PUTTING OLD VCD MOVIES ONTO DVD-R!

[raven2k2]

HI I NEED HELP EVERYTIME I FOLLOW THE GUIDE ON HOW TO PUT VCDS ONTO DVD-R'S, I HAVE PROBLEMS WHEN I IMPORT THE MOVIE INTO SPRUCEUP IT SAYS, INVALID FRAME RATE, I RIPPED THE DAT FILE FROM THE CD LIKE THE GUIDE SAID USING TMPGENC DEMULTIPLEX AND CONVERTED THE AUDIO TO THE PROPER KHZ, BUT WHEN I'M READY TO ADD THE MOVIE TO SPRUCEUP IT WON'T LET ME CUZ THE FRAMERATE IS INVALID IT SAYS! THE MOVIE WAS DONE AT 23.97 IS THAT WHY IT WON'T WORK, MUST IT BE 29.97 AND IF SO HOW DO I CREATE VCD'S USING 29 FPS! THANKS!

[bugster]

First off, please dont shout in these forums, turn off caps lock when typing. Shouting (all caps) is considered rude.

Secondly, if your movie is 23.97fps, use pulldown.exe (tools<----) to apply the 3:2 pulldown flags so that spruce will accept it as a 29.97fps movie.

Hope this helps

[raven2k2]

your right i'm sorry for shouting, do you know where i can obtain pulldown.exe or should it use pulldown 3:2 from within tmpgenc, thanks!

[AntnyMD]

If your VCD movies are 23.976 fps, these are NTSC film discs and will not be accepted by any DVD authoring software, as 23.976 is not a valid framerate for DVD. Furthermore, since these are VCD movies (as opposed to SVCD movies), pulldown.exe will not work for you. It only works on MPEG-2 streams.

[raven2k2]

so if my vcd were 29.97 would it be accepted into a dvd authoring software?

[bugster]

pulldown.exe can be found by following links in the tools section of this site, or if you are really lazy go straight to the software section of www.doom9.org. However, if as AntnyMD says it only works on mpeg2 streams it wont help you for VCD's. I didnt realise that was the case as I only use it for DVD and SVCD stuff myself. In that case I am not sure how to persuade DVD authoring software to accept your VCD's. I would guess that something that changes the header info to a valid value would do the job. I am sure there is a prog mentioned in tools that will do this but cant remember the name at the mo. If you can find the right tool the procedure would be something like this.

Set the FR info in the file header to 25 or 29.97 fps (probably 29.97 in your case as that is NTSC and would match the resolution you have). Import into spruce and author. Save your project. Close Spruce. Change the header back to the original value. Open your spruce project again and create your DVD. I don't think spruce checks the validity of the file once it has been imported the 1st time so this should work. If your DVD player can cope it should apply 3:2 pulldown on playback, but no guarantees there. Only thing you can do is try it and see.

Only other option is re-encoding as SVCD or even DVD standard but this seems like a lot of work just to put a few VCD's on to a DVD-r!

[AntnyMD]

so if my vcd were 29.97 would it be accepted into a dvd authoring software?

Yes, in theory. My DVD authorware (Apple DVD Studio Pro) dislikes MPEG-1 video of any bitrate. Although it sees it as a valid video file (as long as it was encoded with closed GOPs), when I try to preview a title containing MPEG-1 video, the video does not appear indicating a disc would be wasted if I proceeded to author the DVD. For $999 you'd think I'd have access to the MPEG-1 portion of the DVD spec!