blue poo your days are numbered

[NICEBUD]

http://www.red.com/









Got this from www.Doom9.net

[JohnnyMalaria]

Have you any idea how much RED gear is? I don't think BR need worry. Also, RED are painfully slow at delivering. Just read the RED forum on DV Info to find out. For years I never saw a real photo of a RED 4K camera - just CAD renderings.

[jagabo]

RED is about content acquisition, not delivery to consumers.

[MozartMan]

blue poo your days are numbered

Sounds like desperation from HD DVD loser.

[rumplestiltskin]

Wow; a thread arguing about buggy whips.

[Noahtuck]

For years I never saw a real photo of a RED 4K camera - just CAD renderings.

I don't know anything about this yet but it look's like more than still or CAD images here....

http://www.red.com/shot_on_red

[PuzZLeR]

As I'm writing this, the Red group is probably making their pitch at the NAB Show in Vegas this week.

I can hear their audience even now going "YYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNN!"

But for the sake of argument, let's say it is indeed better than blu-ray since the name seems to trigger "fightin' words" with the current incumbent.

This technology is caught between late and early to win adoption - too late to win blu-ray's market within a consumer-base averse to multiple formats which is indicating a contentment to a war being freshly over, and too early since the consumer base is years away from looking into a new format.

This is just something the HD-DvD supporters will milk for a bit of time...

[mpiper]

Having talked with several users and one of the Red team at a previous Photoshop World, here's my take on this:

Red is the ultimate for budget-concious professional film makers. Red is not (and has no intention of becoming) intended for the consumer/general public.

While 2K and 4K TVs are on the horizon, cost will keep those out of the showroom (except Neiman Marcus) for several years. When they eventually become mainstream, the next Codec/hardware will be entirely different from what is in existance today. (Although it might be a cousin of Red.)

With the much regretted (for me at least) demise of HD-DVD, BR will be around for as long as the market will allow studios to profit from it.

[Soopafresh]

I've worked with some red camera footage. It was surprisingly noisy, especially in the chroma channels.

But blu ray is just a media storage method. Red ray isn't going to catch on in the consumer market. Their stuff is far too high end.

[NICEBUD]

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[jagabo]

And why bother with a mere 12 megapixel format? The Japanese (forget which company) have been showing off much higer resolution systems (something like 30 megapixel) for a while now.

Ah, here we go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4320p

[NICEBUD]

MozartMan wrote


Sounds like desperation from HD DVD loser.








Sounds just like the rest of FONY fanboy club.

[PuzZLeR]

That's the point. Red and Blu are two different mindsets and in different markets with different target bases. Average Joe Consumer is just now starting to fathom video with 6x more capacity...imagine Red?

I just hope Red isn't stupid enough to think they can suddenly be like blu at this point in time...

[PuzZLeR]

Just read this after I posted last:

Sounds just like the rest of FONY fanboy club.

Look "Bud", even though I was blu, I'd be just as happy that the war is over even if HD-DvD won. I just got sick of it all and I'd be just as sick if suddenly something new decided to revive it.

And I'm sick of the few "blu-gloaters", but I'm also sick of certain few individuals on the HD-DvD camp, like you, trying to make everybody else participate in their suicide as a "disc user".

I'm done with this thread.

[JohnnyMalaria]

For years I never saw a real photo of a RED 4K camera - just CAD renderings.

I don't know anything about this yet but it look's like more than still or CAD images here....

http://www.red.com/shot_on_red

I didn't say the imaging sensors and electronics didn't exist. I'm talking about the cameras etc that the end users would purchase.

I saw those samples last year - they are VERY impressive. But they were not shot with the equipment pitched by RED. They used the 4K sensor - that's all.

There's a whole forum dedicated to RED on DV Info. People paid $1000s and $1000s of dollars to pre-order the RED camera. Months went buy and not a single person had a camera.

RED RAY is in no way related to Blu-Ray. Blu-Ray is for final media distribution in a compressed format. RED RAY is for optical recording at the point of acquisition - from the camera - no compression - extremely high dynamic range.

But RED have a habit of not delivering the goods on time.

The latest equipment probably doesn't exist either - hence the CAD files in the OP's link. They state early 2009. I'd be surprised.

Anyone comparing Blu-Ray and RED as contenders for the same piece of the pie clearly doesn't grasp acquisition vs. distribution.