DVD2SVCD apparently does not like SVCD's

[Kingnog]

I've posted this question in another forum, but nobody was of much help So, here it goes:

I can make SVCD's using SmartRipper, DVD2AVI, and TMPEG. However, I discovered that DVD2SVCD can do the same and much more with just one click! BUT! Doing everything I could possibly think of (and with both TMPEG and CCE as the encoder), the result is an SVCD that plays fine on my computer, but on my standalone DVD player skips video and sound every once in a while.

The farther into the movie I get (on each disc), the more often it skips a frame of video and the sound (basically, at the beginning of the disc it is fine, but near the end it goes absolutely mental).

This isnt from the disc type, I know that much...and yes, I pretty much have a crappy DVD player...but how come it turns out OK when I dont use DVD2SVCD, but it messes up when I do?

So....its up to you "smart" people (hehe) to figure this out, if you can!

[YukonXL]

What dvd player do you have. Sounds maybe you have your bitrate to high for your particular player, or using really really cheap cd's. I had to turn my max bitrate down to 2500 because any higher and It'd look terrible.

[hwoodwar]

Are you burning the image to CD at the same speed (presumably 4x or 8x) that you burned the previous SVCDs that worked fine? Are you maybe using 74min CDs and is it encoding for 80min CDs?

[Kingnog]

Well, I'm using 700mb cd-r's (yes, they're cheap (free!), but I got the same problem with Sony and Memorex and imation, also!). Im making it split the files as if I have an 800mb cd, but only because it fits on a 700mb cd without overburn, since its SVCD. But I am 99.9999999999% sure that this isnt the problem, since I did the same when I used tmpeg to burn them (still, a chance I may be wrong!). And about the max bitrate thing, I didnt really go higher than 2300. So...heeelp! im sick and tired of this! Ive been having this problem for so long (and apparently im the only one in the world)

P.S. My dvd player is by DMTech...some no-name brand (even tho it has a name!)

[crowdx38]

Hi,
I have switched to DVD2SVCD recently also and one thing I notice is that the audio option can be left at 48000 rather than standard 44100, for some players this can cause a lot of problems.
Also if you burn at high speed then that also will cause what you are talking about on some DVD players, I had that problem with an encode which I burned too fast, it was fine at the beginning and the end but in the middle of each cd it was freezing and skipping frames, I re-burned it at a slower speed and it played perfect.
Hope this helps
Patrick

[Kingnog]

Well, the slow-burning speed with nero didn't change anything. Im still getting the problem. Also, aren't DVD's 48000 audio, anyway? So shouldnt it work with SVCD's without changing it to 44100?

[bloodsmurf]

I have the same problem as Kingnog. When i use the cd image provided by DVD2SVCD, i have playback problems, mostly near the end of the cd (freeze, pixelate, skip, etc) But if i burn only the mpeg file provided by bbmpg in the process (bbmpg_muxed_filexx.mpg) with nero everything is ok, ( my standalone sometimes has difficulty to provide the timer bt that happens sometimes i dont know why, playback goes through though).

Maybe my standalone DVD has problems with some part fo the final image file (chapters, subs, fileinfo etc) or with the image itself.

I have a RCA5240p, that has yet to refuse anything i throw in it.Its actually the 2nd time i have any problems with it and its while reading SVCDs made with DVD2SVCD (the other time was with VCDs not encoded at 29.975fps)

Whats your DVD player kingnnog? And does anyone have any clue on the causes of this or details of what<s in the image file provided by DVD2SVCD?

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[Timoleon]

Are you running the latest version DVD2SVCD 1.1.0 build 1C? Also, are you allowing DVD2SVCD use its internal ripping routines, or are you ripping the files out with SmartRipper first and then pointing DVD2SVCD to these ripped files? Whichever one you are doing --- try the other one.

Other things --- CCE 2.50 seems to be most stable. If you are using TMPEnc, try CCE; conversely, if you are using CCE, try TPMEnc. Good luck!! I use both the DVD2SVCD automatic method and the SmartRipper -> DVD2AVI -> TMPEnc method depending on my mood, and I've had good success.

[Timoleon]

forgot --- another thing to try is to change you burning program. If you are burning with Nero and having the problem, try VCDEasy instead --- and vice versa.

Good Luck :P

[Kingnog]

another thing to try is to change you burning program. If you are burning with Nero and having the problem, try VCDEasy instead --- and vice versa.

Well, this isnt the problem since SVCDs created without DVD2SVCD are burned with Nero and they're fine...

Are you running the latest version DVD2SVCD 1.1.0 build 1C?

Yes.

If you are using TMPEnc, try CCE; conversely, if you are using CCE, try TPMEnc

I did...no difference

Bloodsmurf...

But if i burn only the mpeg file provided by bbmpg in the process (bbmpg_muxed_filexx.mpg) with nero everything is ok

I also tried that before you posted this.....lol....it kind-of fixes the problem, but then i dont have chapters!!! Which is very annoying...!

Whats your DVD player Kingnog?

Some cheap brand...DMtech (but it playsback more things than sony ones do! and it was only 60 dollars)

[markc32]

Firstly SVCD is not compliant with 48khz audio - only CVD is!

It might work - but in your player it obviously does not!

It may be system instability at your end. Tell us your PC spec. - it may throw light on things. Make sure SVCDs r burnt at 29.97fps not NTSC film as they r not compliant. NTSC film svcd plays in mine but they r jerky.

I suggest u learn via DVDx then progress to DVD2SVCD as it isn't the easiest for beginners. I even get cvd multipass vbr to work now. It takes patience!

8)

[Kingnog]

#0: LOL! I am most definitely NOT a beginner...the only reason i posted in the newb section was because nobody was replying in the other section! Sheesh....now that thats over:

#1: My PC is not the problem-o. Its a pent 4 1.6ghz with 256 ram...i think that says enough...

#2: I used to use DVDx, but with certain movies encoded as SVCD it creates annoying popping sounds in the audio every 2 seconds (which gets REALLY annoying, REALLY fast)

#3: hmmm...that got me nowhere

[vitualis]

...the result is an SVCD that plays fine on my computer, but on my standalone DVD player skips video and sound every once in a while.

The farther into the movie I get (on each disc), the more often it skips a frame of video and the sound (basically, at the beginning of the disc it is fine, but near the end it goes absolutely mental).

Actually, this behaviour is actually suggestive that your DVD player is having difficulty reading the data off your CD. It has been described many times. Discs tend to be more difficult to read towards the periphery of the disc and if the drive is having a difficult time correctly reading sectors to begin with, it can result with increasing skips/errors as you progress through the film.

I have a number of suggestions to test this out.

(1) Burn an audio CD on the same media type and listen to it all the way through. Are there any skips/etc.?
(2) Does your SVCD play properly on any other machine?
(3) Have you tried burning the same disc onto different brands of CD-R media? CD-RW often works better in these cases...

BTW, neither SVCD or CVD support 48 kHz audio. Just because a DVD player can play 48 kHz audio for DVDs doesn't mean a thing for VCDs or SVCDs. A lot of DVD players can play MP3 as well, but basically none can play MP3 audio on a VCD.

Although many SVCD capable DVD players can play 48 kHz audio on a S/VCD, this is far from universal. I suggest that you use standard 44.1kHz audio -- if anything, to cut out one other variable that can be causing the problems.

Regards.