NTSC_433

[Masterwork]

Hello. I have an EasyCAP and in order to capture Pal 60 I saw a tutorial that I need to have the NTSC_433 mode in my computer (forgive me if I'm saying something dumb, but I don't know much about video capturing).
Is there a way to install a codec that enables NTSC_433 capturing in the computer or something? I tried 4 computers and none of them have this mode...

Thanks in advance!

[DB83]

It's actually NTSC 443 but the number is not the issue here.

NTSC 443 and PAL 60 mean the same thing - a NTSC signal capable of being played on a PAL device.

Your Easycap program can record a PAL 60 signal but in order to do so you must have a capture device capable of receiving it such as one with a BT878 video chip.

Download and run Dscaler. If you can see the video that your VCR is playing then you can record it. Otherwise you will need a card.

It is not a software/codec issue.

[Masterwork]

I'm referring to this video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dpJ_ps_Rj5k

I don't have the NTSC 443 option, what am I doing wrong?
In Dscaler I can only see B&W image on NTSC, and on PAL the image freezes :\

[JohnnyMalaria]

NTSC 443 and PAL 60 mean the same thing - a NTSC signal capable of being played on a PAL device.

Not exactly.

NTSC 4.43 is a regular NTSC signal except that the color carrier frequency is 4.43MHz instead of 3.58MHz so as to be equivalent to standard PAL.

PAL 60 employs phase alternation (unlike NTSC) but uses a 60Hz field rate instead of 50Hz.

Nevertheless, they are both odd-balls reflecting the nonsense that was (and is) political division of television standard

[DB83]

I'm referring to this video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dpJ_ps_Rj5k

I don't have the NTSC 443 option, what am I doing wrong?
In Dscaler I can only see B&W image on NTSC, and on PAL the image freezes :\

The title of that video says it all "......with capture card"

I stand corrected about the number 433 (443)

What you are seeing is the PAL60 signal. You capture device thinks it is an NTSC signal and shows it in Black and White. They all will without the neccessary hardware.

[Masterwork]

What can I do to get a coloured image then?

[DB83]

What can I do to get a coloured image then?

You need a capture card that has a BT878 chip. Like this one.

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=2MP2&SearchType=1&SearchTerms=hauppauge...SearchMode=All

There are other cards - older Hauggauge but not newer ones.

Same goes for older versions of ATI All-in-Wonder cardss (before 2006 models)

Matrox Marvel Cards also worked.

There are other cards. Do a google search for PAL-60.

Amother option is a digital standards converter like this one.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DIGITAL-NTSC-TO-PAL-CONVERTER-EVEN-NTSC-PLAYBACK-PAL-60_W0QQitem...2em118Q2el1247

Note that a standard NTSC to PAL converter will NOT work.

Final option would be to obtain a genuine NTSC VCR or a multi-standard VCR.

[Masterwork]

But I've seen other people with an EasyCAP capturing Pal 60 simply by following that tutorial...

[DB83]

What parts of the words "with a capture card" do you not understand ?

The guy who made that tutorial clearly had a compatable device. You do not.

I've had several capture cards. Some have done it. Some have not. In fact I have two in this PC and only one can.

Search these forums for PAL60 or PAL-60 and see what other posters have to say.

I now give up.

[JohnnyMalaria]

The guy who made that tutorial clearly had a compatable device. You do not.

But Masterwork *does* have an EasyCap which is the very device used in the tutorial and the accompanying video that is linked to it.

[Masterwork]

But this one is especific for EasyCAP: http://youtube.com/watch?v=9NClnEAGvrI

[Masterwork]

The guy who made that tutorial clearly had a compatable device. You do not.

But Masterwork *does* have an EasyCap which is the very device used in the tutorial and the accompanying video that is linked to it.

YES, thank you!

[hech54]

The guy who made that tutorial clearly had a compatable device. You do not.

But Masterwork *does* have an EasyCap which is the very device used in the tutorial and the accompanying video that is linked to it.

YES, thank you!

At 35 seconds into that video....he says "I'm not sure if it is the same for EasyCap but it should be "roughly" the same".....so he is NOT using an Easycap.
And he is also able to change the output on the game console he is capturing from.

[DB83]

Hang on one minute.

The original question and link referred to a software capture program.

We now seem to be talking about some hardware.

BOTH have the same name. Confusing or what ?

Now which one is it. Software or hardware ?

[Masterwork]

This is getting confusing lol.
I have an EasyCAP USB Video Capture and I want to capture games in PAL 60.
Some people that have EasyCAP USB have that NTSC_433 option therefore they can record PAL 60 games with colour, all I want is to have that option too, but when I follow that tutorial I don't have that option, I only have 2 types of NTSC and lots of PAL, and when I select NTSC the image is black and white and when I select PAL the image gets colour and it freezes.
I tried like 3 different programs on 4 different computers.

[DB83]

What programs have you tried ?

[hech54]

Some people that have EasyCAP USB have that NTSC_433 option

I have not seen any evidence of this.

[DB83]

If it provides any comfort, I do not see either NTSC_433 or PAL-60 as input options for the majority of my capture programs.

The only one I have at present that does these is DScaler. Mind you IIRC the issue was a little different before I filtered the signal through a ADVC (analogue/digital video converter) to clean up the signal before capture. This device does only support pure Pal or pure NTSC. I'm sure before this I could see PAL60 in programs such as Virtual VCR.

Ok, the purpose I does these captures is somewhat different to yours (NTSC video) but the end result should be the same.

I assume that this capture device uses WDM drivers. They can be quite fickle. You often have to set the record parameters with one program before you can use them with another.

[JohnnyMalaria]

Some people that have EasyCAP USB have that NTSC_433 option

I have not seen any evidence of this.

As I mentioned earlier, the linked video has a link to another one called "PAL60 support for USB video capture devices (easycap/kworld)" In this video, it is an EasyCap and it does show support for PAL_60 and NTSC_433. Some comments for that video suggest that different versions may exist.

[DB83]

I just did a quick 'google' and there is one post about incompatability between this device, Pal60 and , you guessed right, good young MS Vista.

[JohnnyMalaria]

The comments for the originating video suggest that some EasyCaps do support PAL_60 and NTSC_433 and that others don't:

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=9NClnEAGvrI&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3D9NClnEAGvrI

The second video which is a YouTube "video answer" to the first is a tutorial on Vista.

[hech54]

Some people that have EasyCAP USB have that NTSC_433 option

I have not seen any evidence of this.

As I mentioned earlier, the linked video has a link to another one called "PAL60 support for USB video capture devices (easycap/kworld)" In this video, it is an EasyCap and it does show support for PAL_60 and NTSC_433. Some comments for that video suggest that different versions may exist.

Did you even WATCH the video?
In this video:
PAL60 support for USB video capture devices (easycap/kworld)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9NClnEAGvrI
As I said earlier....in this video the narrator CLEARLY says:
"I'm not sure if it is the same for EasyCap but it should be "roughly" the same"
He is NOT using an EasyCap.
What part of that didn't you understand?

[JohnnyMalaria]

What part of that didn't you understand?

Point out mistakes but don't be sh!tty.

[hech54]

What part of that didn't you understand?

Point out mistakes but don't be sh!tty.

I wasn't shitty the FIRST time I pointed out....or the SECOND.