Mkv format files. What format should I change them to before burning?

[zipsick]

Ok.To Cholla, Sorry if I did not pay good attention to your advice earlier. I think I understood what you were trying to get me to understand now. Are you saying the Makemkv downloads of dvds that are disc image files or mkv files can be burned without being first modified by other programs like AVStoDVD to mpeg2 files and that they will already play on most DVD Players? I will go back and read your #22 post I did not get before. Thank you for not giving up on me. I appreciate your help! I will keep trying. I will check my iso sizes too.

[Alwyn]

@Zipsick, forget AVS2DVD, MKV, MPEG 2. If you simply want to make a direct copy of your DVDs, follow my steps at post #54 to the letter.

Summarised, they are:

1. Rip to ISO with MakeMKV

2. Burn the ISO to a DVD disk with ImgBurn.

That's it.

[cholla]

@zipsick,
Alwyn's post #54 & my post#22 give the same procedure.

DO NOT let the information below confuse you:
When I did the MakeMKV backup from a commercial DVD loaded in my IDE drives the .ISO created was corrupt.
It would NOT open with VLC or in Virtual Clone drive.
The two different rips from my SATA optical drives opened in VLC & Virtual Clone drive.
One of these drives is in an external enclosure & the rip was done via USB.
So if the .ISO you create with MakeMKV backup will open in VLC it will probably burn correctly with ImgBurn.

2. The reason I want you to check the size of the .ISO compared to the size of the commercial DVD is they should be the exact same size.

[zipsick]

I keep replying to this message but it keeps getting deleted when I try to add a couple images. I will try again without the images. I will add them when I get home on my computer latter. I re-read both messages thanks. I downloaded the dvd again this way. I checked the size. It was not the same size as the original dvd. The download was much smaller than the original dvd. The download was a disc image file not a mkv file. I don’t know what I could have done wrong. The instructions were quite simple. Just insert the cane. Choose backup. Choose start.,wait for it to finish and check file size. What now my friends? Will try again to sdd my attachments too another message while I’m out. Just don’t want to delete this one again. Thanks!

[zipsick]

Here are my attachments.

[davexnet]

I've seen in the past that some protected DVD's can obfuscate the file size.
Could be that.

[cholla]

It can be as davenet posted.
The backup .iso is in the correct size range for a commercial movie DVD.
When you open this .iso in VLC does it work correctly?
Meaning does the menu work correctly.
This is what my computer shows for the .iso & my drive:

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[cholla]

This is a short screen capture of me using the Menu of the MKVMake backup .ISO opened in VLC.
It shows the original Menu has the buttons functioning.
The MKVMake backup .ISO you create should do the same.
If it does then it should when written(burned) by ImgBurn.

[zipsick]

VLC opened downloaded file. Only opened to file options non of which were for the actual dvd I wanted downloaded. There were options other Title options available. Where is the actual movie? Movie is Pirates of The Caribbean The Black Pearl.

[Alwyn]

Your 6.8GB ISO looks about the right size. A similar length DVD I have here is 6.9GB.

The image above looks like it is from one of the menu VOBs; are you sure you're just right-clicking the ISO and choosing "Play with VLC Media Player"? You can also just double-click the ISO to open the DVD in VLC and it'll (should! ) display the main menu.

Otherwise, I'm stumped.

[cholla]

I do not have Pirates_of_the_Caribbean:_The_Curse_of_the_Black_P earl.
The site below has several pictures of the menus on the two discs in this set.
https://dvd.fandom.com/wiki/Pirates_of_the_Caribbean:_The_Curse_of_the_Black_Pearl?fil...rates2Menu.png
It calls the menu you posted the "Pirates2Menu".
It looks like these dvds have several menus.
Disc one says 143 minutes.
That should be the one you ripped.
I believe this is the correct menu:

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[zipsick]

Hello Cholla. This is for you. I am starting over wanting to try and burn a dvd I downloaded. It is the exact same size as the original dvd and plays perfectly on VlC with sound. I went back to your instructions in your your post#51. I opened ImgBurn, clicked on write file to disc then checked the box next to Test Mode. The write speed said 1x. I changed it to 2.4x. Then you say “This is how the properties from an iso looks on my is. Then you show me a picture of what it should look like. Only you don’t explain to me what steps you took to get there. So from the picture before this one. Where we just checked the box next to test mode screen, how did you get to the page where it shows Test iso Properties? I am ready to do this. We had some very late snow. Thought we might not get any this year. So no internet tonight. Some reason nobody else’s phone is working but mine is. So I get to post on my phone. Hopefully I can try and burn in the morning. Thanks!

[cholla]

I opened ImgBurn, clicked on write file to disc then checked the box next to Test Mode.

To make sure you know this. Test Mode is just that it will NOT write to your disc.
It is to show if there would be a problem writing to the disc.
To do an actual write(burn) you need to uncheck the box.

The write speed said 1x. I changed it to 2.4x.

The correct speed for a disc is usually half the rated speed.
The Verbatim DL you are using is 8x so the write should be set to 4x.

Then you say “This is how the properties from an iso looks on my is. Then you show me a picture of what it should look like. Only you don’t explain to me what steps you took to get there.

I believe you had a typo.
I posted:

This is how the Properties from an .ISO looks on my OS.

I looked this up for Windows 11 as I'm using Windows 7.
I believe the Windows 11 icon for "Computer" is "This PC".
Open that & it should have Windows Explorer with all your drives.
Have the commercial DVD in your drive.
Right click on that drive & select "Properties".
That should give you the Properties window.

Once you have written the DVD DL check it the same way.

For the snow.
We are supposed to get snow Saturday.
I have cable internet & I have never had snow knock it out.

[zipsick]

Hello. I understand the test mode does not write. I understand how to set the test mode up. I do not understand hoe to start the test. I see to set the write speed to 4 but in your picture in post #51 it shows a write speed of 2.4. Confused a bit. Also still confused in post #51 how you got to picture showing properties. Please explain how to start test mode and how to get to properties page. thanks so much. I'm getting close. I am on WIFI with a satellite dish. Snow on dish disrupts signal.

[cholla]

I do not understand how to start the test.Please explain how to start test mode

You need to have the DVD DL blank in the optical drive.
I'm out of DVD DLs so I will be using a DVD+RW SL blank.
The write speed will be set at 1x because this disc is rated at 2.4x.
For the DVD DL disc you are using the correct write speed is 4x.

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how to get to properties page.

I'm not sure on Windows 11.
This is how on Windows 7:
Open Windows Explorer.
Right click on the PIONEER:BD-RW BDR-XS07U.
Select Properties.
With The Pirates DVD in it.That will show the size.
The blank DVD DL will show zero size.
When you Write it (not the Test Write) it should be the same size as the .ISO or the commercial DVD.

[zipsick]

Ok I set it up as you said but when I hit start it said Test Mode might not be suported by the current media )DVD+R DL). Data COULD actually be written to the disc. Would you like to continue anyway? Do I choose yes or no?

[cholla]

Before I say to select Yes.
Does the .ISO size match the commercial DVD size ?

[zipsick]

Hello. I just double checked. They are both exactly 3.94 GB. I really appreciate your advice. If we mess up a few discs figuring this out it will be all on me. I will never hold you you to any mistakes made along the way. You are Great taking your time out helping me! Thanks!

[cholla]

@zipsick,
The 3.94GB size is not large enough for this movie.
I believe that might be correct for disc 2 of this set.
That is a "Special Features"disc.
If I read this right Alwyn has the Pirates of the Caribbean:The Curse of the Black Pearl DVD.
He posted the size as 6.9GB. He can correct me if I got this wrong.

[zipsick]

Darn. Just replied now its gone. Will start over. The Movie is not the Pirate Movie I'm Trying to burn anymore. Its called The Secrets of Roan Inish. When I check its size in the drive its 3.94 GB and the download size is also 3.94 GB. See attached. Movie is much smaller than Pirate movie but this is what it shows. Is it good to Go?

[cholla]

It looks good to me.
You can burn this to a DVD SL disc.
No need to waste a more expensive DL.

The one check more you can make is will the SECRETSOFROANIRISHLB.iso open in VLC ?
If it will. Does the menu work?
If that goes as expected you should be ready to go.

There will be no layer break for this single layer burn.

[zipsick]

Hello. It does play in VLC. I don’t have any SL discs only DL discs. Is this ok to burn in DL discs?

[cholla]

Hello. It does play in VLC. I don’t have any SL discs only DL discs. Is this ok to burn in DL discs?

It should work but I have never tried to burn a SL size .iso to a DL DVD.

When the Layer Break window pops up select the "Ignore Layer Break Options" button.
At least that is what I believe you should do.
I believe this will write everything to a single layer on the dual layer DVD.

[zipsick]

What determines if you should use a single or double layer disc? is it the size you want to burn?. At what size do you go from a SL to a DL disc?
I read that the DL were best for burning so I bought them. I guess I should buy some SL discs also?
What are layer breaks. I read a little on this somewhere. More options if this ever comes up. will let you know if this ever comes up. Thanks so much. Going to try to bun it now. Thanks!

[zipsick]

Sorry. More Stuff. I am still in Test mode. I selected continue. Now it says Tis. attaching screenshot. Should I have unchecked Test Mode? I did not. So do I revert to
VOBU/ECC search or hit Cancel?

[davexnet]

You're better off getting regular single layer disks then you wont have to worry about all this other stuff

[cholla]

At what size do you go from a SL to a DL disc?

Up to 4.35GB is SL.
Above 4.35GB DL.
Some say 4.37GB but I have found 4.35GB to be correct most of the time.

Try checking the "Option Seamless" box
Leave ImgBurn in Teat Mode until you try Seamless.

You asked What are Later breaks.
This is the place in the ISO file being burned that it begine to write the the second later of the DL DVD.

I agree with davexnet SL would be easier,
But you have DL & want to give them a try.

[zipsick]

I am still in this mode.... this screen is still open. I clicked the seamless option but the OK Button Did not Highlight. I can't continue at this point. I am stuck on this screen. Something else needs to be done?? Can you see in the attachments the ok button is grayed out? I can not click on it to continue the Test Mode. Do I check the box for the option REVERT to VOBU/ECC Search? I don't know how to get the OK button highlighted to continue.

[cholla]

Try the Cancel button & if that works Close ImbBurn .
Then open the .iso again.
When the layer break pop up opens try seamless again & see if the OK is useable.
I will try to find something about the REVERT to VOBU/ECC,
As I posted I have never tried to write a single layer size .iso to a DL disc.

I will see if I can get some information on doing this from the ImgBurn forum but it could take a while

[zipsick]

ok. I hit cancel. Closed the program and started over. It was the same thing. I opened the iso. hit test and start. the same message came up about the layers with the ok button grayed out. i am ordering SL discs. I read The Verbatim were the best. Verbatim DVD-R, Verbatim DVD+R. I read the Plus were better. do you agree? I was just reading about burning to SL discs they must be finalized. Will my burner automatically do this or is this something I will have to do?