HD PVR 2 - Issues after recording for 30min+

[kkiller23]

I'm having issues while recording for longer then 30min. The video will get jerky and then my whole PC will start getting jerky and slow, yet my PC is using like 7% CPU and 20% ram only.

I tried moving the output recording to another HDD just incase the writing and the OS etc was too much for my OS hard drive, but it doesn't fix it. I also tried disabling my Anti-Virus in case it scanning the output file was causing issues, but didn't help at all.

Any ideas what might help me with this issue?

[jman98]

The HD PVR 2 should be using a chip inside the device to do hardware encoding, so what you see with your CPU and memory usage is to be expected because the device isn't using them. Maybe you should describe better your set up - how it's connected, what exactly your video source is, the bitrate you're using and the software you're using to record.

[usually_quiet]

I'm having issues while recording for longer then 30min. The video will get jerky and then my whole PC will start getting jerky and slow, yet my PC is using like 7% CPU and 20% ram only.

I tried moving the output recording to another HDD just incase the writing and the OS etc was too much for my OS hard drive, but it doesn't fix it. I also tried disabling my Anti-Virus in case it scanning the output file was causing issues, but didn't help at all.

Any ideas what might help me with this issue?

You wrote that you have an i5 2500k @4.1ghz, a GTX 570 and 8 GB of RAM, so your system is more than adequate for the HD-PVR 2 and its software.

Are you are using WinTV 7, or Arcsoft Showbiz and viewing as you record? I have experienced some weird transient video stuttering and audio distortions using them to watch as I was recording with the Hauppauge Colossus. I suspect the problem has to do with Hauppauge's and Arcsoft's video decoders or audio decoders, but need to investigate further.

[johns0]

Reset your cpu speed to default and see if that helps,sometimes overclocking will throttle your system.

[usually_quiet]

Last night I recorded an hour-long show with Arcsoft Showbiz as I watched it in the program's display and didn't see any stuttering or hear any audio distortions. That has never happened since I started using the Colossus. I'll have to do more recording to be sure the problem is gone, although if it is gone, I'm not sure why. The only thing I can think of is that it has to do with installing XBMC last week to try it out with NextPVR as the TV back end. Maybe XBMC installed a DirectShow filter that improved the situation for the other program.

XBMC didn't have the problem of transient video stuttering and audio distortion, although it has a different issue. XBMC buffers now and then, like one would see when watching a video on the Internet when the connection is a little bit too slow.

[kkiller23]

I was just using the Hauppauge Capture software. I think it might have just been my Anti Virus. It turned itself back on some how even though i turned it off till next reboot.


Now i just have to figure out this IR blaster that will won't work for the life of me. Does anyone have a video for setting it up besides the one on the Hauppauge YouTube channel? I spent like 2 hours last night trying to get the IR blaster working WinTV with no luck.

I even tried to program it myself, but it just kept telling me "LearnKey(1) failed"

I managed to get Power and enter to work, but the numbers on my remote just don't seem to want to work.


Edit: I got all the numbers working besides 1, 2 and 3

I add them and it says that they added them, but when i try to go to a channel with one of them numbers it doesn't work.

let's say i'm trying to go to channel 38

If i click on that channel it will load to it, but when it puts in the numbers to the TV box. It only does 08 instead of 038.

I don't get why it's doing this. I added numbers 1, 2, 3 like 5 times now and it still doesn't put them into the TV box.

[usually_quiet]

I have to confess that I never set up my Colossus' IR blaster. I already had 2 other ways to change channels at my disposal, one of which is an MCE IR blaster. I did set up the MCE IR blaster for Windows Media Center to use with a different Hauppauge capture device. One thing I tried was "teaching" Windows Media Center the remote codes because I did not find my cable box in their list of cable boxes with known remote codes. It was not a fun thing to do and did not work very well. I found another way to approach the problem rather than teaching the software manually. Some cable providers, maybe most, use the same remote with all their boxes. I selected one of the other cable boxes used by my provider and that worked.

I reviewed the documentation for the IR blaster setup in WinTV 7. It looks like here is a list of cable boxes or manufacturers to choose from at some point in the process. Was your Time Warner Samsung model included in the list? If not, maybe the codes for another box will work. Here is a list of cable boxes and DVRs used by Time Warner.

[kkiller23]

I have to confess that I never set up my Colossus' IR blaster. I already had 2 other ways to change channels at my disposal, one of which is an MCE IR blaster. I did set up the MCE IR blaster for Windows Media Center to use with a different Hauppauge capture device. One thing I tried was "teaching" Windows Media Center the remote codes because I did not find my cable box in their list of cable boxes with known remote codes. It was not a fun thing to do and did not work very well. I found another way to approach the problem rather than teaching the software manually. Some cable providers, maybe most, use the same remote with all their boxes. I selected one of the other cable boxes used by my provider and that worked.

I reviewed the documentation for the IR blaster setup in WinTV 7. It looks like here is a list of cable boxes to choose from at some point in the process. Was your Time Warner Samsung model included in the list? If not, maybe the codes for another box will work. Here is a list of cable boxes and DVRs used by Time Warner.

I think i finally got it after trying every brand even close to the model of my TV box.

I have to say that i'm kind of disappointed in the quality of WinTV recorded footage. It's no where near as nice as using the Hauppauge Capture software. Does WinTV limit a 8k bitrate? I can't seem to get it over 8k and i don't see any settings to control quality of the recordings.

[usually_quiet]

I have to confess that I never set up my Colossus' IR blaster. I already had 2 other ways to change channels at my disposal, one of which is an MCE IR blaster. I did set up the MCE IR blaster for Windows Media Center to use with a different Hauppauge capture device. One thing I tried was "teaching" Windows Media Center the remote codes because I did not find my cable box in their list of cable boxes with known remote codes. It was not a fun thing to do and did not work very well. I found another way to approach the problem rather than teaching the software manually. Some cable providers, maybe most, use the same remote with all their boxes. I selected one of the other cable boxes used by my provider and that worked.

I reviewed the documentation for the IR blaster setup in WinTV 7. It looks like here is a list of cable boxes to choose from at some point in the process. Was your Time Warner Samsung model included in the list? If not, maybe the codes for another box will work. Here is a list of cable boxes and DVRs used by Time Warner.

I think i finally got it after trying every brand even close to the model of my TV box.

I have to say that i'm kind of disappointed in the quality of WinTV recorded footage. It's no where near as nice as using the Hauppauge Capture software. Does WinTV limit a 8k bitrate? I can't seem to get it over 8k and i don't see any settings to control quality of the recordings.

I don't have WinTV 7 installed on the PC I'm using now and I don't use WinTV 7 often, but I don't recall a way to set specific bit rates. Arcsoft Showbiz does have a way to access various settings through the GUIs for Hauppauge's drivers, including bit rate settings, but it can't schedule recordings like WinTV 7. I use it for capturing on-demand versions of some shows I forgot to record. I can't say that the bitrates in my Showbiz recordings match the settings I picked, but they have some effect. The driver settings set by Arcsoft Showbiz are supposed to remain in place for other software if the other software doesn't reset them. Maybe WinTV 7 would use them too.

[Edit] I'm using NextPVR alone or with XBMC for scheduled recordings. There is a way to set the bitrate in a config file used by NextPVR. Once again that appears to have some effect, but I don't get exactly what I specified. I don't remember if it is possible to use Hauppauge's IR blaster with NextPVR. I'm using Firewire instead.

[kkiller23]

I have to confess that I never set up my Colossus' IR blaster. I already had 2 other ways to change channels at my disposal, one of which is an MCE IR blaster. I did set up the MCE IR blaster for Windows Media Center to use with a different Hauppauge capture device. One thing I tried was "teaching" Windows Media Center the remote codes because I did not find my cable box in their list of cable boxes with known remote codes. It was not a fun thing to do and did not work very well. I found another way to approach the problem rather than teaching the software manually. Some cable providers, maybe most, use the same remote with all their boxes. I selected one of the other cable boxes used by my provider and that worked.

I reviewed the documentation for the IR blaster setup in WinTV 7. It looks like here is a list of cable boxes to choose from at some point in the process. Was your Time Warner Samsung model included in the list? If not, maybe the codes for another box will work. Here is a list of cable boxes and DVRs used by Time Warner.

I think i finally got it after trying every brand even close to the model of my TV box.

I have to say that i'm kind of disappointed in the quality of WinTV recorded footage. It's no where near as nice as using the Hauppauge Capture software. Does WinTV limit a 8k bitrate? I can't seem to get it over 8k and i don't see any settings to control quality of the recordings.

I don't have WinTV 7 installed on the PC I'm using now and I don't use WinTV 7 often, but I don't recall a way to set specific bit rates. Arcsoft Showbiz does have a way to access various settings through the GUIs for Hauppauge's drivers, including bit rate settings, but it can't schedule recordings like WinTV 7. I use it for capturing on-demand versions of some shows I forgot to record. I can't say that the bitrates in my Showbiz recordings match the settings I picked, but they have some effect. The driver settings set by Arcsoft Showbiz are supposed to remain in place for other software if the other software doesn't reset them. Maybe WinTV 7 would use them too.

[Edit] I'm using NextPVR alone or with XBMC for scheduled recordings. There is a way to set the bitrate in a config file used by NextPVR. Once again that appears to have some effect, but I don't get exactly what I specified. I don't remember if it is possible to use Hauppauge's IR blaster with NextPVR. I'm using Firewire instead.

I tried changing the settings in the Arcoft Showbiz software, but it didn't actually change the output for WinTV. Showbiz limits the bitrate to 8k, so WinTV must be using Arcsoft, but can't find the settings to actually change it for WinTV. I tried using NextPVR, but couldn't figure out how to find the channel list for my provider. WinTV did it for me using the internet. If i could get WinTV to use 14k bitrate instead of 8k. I would be happy with it, but 8k is kind of pointless if they don't allow you to change the settings.

[usually_quiet]

You must install and set up mc2xml to get the channel data for NextPVR's guide. The instructions for using it with NextPVR are here. mc2xml may be downloaded from http://mc2xml.hosterbox.net/ I currently use Microsoft's legacy service and the free version of mc2xml.

There will probably be a fair number of channels in the list not included in your TWC package that you will want to remove from your program guide. Instructions are here.

Bitrate settings are in a config.xml file in the file's HDPVR section. Search for 1080i, 720p or SD to find them. I use the same bit rate settings for all three because the Colossus doesn't always accurately detect the resolution it is receiving. Make sure you make a backup copy of config.xml and shut down NextPVR and its recording service before editing. For more information see: http://www.gbpvr.com/nwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Configuration.Advanced

[kkiller23]

I finally was able to change the bitrate for WinTV 7.

I thought i would post it in here in case someone else was having issues. It would only allow me to put a hex number in, doing 14000000 wouldn't work

"AnalogBitrateMode"=dword:00000000
"AnalogBitrateAvg"=dword:00d59f80
"AnalogBitrateMin"=dword:00d59f80
"AnalogBitrateMax"=dword:00d59f80


Using that will change the WinTV records to Variable and 14k bitrate instead of 8k.

You just have to go into HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Hauppauge\ TVServer\HDPVR

Right click the "HDPVR" folder and click export, then just put in the AnalogBitrateMode etc that i pasted above.



Sorry for bumping, but hopefully this will help someone who finds this thread in the future.

[usually_quiet]

I finally was able to change the bitrate for WinTV 7.

I thought i would post it in here in case someone else was having issues. It would only allow me to put a hex number in, doing 14000000 wouldn't work

"AnalogBitrateMode"=dword:00000000
"AnalogBitrateAvg"=dword:00d59f80
"AnalogBitrateMin"=dword:00d59f80
"AnalogBitrateMax"=dword:00d59f80


Using that will change the WinTV records to Variable and 14k bitrate instead of 8k.

You just have to go into HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Hauppauge\ TVServer\HDPVR

Right click the "HDPVR" folder and click export, then just put in the AnalogBitrateMode etc that i pasted above.



Sorry for bumping, but hopefully this will help someone who finds this thread in the future.

I would only have expected the same value to be used for all three bitrate settings using constant bitrate mode, although often only the average bitrate is needed if CBR encoding is specified. Normally variable bitrate encoding uses a smaller min value and a larger max value as its parameters, although some encoders allow users to set an average value between the other two as well.

It seems so odd that "AnalogBitrateAvg", "AnalogBitrateMin" and "AnalogBitrateMax" should all be set to the same value if VBR encoding is desired that I have to ask, are you trying to force CBR encoding? Google found another link stating that WinTV should set the encoder to use a constant bitrate when "AnalogBitrateMode"=dword:00000001 If CBR encoding is your goal, did you try that? Did you find a reference stating that the parameters WinTV would use to set up the HD-PVR 2 for CBR encoding are different from those WinTV would use for other devices?

[kkiller23]

I finally was able to change the bitrate for WinTV 7.

I thought i would post it in here in case someone else was having issues. It would only allow me to put a hex number in, doing 14000000 wouldn't work

"AnalogBitrateMode"=dword:00000000
"AnalogBitrateAvg"=dword:00d59f80
"AnalogBitrateMin"=dword:00d59f80
"AnalogBitrateMax"=dword:00d59f80


Using that will change the WinTV records to Variable and 14k bitrate instead of 8k.

You just have to go into HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Hauppauge\ TVServer\HDPVR

Right click the "HDPVR" folder and click export, then just put in the AnalogBitrateMode etc that i pasted above.



Sorry for bumping, but hopefully this will help someone who finds this thread in the future.

I would only have expected the same value to be used for all three bitrate settings using constant bitrate mode, although often only the average bitrate is needed if CBR encoding is specified. Normally variable bitrate encoding uses a smaller min value and a larger max value as its parameters, although some encoders allow users to set an average value between the other two as well.

It seems so odd that "AnalogBitrateAvg", "AnalogBitrateMin" and "AnalogBitrateMax" should all be set to the same value if VBR encoding is desired that I have to ask, are you trying to force CBR encoding? Google found another link stating that WinTV should set the encoder to use a constant bitrate when "AnalogBitrateMode"=dword:00000001 If CBR encoding is your goal, did you try that? Did you find a reference stating that the parameters WinTV would use to set up the HD-PVR 2 for CBR encoding are different from those WinTV would use for other devices?

I'm looking to use VBR. I wasn't sure what was needed for VBR since the default is CBR. I just put them all in just incase. It is working great, so must not matter all that much.

[SHS]

I was just using the Hauppauge Capture software. I think it might have just been my Anti Virus. It turned itself back on some how even though i turned it off till next reboot.

Which AV do you have?.

Now i just have to figure out this IR blaster that will won't work for the life of me. Does anyone have a video for setting it up besides the one on the Hauppauge YouTube channel? I spent like 2 hours last night trying to get the IR blaster working WinTV with no luck.

I even tried to program it myself, but it just kept telling me "LearnKey(1) failed"

I managed to get Power and enter to work, but the numbers on my remote just don't seem to want to work.

Edit: I got all the numbers working besides 1, 2 and 3

I add them and it says that they added them, but when i try to go to a channel with one of them numbers it doesn't work.

let's say i'm trying to go to channel 38

If i click on that channel it will load to it, but when it puts in the numbers to the TV box. It only does 08 instead of 038.

I don't get why it's doing this. I added numbers 1, 2, 3 like 5 times now and it still doesn't put them into the TV box.

If your hold the button numbers and doesn't work try taping as in clicking the buttons
Have you try change the 100 delay by add more delay like 300 or even 600

[jagabo]

I thought i would post it in here in case someone else was having issues. It would only allow me to put a hex number in, doing 14000000 wouldn't work

You should be able to select the Decimal option in the dialog. Then you can enter decimal numbers.