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  1. Member BrainStorm69's Avatar
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    I also have a Sima Color Corrector (SCC-1), and although it eliminates MV for VCR to VCR recording, for some reason the DVR-220-S still sees the VHS as copy protected when I use just the SCC-1. I think I'll try doing this chain to see if it works/helps.

    VCR-->CT-1-->SCC-1-->DVR

    @trhouse - the jitter is exactly what it it sounds like - text looks like it is vibrating back and forth (or up and down - I can't remember which) when you watch the DVD the DVR-220-S creates of commercial VHS tapes. It is not just wavy - i.e., it is not just a matter of vertical lines in the picture not being straight.
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  2. Personally, I prefer the tests I first saw from gshelley61 which is to capture stills of THX test patterns so the results can be compared to the test patterns with the only difference being the recorder.
    You have to be careful with that method because unless you're using the exact same movie, your results will be different:

    From the THX site:

    "Use THX Optimizer to calibrate the performance of your home theater system so that it produces picture and sound quality equal to the original movie – as the director intended. THX Optimizer software allows the user to optimize the presentation of THX Certified DVD titles on home theater systems. Available only from THX Digital Works, THX Optimizer is a carefully designed set of audio and video test signals embedded on all THX Certified DVD titles released since summer of 2000. The Optimizer test signals are identical to the final reference tests used by filmmakers during the mastering of each release. These signals allow the user to perform a series of audio and video tests and adjust the home system's performance to guarantee the best possible presentation of each movie – and experience each one as the director intended. But best of all is that the signals used are equal to the final reference levels set during the mastering of each individual release. Thus, the system’s performance can be tailored to each specific movie."
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  3. trock,

    I agree. I use the same video ( ICE AGE ) that gshelley61 used. I also found that the choice of image capture software makes a big difference. Sonic CinePlayer was awful. VirtualDubMod suggested by a number of well known contributors here worked much better.

    Brainstorm,

    I was trying to get a better idea of what the jitter looks like. For example, in this letter "I", would the jitter be in the lines that form the letter or is it that the entire letter seems to vibrate back and forth?
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    Originally Posted by trhouse
    Brainstorm,

    I was trying to get a better idea of what the jitter looks like. For example, in this letter "I", would the jitter be in the lines that form the letter or is it that the entire letter seems to vibrate back and forth?
    The entire letter.
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  5. I assume you are using composite input and not S-video. Does the 220 have anything called Line In Noise Reduction. Some units that have that need to have it turned off to avoid jitter under certain conditions.
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    Originally Posted by trhouse
    I assume you are using composite input and not S-video. Does the 220 have anything called Line In Noise Reduction. Some units that have that need to have it turned off to avoid jitter under certain conditions.
    Actually, I'm using the s-video in. The 220 has VNR (video noise reduction) that I believe I've had turned both on and off with no effect on the problem. But I'll try it again to see.
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    To jitter or not..

    @ brainstorm69

    I see your VCR is the JVC S9900U series. i'm sure it's a great VCR, as
    lots here love it. But, I am wondering about your VCR setup. I recall
    making a comment or two, about the proper setup (though based on *MY* VCR)
    and I'm wondering if you are following it, but in your given setup.
    .
    I do realize that (and even though same brand/make) model'wise, there may
    be some slight differences as to proper setup. Anyways.

    I myself, would like to know what these squigglies look like, and *where*
    they are showing up at (ie, during credits; movie text inside video; etc)

    Personally, I believe that it is all MV related. And, adding a TBC is
    not always the answer, and can worsen the situation, though not always.
    I also (in addition to, MV) believe it is VCR related. What might work
    in a previous device-to-device (DTD) setup, may not be best in a new form
    of DTD setup (ie, your 220-S unit) and I think that it may just be that you
    have to re-adjust your VCR (DTD) setups, even it the VCR did produce bad results
    in your prevous DTD setup.
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    In my JVC S-VHS HR-S3910U setup, I use the following:
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    * video calibration:   ON
    * picture control:   AUTO
    * auto timer:         OFF
    * superimpose:         ON
    * auto sp-->ep timer: OFF
    * video stabilizer:   OFF
    .
    .
    * s-VHS mode:          ON
    * av compu-link:       ON
    * rear aux input: S-VIDEO
    Maybe this will help

    EDITED: added below..
    with the above setup, I no longer see the MV related "curling" at
    the top, that I used to see in my VHS movie, "Jeeper's Creepers"
    (though it shows pretty badly on my TV set - go figure) But, my
    ADVC-100 shows a completely CLEAN video - just beautiful.
    .
    Someitimes, "video stablizer" makes things worse.., and sometimes,
    not. It just depends on the device that doing the capturing. And,
    too many cooks, *could* spoil the broth

    -vhelp 3267
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    Time for a little update. I'm not so sure that the recorder was causing the jitter, I think it may have been in the source tape itself. Also, I tried the VCR->CT-1->SCC1->DVR-220 chain and it helped some, but I'm still getting some issues with very fast scene changes and dropped frames. I guess I just need a real stand-alone TBC. igh:
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    Code:
    * video calibration:   ON 
    * picture control:   AUTO 
    * auto timer:         OFF 
    * superimpose:         ON 
    * auto sp-->ep timer: OFF 
    * video stabilizer:   OFF 
    . 
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    * s-VHS mode:          ON 
    * av compu-link:       ON 
    * rear aux input: S-VIDEO
    superimpose: ON is a bad idea. It will say "CALIBRATING" on screen in the middle of a tape. Turn it off when using it as a player for DVD recording.

    For jitter, try another VCR too. Some tapes are just recorded too far off the normal area. Also try EDIT MODE.
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    Originally Posted by lordsmurf
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    superimpose: ON is a bad idea. It will say "CALIBRATING" on screen in the middle of a tape. Turn it off when using it as a player for DVD recording.
    Ditto on that!
    It WILL superimpose the "CALIBRATING" sig at various times
    on your vid recordings!
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    ok. I get the message

    Actually, the reason I use it, is during my tests, and when I need to see
    just how well it is showing its quality, and adding the ability to write
    some text on the screen really helps to serve this purpose. I guess I
    forgot all about it since, but I never had it turn on (audo'wise) in
    any of my captures. Then again, I can't remember looking at all my
    processed projects through out the movie Anyways. Thanks for
    the warning.

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