 2016 at 16:28. Reason: typos
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Resolution? 1920x800 instead of 1920x1080?Originally Posted by UKRobster
Something with overlay?
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My Blu Ray lossless rips in MKV show in mediainfo for subs the same thing as your rips, readings from first MKV, not those zeros, even if I re-encode just video track. Using MKVmerge 7.7.0 , if it ain't broken don't fix it, so I am not upgrading yet, not saying this is the cause, perhaps for new audio codecs old version would not work etc.
That advice about just remuxing was wrong thinking back. You just need to remux it but to use only video track (or encoded audio track as well ), load both MKV's into MKVMerge and from that first MKV use just those subtitles. You can uncheck tracks that you do not want.
I use batch scripts and they are using eac3to, which means everything is properly demuxed and remuxed again. -
From reading this thread https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/363727-Handbrake-confused-why-I-m-ended-up-with-rip...-are-not-1080p It seems that Handbrake will automatically strip the black bars top and bottom and not re-code them. therefore the output file is only 800 rather than 1080. I will try re-encoding and setting the cropping to 'custom' with all values set to '0'Originally Posted by _Al_
I'm trying to get my head around this part:Originally Posted by _Al_
Do you mean to add both files (uncompressed and the first encoded mkv).
Then select the subs and audio from uncompressed & the video from encoded.
Then remux that to a new mkv?
I'll try that later. See what happens. -
Yes, that is what I'd try. Import that encoded MKV first into mkvmerge, uncheck all tracks except video track. Then load that MKV with all original tracks and uncheck just video track.
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It seems as though I'm finally getting there now.
I tried several permutations of using different elements from the different mkv's.
First of all, I tried as you suggested, used the video stream from the encoded file. Then audio, PGS subs & chapters from the uncompressed file.
It did play using LAV splitter, and although the sys tray icons thought the subs were loaded, there were none on screen.
Then tried the same again apart from the PGS subs from the encoded file. Same thing.
I extracted the subs form the mkv to a .sup file. Then converted to an .srt, named it correctly and placed it in the same directory. Still didn't display any subs.
But this process started me thinking.....
So, the next thing I tried was loading a previously ripped file I had created with VOB Subs.
Loaded the uncompressed mkv, the encoded mkv and mkv with VOB subs.
Selected as follows-
Uncompressed: audio & chapters
Encoded: video
VOB Sub mkv: VOB subs
Re-muxed all of that together et viola!!
Played using LAV splitter & subs were present & I was able to turn them on/off using the sys tray icon.
Bit of a complex selection process and I think I can simplify it somewhat. (As I still have the other two LOTR films to do yet).
Also managed to find a section of the film that has elvish speaking in it, to confirm that I did need to be able to turn the subs on/off. As the elvish translation is not hard coded.
Here's the Media Info from the completed file (if anyone is interested lol)
But thanks for all of the input, we got there in the end.
Code:General Unique ID : 212130979924086455703514929133380724049 (0x9F96F0CD92C7D9BEA6B076291FA46551) Complete name : D:\LOTR\The Lord of The Rings The Fellowship of The Ring\MKV Passthrough PGS Subs\Merged File\Encoded\2 files Combined\The Lord Of The Rings - The Fellowship Of The Ring.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 4 / Version 2 File size : 14.4 GiB Duration : 3h 48mn Overall bit rate : 9 041 Kbps Movie name : The Lord Of The Rings - The Fellowship Of The Ring Encoded date : UTC 2016-02-15 23:13:04 Writing application : mkvmerge v8.8.0 ('Wind at my back') 64bit Writing library : libebml v1.3.3 + libmatroska v1.4.4 Video ID : 2 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : Main@L4 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 3h 48mn Bit rate : 4 292 Kbps Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 800 pixels Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.117 Stream size : 6.84 GiB (47%) Writing library : x264 core 142 r2479 dd79a61 Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=hex / subme=2 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=4 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=10 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=20000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 Default : Yes Forced : No Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Audio ID : 1 Format : DTS Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems Format profile : MA / ES Discrete / Core Mode : 16 Format settings, Endianness : Big Codec ID : A_DTS Duration : 3h 48mn Bit rate mode : Variable / Constant / Constant Bit rate : 4 742 Kbps / 1 509 Kbps / 1 509 Kbps Channel(s) : 7 channels / 7 channels / 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: C, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: C, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Frame rate : 93.750 fps (512 spf) Bit depth : 24 bits Compression mode : Lossless / Lossy / Lossy Delay relative to video : -83ms Stream size : 7.56 GiB (52%) Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Text ID : 3 Format : VobSub Muxing mode : zlib Codec ID : S_VOBSUB Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on DVDs Duration : 3h 47mn Bit rate : 3 529 bps Count of elements : 1829 Stream size : 5.75 MiB (0%) Title : The Lord Of The Rings - The Fellowship Of The Ring Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Menu 00:00:00.000 : en:(01)00:00:00:000 00:07:36.789 : en:(02)00:07:36:789 00:10:35.551 : en:(03)00:10:35:551 00:15:39.855 : en:(04)00:15:39:855 00:19:58.488 : en:(05)00:19:58:488 00:25:32.614 : en:(06)00:25:32:614 00:29:57.378 : en:(07)00:29:57:378 00:32:10.678 : en:(08)00:32:10:678 00:34:51.798 : en:(09)00:34:51:798 00:36:18.176 : en:(10)00:36:18:176 00:45:04.159 : en:(11)00:45:04:159 00:46:44.301 : en:(12)00:46:44:301 00:51:21.411 : en:(13)00:51:21:411 00:55:12.434 : en:(14)00:55:12:434 00:57:30.071 : en:(15)00:57:30:071 01:03:31.516 : en:(16)01:03:31:516 01:07:16.115 : en:(17)01:07:16:115 01:08:53.587 : en:(18)01:08:53:587 01:10:35.940 : en:(19)01:10:35:940 01:15:15.385 : en:(20)01:15:15:385 01:17:46.620 : en:(21)01:17:46:620 01:24:11.546 : en:(22)01:24:11:546 01:26:12.500 : en:(23)01:26:12:500 01:29:41.584 : en:(24)01:29:41:584 01:33:14.672 : en:(25)01:33:14:672 01:35:54.081 : en:(26)01:35:54:081 01:37:32.972 : en:(27)01:37:32:972 01:45:42.878 : en:(28)01:45:42.878 01:46:58.745 : en:(29)01:46:58.745 01:48:42.140 : en:(30)01:48:42.140 01:49:59.551 : en:(31)01:49:59.551 01:53:05.361 : en:(32)01:53:05.361 01:57:51.647 : en:(33)01:57:51.647 02:04:16.991 : en:(34)02:04:16.991 02:10:47.339 : en:(35)02:10:47.339 02:20:12.070 : en:(36)02:20:12.070 02:29:53.526 : en:(37)02:29:53.526 02:33:06.176 : en:(38)02:33:06.176 02:40:23.196 : en:(39)02:40:23.196 02:46:03.203 : en:(40)02:46:03.203 02:47:44.596 : en:(41)02:47:44.596 02:53:07.084 : en:(42)02:53:07.084 02:57:59.335 : en:(43)02:57:59.335 03:04:27.097 : en:(44)03:04:27.097 03:11:43.033 : en:(45)03:11:43.033 03:14:25.361 : en:(46)03:14:25.361 03:20:43.573 : en:(47)03:20:43.573 03:28:24.033 : en:(48)03:28:24.033 03:48:17.183 : en:(49)03:48:17.183
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