44 mins on svcd, how??

[Spence]

I've got several svcd's ripped from dvd or converted divx files that have a playback of 44 mins. These were passed on to me by a friend who knows nothing about encoding and burning at all. (So he is a useless source of information!!) Whenever i try to rip or convert to svcd myself i can only get about 35 mins playback on one cdr. What do i need to do to get 44 mins on a disc??
i rip with smartripper, frameserve with dvd2avi and encode with tmpgenc (2 pass vbr svcd) and burn with nero 5.5.9

[adam]

If you click on tools to your left there is a very good java bitrate calculator. Input the playtime of your movie, the bitrate you want to use for your audio (I recommend 192-224), and the number of cds you want to use. It will tell you the correct avg bitrate.

In TMPGenc set the min to about 300, the max to about 2500, and set the avg to whatever the bitrate calculator spit out.

[Aznboi_nz]

actually its quite easy to put up to 60 mins of video onto svcd and still keep quality

[fantomlord]

sounds like you're using CBR. you need to use VBR to get more than 35 minutes on a CDR. That's where the bitrate calculators will come in to play

[ABAB]

Can't you use CBR, source range to 44m, 50m, 55m or whatever and then just alter the bitrate at disc selection screen to enable you to fit your file on the disc?.
Or am I being stupid and there is a better way?.

[kitty]

You can always use one of kwags KSVCD templates tro squeeze more onto a CDR if lowering the bitrate using standard SVCD parameters produces a problem picture. Or you can go to VCD or XVCD.

[ghoster]

well how i do it is i make sure the file size is under 700 megs for a 80 minute cd with TMPGEnc then just encode the movie. then i burn with nero. i just click on compilation info under file and uncheck create standard compliant cd. now all i do is burn. they all have played fine.

[VidGuy]

Can't you use CBR, source range to 44m, 50m, 55m or whatever and then just alter the bitrate at disc selection screen to enable you to fit your file on the disc?.
Or am I being stupid and there is a better way?.

Of course you can just use CBR set to the result the bitrate calculator spits out. But why would you? Use fewer bits for simple scenes and more bits for more complex scenes - that's what VBR is all about....

[Nelson37]

Spence - It is just bitrate that determines filesize, use 796 Mb per disk, (unless you want to overburn), and set your bitrate for how ever many minutes you need to fit.

Using CBR makes it simple, but for more time on disk you must use VBR - multipass or CQ, many variables and templates to choose from.

[ABAB]

VidGuy, of course your'e right.
I just got into the groove of using CBR and getting good quality encodes. But better is always better. Am I right in saying the only difference here is encoding time?.
Can you tell me/us what I would have to use as settings in VBR to get a bitrate close to my SVCD bitrates (prolly between 2100 and 2520).
Hope I'm not hijacking a post here but Ut's all relevant eh?

Thx

[fantomlord]

VidGuy, of course your'e right.
I just got into the groove of using CBR and getting good quality encodes. But better is always better. Am I right in saying the only difference here is encoding time?.
Can you tell me/us what I would have to use as settings in VBR to get a bitrate close to my SVCD bitrates (prolly between 2100 and 2520).
Hope I'm not hijacking a post here but Ut's all relevant eh?

Thx

If you click on tools to your left there is a very good java bitrate calculator. Input the playtime of your movie, the bitrate you want to use for your audio (I recommend 192-224), and the number of cds you want to use. It will tell you the correct avg bitrate.

In TMPGenc set the min to about 300, the max to about 2500, and set the avg to whatever the bitrate calculator spit out.

[ABAB]

Thx