VLC and VIDEO_TS files

[vhwul62]

Hi there,
VLC plays VIDEO_TS folder alright.
No problem.
Except once I want to skip a little further, then is crashes.
See attachment.

Any ideas?

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[hech54]

What is the purpose of the attached WMV video?

[DB83]

What is the purpose of the attached WMV video?

It's a screen-capture of the issue.

Is the .TS on your HDD or straight from the DVD ?

Either way if the dvd is not authored for seeking then there is no where for the seek to go.

[roma_turok]

Try play on MPC-HC by File -> Open DVD
much better from VLC

[vhwul62]

Many Thanks.

Tried MPC-HC but got the same issue.
It will play VIDEO_TS (.vob, .ifo) nicely, same as VLC.
It will do so the entire movie.
No problem.

However, I should not 'skip' forward, e.g. to a next scene: then both players will crash.
VLC quits
MPC stops and freezes

Note, this only counts for DVD stuff, so with .mkv or .avi - no problem skipping thru the scenes.

Guess I have to accept that, but just wondered as to whether others are facing similar things.

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[vhwul62]

What is the purpose of the attached WMV video?

It's a screen-capture of the issue.

Is the .TS on your HDD or straight from the DVD ?

Either way if the dvd is not authored for seeking then there is no where for the seek to go.

It is from HDD.

as for 'authored for seeking' - okay - well, that is something I am not familiar with, am far, far from an expert...

If I play the DVD from external USB HDD, connected to my old-fashioned media player in the living room (i.e. on TV)
then skipping to the next scene is no problem.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback.

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[usually_quiet]

Maybe defective DVD authoring is causing your problem, but it doesn't seem like it was something that was done intentionally.

There are two techniques used to deliberately prevent someone from skipping through part of a DVD. Both are applied during authoring. One technique is to make skipping a prohibited user operation. The other technique is to omit navigation commands that would tell the player where to go next when someone presses the skip button. If your problem occurs during the movie itself, it seems unlikely that the cause is either of these things. Such methods are normally reserved for advertisements or anti-piracy warnings. Attempting a prohibited a user operation wouldn't crash the player. I don't think I have encountered the other method, but I wouldn't expect it to crash the player either.

[theewizard]

Isn't chapter/scene info contained in the Ifo files
You have to play the video_ts folder, VLC has to open and play from the DVD menu to have access to chapter info to seek forward
Directly playing a vob is not going to work aka allow chapter seeking with the next button, with any player

[usually_quiet]

Isn't chapter/scene info contained in the Ifo files
You have to play the video_ts folder, VLC has to open and play from the DVD menu to have access to chapter info to seek forward
Directly playing a vob is not going to work aka allow chapter seeking with the next button, with any player

As usual, you either did not bother to read the entire thread before jumping in, or did not understand what you read. The OP is not just playing VOBs.

The OP wrote: "It will play VIDEO_TS (.vob, .ifo) nicely, same as VLC."

[theewizard]

As usual, you Jump with out consideration
He did not say he used play folder option in vlc
He said it will play the vob and Ifo files
If he did not choose the correct file he will have problems
His post sounds like he is choosing individual files to play then wondering why the seek to next chapter does not work

You read what he says as one thing
I read it as something else
We can not read minds
Either interpretation could be the correct one
You just like to jump on people

[usually_quiet]

As usual, you Jump with out consideration
He did not say he used play folder option in vlc
He said it will play the vob and Ifo files
If he did not choose the correct file he will have problems
His post sounds like he is choosing individual files to play then wondering why the seek to next chapter does not work

He didn't say he's playing VOBs by themselves. He said in the very first post "VLC plays VIDEO_TS folder alright.", so he's using the folder option, as one normally does when using VLC or MPC-HC to play DVD files and folders stored on the PC. Nobody who has used these two programs to play DVD files and folders stored on a PC should need to read minds to interpret "plays VIDEO_TS folder alright." correctly.

Clearly you don't understand what you read much of the time.

[hello_hello]

It is from HDD.

If I play the DVD from external USB HDD, connected to my old-fashioned media player in the living room (i.e. on TV)
then skipping to the next scene is no problem.

One scenario you I don't think you've covered is opening the disc with VLC or MPC-HC. Can they navigate? I'm wondering if maybe something happened when the DVD was ripped to your hard drive, and for some reason the old media player isn't bothered by it. Is it just one ripped DVD that's the problem or is it every ripped DVD? If it's the latter, what ripping software do you use?

LOL. I see usually_quiet is still obsessing about ignoring me with every post, totally oblivious to the contradiction. And arguing about something irrelevant again. The OP isn't using a skip function to jump from one chapter to the next, just the navigation bar to skip a little further forward in time. You can do that even when opening vob files directly, although it appears the OP is opening the "full DVD".

[theewizard]

If I play the DVD from external USB HDD, connected to my old-fashioned media player in the living room (i.e. on TV)
then skipping to the next scene is no problem.

do you mean play the DISC
or do you mean
play the dvd "folder" on the HHD
or play an ISO disc image file

[vhwul62]

Just for good order's sake, say, the DVD on HDD is titled SomeDVD
with a subfolder VIDEO_TS (that includes the .vob, .ifo. .bup files)
then I rightclick on SomeDVD and play the video (or alternatively I might rightclick the VIDEO_TS folder and play it).
It is not an .ISO but all the different files, you know.

Anyway, I also downloaded JRiver Media Center 22.0.32
(in the past I used this program to maintain my music library, but didn't use it anymore, I stopped upgrading at v20)
installed it and played the DVD. Skipped many times forward, backward, skipped almost to the end and the back to beginning,
clicked on fast forward, jumped all over the video for a dozen times at least. I could not make it crash. It does not .. respond
in a weird way (like distortions, or slow responses, any of such matters).

Obviously this is not freeware. Also I am not sure as to whether it support playback using the context menu which is very handy,
instead of click-click-browse-click browse ... stuff.

Looked at PowerDVD - but I cannot run it in VM and it isn't really cheap, every with the end of year actions.
WinDVD 12? Can't find a trial.

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later, found WinDVD 11 but it is a no-go in VM either, sadly enough.


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[DB83]

I may be wrong but it is only your last post that your mention 'VM'.

Whilst that might not be the issue with VLC and other players it could well be.

As Confucious would say "Doctor can only give a full diagnosis when he knows all the symtons"

[usually_quiet]

I have run Windows 10 64-bit and Windows 8.1 32-bit using VMs on my Haswell i5, and the VM seems a little more sluggish than running Windows natively. I would not be surprised if the problem was caused by using a VM in combination with the particular player software mentioned. There is a good selection of other media player software listed in VideoHelp's software section that can play DVDs https://www.videohelp.com/software/sections/video-players