Hi, I'm hoping you can help me with this. I just bought a 10 episode DVD. Normally, each episode has a VTS file and inside each VTS is the PGC file. This episodic DVD is set up the same way except that inside each VTS file are 3 PGS files that are exactly the same length of time.
The DVD's been remastered. When I play the DVD using my DVD Rom drive, the quality is very poor but it plays great on my DVD player.
I ripped each of the 3 PGC files for the first episode separately to see if the quality is better on one than on another, but it seems as if the quality is split into 3 sections, 1/3 on each PGC file. I tried to get DVD Decrypter to accept the VTS file so that all 3 PGC files would be automatically combined but it can't do it (it was worth a shot).
Have you ever heard of this? Do you know of a program that will combine the 3 PGS files when decrypting each episode?
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I don't know of a programm that will combine these 3 pgc in one during the ripping. The quality is rather subjective, so you cannot say to a programm: "Please, rip only good quality cells!"
I would suggest to use Vobblanker and to replace the bad quality cells with good quality ones. Though it is not easy, I mean require time. -
Thanks for replying Abond.
It's not that I want to choose good cells. 1/3 of the quality is located on each of the 3 PGS files so that 1 of them alone will not have good quality. Each of them have bad quality without the other two.
I want a program that will decrypt the 3 files into 1 file during decrypting, and then convert them to avi using AutoGK. Is there a program that will accept VTS files and combine and decrypt what's inside a VTS file?
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When I play the DVD using my DVD Rom drive, the quality is very poor but it plays great on my DVD player.
Probably because, being TV show episodes, they're encoded as hard telecined interlaced video, already telecined 29.97fps. Or, put another way, they're often shot on film but edited and encoded as video. This will play fine on your interlaced CRT TV set, but play with a peculiar strobing effect on your progressive computer monitor. If you step through it frame by frame, you may see 3 good frames followed by 2 blurred, blended, deinterlaced frames in every 5 frame sequence.
Each of them have bad quality without the other two.
That makes no sense at all.
Decrypt using DVD Decrypter in IFO Mode and let AutoGK handle it. It'll most likely IVTC them and give you back nice clean 23.976fps episodes.
There could possibly be other factors at work. If you can cut and upload a small section, if the suggestions don't work, we can have a look. -
I want a program that will decrypt the 3 files into 1 file during decrypting,
What you have is following (my guess here). PGC1 plays good first third, PGC2 plays good second third and PGC3 play good thirth third. Let say there are 9 cells in each PGC. Firstly play PGC1 cells 1-3 then jump to next PGC cell4, play PGC2 cells 4-6 then jump to next PGC cell7, play cells 7-9. I don't know if such a jumps are legal IFO commands, but this is the way I imaging it to be. If it is the case you need to replace the bad cells in PGC1 (cells 4-9) with the good cells from PGC2(4-6) and good cells from PGC3( 7-9). This you can do with Vobblanker. As I said here the problem is that you need to find which cells with which must be replaced (for each episode!) and after that to set correctly Vobblanker. Then after processing you give the output to AutoGK.
Ah, I have reread the post and just now I get you are converting to avi, so you don't need the menus and such a stuff (firstly I thought you are making new DVD).
I would try to rip each PGC in separate folder, splitting by cells. Then I would try to find the good cells. Then I would add these cells in vstrip (in order) and output as a whole vob (No splitting). Then give this vob to AutoGK. -
It sounds like DVD companies have designed a method to make it almost impossible to save a movie, tv show, etc, to a pc. Your suggestion is a good one but would take a very long time to make a complete 1/2 hr episode, and there are 10 episodes that I'd have run your procedure.
I decrypted the first episode using DVD Decrypter and ran the IFO file through AutoGK. I've attached a small segment of the video. The quality is very poor.
bit%20of%20ozzie%20and%20harriet.avi -
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It sounds like DVD companies have designed a method to make it almost impossible to save a movie, tv show, etc, to a pc.
No.
I meant for you to upload a piece of the unprocessed source vobs, but that's OK. Do you have the AutoGK log for that? It's not bad quality. It's all Quants 2 and 3 with no B-Frames being used. It's about as good as it's going to get deinterlaced and for that resolution. You want better quality, then use a higher resolution. Ozzie And Harriet is, what, 50 years old, and I dare say the source isn't all that good. The DVD versions of the series have all been put out by fly-by-night companies such as Passport Video, Alpha Video, Madacy, and others. They're all lousy. No reputable company has put them out. I expect you have an old CRT TV set. They look so bad on your computer monitor because it has a much higher resolution and shows the flaws better. You can upload a source vob, but I expect the reason the AVI looks so bad is because the source is so bad. -
I don't have the AutoGK log for that episode but I just tried another episode with the same poor quality. This is the log:
[7/5/2006 9:06:09 PM] AutoGK 2.27
[7/5/2006 9:06:09 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[7/5/2006 9:06:09 PM] Job started.
[7/5/2006 9:06:09 PM] Input file: C:\- DVD Rips\Ozzie & Harriet\04 9x13 - Chaperones\VTS_04_0.IFO
[7/5/2006 9:06:09 PM] Output file: C:\- DVD Rips\Ozzie & Harriet\04 9x13 - Chaperones\04 9x13 - Chaperones.avi
[7/5/2006 9:06:09 PM] Output codec: DivX
[7/5/2006 9:06:09 PM] Audio 1: English AC3 6ch
[7/5/2006 9:06:09 PM] Subtitles: none
[7/5/2006 9:06:09 PM] Format: .AVI
[7/5/2006 9:06:09 PM] Target size: 350Mb
[7/5/2006 9:06:09 PM] Standalone support enabled: ESS
[7/5/2006 9:06:09 PM] Started encoding.
[7/5/2006 9:06:09 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[7/5/2006 9:06:59 PM] Processing file: C:\- DVD Rips\Ozzie & Harriet\04 9x13 - Chaperones\VTS_04_PGC_01_1.VOB
[7/5/2006 9:06:59 PM] Source resolution: 720x480
[7/5/2006 9:06:59 PM] Found NTSC source.
[7/5/2006 9:06:59 PM] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[7/5/2006 9:06:59 PM] Color correction enabled.
[7/5/2006 9:06:59 PM] Analyzing source.
[7/5/2006 9:10:15 PM] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[7/5/2006 9:10:15 PM] Output will contain 41432 frames
[7/5/2006 9:10:15 PM] Decoding audio.
[7/5/2006 9:11:48 PM] Normalizing audio.
[7/5/2006 9:11:58 PM] Encoding audio.
[7/5/2006 9:18:45 PM] Audio1 size: 19,967,280 bytes (19.04 Mb)
[7/5/2006 9:18:45 PM] Overhead: 2,675,328 bytes (2.55 Mb)
[7/5/2006 9:18:45 PM] Video size: 344,358,992 bytes (328.41 Mb)
[7/5/2006 9:18:45 PM] Target bitrate is: 1993kbps
[7/5/2006 9:18:45 PM] Running compressibility test.
[7/5/2006 9:24:35 PM] Duration was: 5 minutes 48 seconds
[7/5/2006 9:24:35 PM] Speed was: 5.94 fps.
[7/5/2006 9:24:36 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 20.32
[7/5/2006 9:24:36 PM] Using softer resizer.
[7/5/2006 9:24:36 PM] Chosen resolution is: 384x288 ( AR: 1.33 )
[7/5/2006 9:24:36 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 60.58%
[7/5/2006 9:24:36 PM] Running first pass.
[7/5/2006 10:22:09 PM] Duration was: 57 minutes 33 seconds
[7/5/2006 10:22:09 PM] Speed was: 12.00 fps.
[7/5/2006 10:22:09 PM] Running second pass.
[7/5/2006 11:07:51 PM] Duration was: 45 minutes 41 seconds
[7/5/2006 11:07:51 PM] Speed was: 15.11 fps.
[7/5/2006 11:07:51 PM] Job finished. Total time: 2 hours 1 minute, 41 seconds
================================================== ==
The combined VOB file is only about 653,360k. Divide that by 3 and 1 PGS file is less than 220,000k. All the VOB files from my other DVDs were all between 250M and 750M and I'd create 250M-350M .avi files.
This DVD was digitally remastered and was made by TV Classics with interactive menus and scene indexes, which the other DVDs didn't have. The picture is perfectly clear on my tv. I have a flat screen tv, not CRT. I've got a collection of Ozzie & Harriet episodes and some have good picture quality and others don't, but none of them had 3 PGS files inside each VTC file and none of the ones that had good quality on my tv had poor quality after running thru AutoGK.
The picture is lousy because each VTC file has 3 PGS files and I can use only 1 of the PGS files when I run it through AutoGK. If there was a program that can take a VTC file and create an .avi file out of it, the picture quality would be much better. -
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This DVD was digitally remastered and was made by TV Classics with interactive menus and scene indexes, which the other DVDs didn't have.
Means nothing. It's just hype. Anybody taking his VCR tapes or home movies and transferring them to DVD is also digitally remastering them. This has to be in the public domain where anyone can release them. No company that has access to the original tapes has released any DVDs, unless it's the Harriet Hilliard DVDs, and none of the public domain versions have been restored, as near as I can tell.
I have a flat screen tv, not CRT.
OK, but it's still an interlaced set, as opposed to a progressive HDTV or computer monitor, right? Your monitor is progressive and higher resolution. Your monitor shows the video with more detail than does your TV set, which smooths the heck out of it, making it look better if the source is lousy. Plus, your software player is deinterlacing it, with the accompanying deinterlacing artifacts. AutoGK uses a pretty good deinterlacer, but it's still not going to be as good as watching the original interlaced DVD on the TV set.
The picture is lousy because each VTC file has 3 PGS files and I can use only 1 of the PGS files when I run it through AutoGK. If there was a program that can take a VTC file and create an .avi file out of it, the picture quality would be much better.
The words are ProGram Chain and VideoTS(transport stream?). And, no again, they don't look bad because only one third of the video is being used. It's all contained in the PGC. I'll retire from this and let someone else take over. -
Ok, so that's the best that I'm going to get from this DVD by running a PGC file through AutoGK.
As for PGC and VTS, thanks for correcting me again. . . but they could be called abc and xyz and I wouldn't care . . . that's your forte.
My sole reason for starting this post is to get this question answered. Is there a program(s) that will accept a VTS file and create an .avi file as easily or almost as easily as DVD Decrypter and AutoGK create .avi files? -
You guys need to be a little nicer to people who come here for help. Just because I didn't understand something and needed further explanation and clarification doesn't give you the right to speak down to me. Remember this adage . . . there are no dumb questions, only dumb answers.
Thanks for your answers . . .
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