Out of sync when upping res

[sean madison]

OK, i have an mpg thats already been encoded to vcd standard.
I up the res to 480x480 so i can encode it in svcd standard.

When i do that, the audio goes out of sync by trailing off on down the video and never fixed itself.

The fps on the vcd mpg is 29.97 and fps im encoding at is also 29.97 fps.

Whats up, why's it doin that?

[vitualis]

Why on earth are you encoding an MPEG already in VCD specs to SVCD specs??

The quality will be lower on the SVCD. It's like recompressing a JPEG to another JPEG.

As for sync problems, your encoder may simply have a problem handling MPEG audio as an input.

Regards.

[sean madison]

My encoder???

Dude, i'm using TMPGENC

Besides, it DOES look better trust me!

I just need to know why its goin outta sync

[vitualis]

Dude, i'm using TMPGENC

And what's your point? Try decoding the audio to standard PCM WAV first.

As for it "looking better" you must have a different set of criteria to me and your eyes/brain must interpret quality differently. The only way it can look "better" is that during the conversion for VCD (already very lossy format) to SVCD (another very lossy format) is that the picture gets smeared out and blurred. This can hide blocking and noise but also means that you lose detail.

To my eyes this looks looks WORSE.

Regards.

[sean madison]

ok i'll try that man.

Its just wierd though

Ive encoded plenty of mpgs already in vcd to xvcd fine using cbr.

Its just when i up res to 480x480 and use CQ audio goes outa sync but i'll try wav.

Also, lots of people criticize me about how can u do that and no way comments.

If u want, i'll send u a picture of it or a short vid clip when im done

[vitualis]

Look, you don't need to send me any clips... It may surprise you but experimenting with very low bitrates, VBR, etc., is hardly a new thing. Most people who have been doing this for a while will probably have done this sometime to see how things turn out.

Most people who are critisising you here are doing it from experience. After a while, you get a feel for what can and cannot be done with standard MPEG-1/2 compression and frankly, some of your claims are pretty ambitious at best.

As for the determination of quality, you have to realise that quality is subjective. What you think looks good or acceptable may look like crap to someone else. Furthermore, short clips or stills are really meaningless as a test for any particular setting or template.

Real testing is watching a full length movie on a TV (i.e., real life settings) to see if there are any part of the video that become unacceptable in terms of quality. Having 99% of your video looking great is pointless if the remaining 1% looks like crap and is annoying. Furthermore, encoding different types of video (or at least a video clip that is taxing for MPEG-1/2 systems) is needed rather than just one clip.

Again, I applaud you for your enthusiasm and I think you will learn a lot from your experiments and you will probably have much to offer to the forum. But, don't post outrageous claims without proof. Furthermore, I draw the line at anyone posting unsolicited commercial interests.

Regards.

[sean madison]

lol, makin claims with no proof???


This is ironic.

I cant prove it if i cant show it. Now i know what u were saying bout 99% movie and all that.


OK, i've been waiting for baldrick to email me back for 2 weeks about a new mpg format i made but he has yet to email me back.

[vitualis]

If your template is so great, post it or your clips on a website rather than soliciting people about how "great" your method is. No one is stopping you.

I find it "ironic" that you complain about not being able to show your clips. Furthermore, as I recall, the people who DID review a clip your made available before were not impressed by the quality. Furthermore, the real average bitrate for that clip was much higher than you tried to claim.

Baldrick has undoubtedly been ignoring you because you haven't made a new MPEG format. You've just made a non-standard VCD template (i.e., XVCD) and either a non-standard SVCD template or simply a low bitrate version of one. I'm sorry, but there is NOTHING new there. And "Rainbow Book", "VCD-X" and "SVCD-X"? They are nothing but meaningless names, but may mislead someone who is new to the field. BTW, "Rainbow Book" has already been taken and refers to Sony's Minidisc (MD): http://www.minidisc.org/ieee_paper.html

Furthermore, there's been more than enough evidence from your posts that many of your conversion methods are highly questionable (e.g., up converting VCD to SVCD).

Your claim of fitting > 100 minutes on 1 CD, "lossless" as a compliant VCD is completely bogus. Please read what a VCD is on the top left hand link of the menu.

Now, you've been asking for money for your "method" as well. Anybody with experience in this can instantly smell scam but I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you are just naieve.

Regards.

[sean madison]

well i do thank you for responding but listen to this-

The clip i had made was NOT a quality test as mentioned about a billion times.

It was to prove that i can make video encoded in either vcd or svcd standard hold more than 80 min onto 1 cd and lossless to hold at 1 hr 45 min compared to the original standard.

Here is why it is not xvcd or xsvcd-

U import it in nero with compliant cd checked, it gives no errors.
I have tested it in 3 dvd players that only support vcd\svcd standard IN PERSON and they finally played a movie!! over 80 min in length!

I have even counted, a total of 17 emails replying saying that they could never watch a movie before on their dvd player without putting onto 2 cds. Now they have it on 1 cd and the quality is still the same.

The clip i sent baldrick was a "file size" test
That the normal standard file size would be a lot larger.

Not only that- the 1150 vid bitrate cbr, 224 audio, motion search precision to normal, and so on does NOT make a vcd standard as i have recently found out.

The guide explains it.

Cuz this is fact right here- if what i am doing is xvcd, then why are these dvd players playing them when i have actually tested REAL xvcds and xsvcds before and they wont even load, but with this new method, it plays perfectly


ITS NOT NON STANDARD FORMAT

[pinoy2201]

Shizzon why dont you post your so called VCD-X and we'll test it our self to see if it is a "standard" format...just post it and we will see

[sean madison]

THATS WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO!!!

Baldrick wont ever email me back requesting it.
So only way i know for yall to test it is to IM on AIM- ShiZZZoN

[vitualis]

It was to prove that i can make video encoded in either vcd or svcd standard hold more than 80 min onto 1 cd and lossless to hold at 1 hr 45 min compared to the original standard.

Why don't you think about the hype you are typing before posting again?? You haven't proved ANY of the things here. You CANNOT put more than 80 minutes on a VCD (on 80 min media). Now you CAN do this on a SVCD as it uses VBR MPEG-2 and this has never been in contention.

Now as far as I'm concerned lossless means that it looks like the original. No VCD or SVCD looks like the original DVD so it is a completely meaningless term. If you mean "lossless" in terms of looking as good as a SVCD or VCD can be expected of doing, well your test clips failed miserably.

Here is why it is not xvcd or xsvcd-

U import it in nero with compliant cd checked, it gives no errors.
I have tested it in 3 dvd players that only support vcd\svcd standard IN PERSON and they finally played a movie!! over 80 min in length!

COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT!!!!

Since when has Nero been the bastion of compliancy? If your MPEG-2 clip is just a low bitrate SVCD specs, of course it will work. There is nothing newer or surprising there.

If your MPEG-1 clip is off spec and Nero accepts it, it is because Nero is faulty.

Furthermore, NO DVD PLAYER SUPPORTS XVCD or XSVCD as neither of these are "standards". That fact that you can get your template to work (which is nothing more than X/S/VCD) is inconsequential.

Now they have it on 1 cd and the quality is still the same.

Well I can tell you that it doesn't look like the same as have many people here. Try to be more open minded and accept your critisism as well as your praise.

Not only that- the 1150 vid bitrate cbr, 224 audio, motion search precision to normal, and so on does NOT make a vcd standard as i have recently found out.

1150 kbit/s CBR and 224 kbit/s CBR is definitely required. Why WHAT measure are you working on? The fact that it works on Nero? The fact that it works on your DVD players? Completely irrelevant.

I can tell you that my stand-alone VCD player (remember, those machines that were designed to play VCDs) cannot play ANY video stream if it is not compliant settings. Above that, muxing, padding, etc., all have to be correct too.

Cuz this is fact right here- if what i am doing is xvcd, then why are these dvd players playing them when i have actually tested REAL xvcds and xsvcds before and they wont even load, but with this new method, it plays perfectly

What is is REAL XVCD??? Anything off spec is an "XVCD". Is it particularly surprising that any one player can play some XVCDs and not others? I don't think so.

You my friend need to learn what "VCD" and "SVCD" are. Only then can you appreciate what an XVCD and XSVCD are. Furthermore, look up the meaning of "standard" and "format" as well.

As for posting your clips/template, do it on another website if you are so convinced because you have convinced nobody with experience here.

Regards.

[sean madison]

ok then, if u think u know it all and im just retarded, explain this-

My parents have a samsung dvd\vcr combo

On vcdhelp, it strictly says vcd and svcd standard ONLY, no non standard formats.

Well, i tried out an xsvcd, sure enough it did not work.

With this new method, i can now watch NEW vcd and svcd standard movies as much as i have tested as long as 2 hr 26 min onto a single cd.

So if thats xsvcd, then why can it play it if it couldnt play my other non standard svcds

[pinoy2201]

Shizzon open up Notepad and go to File->Open and put file types to all and search for the "VCD-X" Template and open it up then copy all the things and paste to it on the forum..thats all you do.

then when you post it we copy it from the forum paste it on to notepad and press Save AS and name it "VCD-X.mcf" and then we have the template isnt that wounderful

[sean madison]

i dont understand yall

Ya criticize me cuz u think ya know it all yet u want the guide????

well ok, if u want it here it is-

[sean madison]

ShiZZZoN PzN™
“Just another step closer to reality”
by
ShiZZZoN

This guide is the new format of the future until a new one comes out!
VCD-X and SVCD-X


1. Introduction
2. Who is ShiZZZoN?
3. VCD-X™ vs SVCD-X™
4. Guide for VCD-X™
5. Guide for SVCD-X™
6. F.A.Q.
7. Troubleshooting


1- Introduction

VCD\SVCD\XVCD\XSVCD- these 4 formats are the most commonly known formats to those who burn your favorite video clips and watch them in your DVD player.

VCD and SVCD- These are the basis of the 4 formats. The only problem with VCD\SVCD is the “standard” specs in which we all go by.
VCD specs- same standard as an audio cd (74 min cd=74 min video, 80 min cd=80 video)
SVCD specs- 35-40 mins of video on 1 cd
XVCD specs- anything You want but you will be sacrificing compatibility.
XSVCD- anything You want but this is even sacrificing even more compatibility.
The New Format-
VCD-X™ specs- Anything you want plus as compatible as standard VCD
SVCD-X™ specs- Anything you want plus as compatible as standard SVCD

2- Who is ShiZZZoN?
My real name is Sean aka ShiZZZoN. I am 19 years old, going on 20, as of 2002. I am majoring as a computer engineer and this is my 2nd yr of college as of 2002. I have been a computer “geek” since 1994. In 1999, I learned about VCD and SVCD and learned quickly too. After I had got the basics down, I wanted to learn about the advanced settings in tmpgenc. After studied and doing tests, I learned of another format, XVCD and XSVCD. Not knowing if it was compatible with my DVD player, I tried it anyways. It worked fine and I was very excited. For the next year, I was using xvcd and xsvcd interchangeably. Later on, I was confident I knew enough about tmpgenc and my good quality I was using, I made a guide for vcdhelp for people to learn about how to better the quality. Well, within the time of using xsvcd and xvcd, my friend had went out and bout him a dvd player. The APEX 500w. His would only play standard formats. At the time, he would just watch them on his computer. It was no big deal to me and we both did not want to have to burn a video onto 2 cds.
Well Christmas of 2001 comes around and we got a new dvd\vcr combo for our living room. I went on VCDHelp to read compatibility issues and it could only play standard formats. This is when I strive to accomplish the impossible. I wanted to find a way to MAKE it play non standard format. Well, it took a whole week of testing but I finally did it!
3- VCD-X™ vs SVCD-X™

Both of these formats are good. If you want true widescreen, use SVCD-X™ , if you just want vcd, use the other format. The only quality difference is just like any other test. This is just standard in a non-standard way.

4- Guide for VCD-X™

All of the following may or may not be needed:
Virtual Dub v1.3c -- optional
CDRWin -- optional
VCDGear -- optional
XVCDCalc
TMPGEnc
Nero v 5048 or older

All of these will be available on my website soon (http://shizzzon.xk5.org)

The following supports these files already in this format-
Avi or mpg
If it is in asf or wmv, please use virtual dub and make it into an avi so you can encode faster.

If you need to know what settings to use to make the quality look better, download my XSVCD guide with no blocks. There is an update to that but I haven’t released that yet either.

IMPORTANT MUST READ THIS BEFORE ENCODING--------
When you are encoding your VCD, you will first be encoding it into XVCD. So to do this, while TMPGEnc is open, click settings, stream type, then select MPEG-1 System (automatic)

Now, after your video clip is done encoding, here comes the fun part!
While tmpgenc is still open, click file up top, then MPEG Tools.
Go to Merge and Cut
Select this stream type- MPEG-1 VideoCD (non-standard)
Now click add and import your file(s) into the window.
Now select your filename and destination to where it will be outputted.
Now hit run!
When it is done, open Nero and choose Video CD compilation. On the far left tab, make sure that Create Compliant Cd IS CHECKED!
Now, hit New
When you are importing your clip into the compilation, Nero will take longer because it is checking it. After it checks it, burn it.

5- Guide for SVCD-X™

I am sorry, but in order to learn the methods of making this format, you must submit $5 to the following address and I WILL Email you the guide!

Sean Madison
5806 Crockett Drive
Louisville, KY 40258
(By the way, I do live in the United States)
The guide is included with the following-
How to make it
F.A.Q. about just this format
Troubleshooting
Enhanced quality settings to get more than the most out of your video bitrate for 1 cd

6- F.A.Q.

Why would I ever use VCDGear or CDRwin?

If you have already made an xvcd and its in dat format, use vcdgear to turn it into an mpg file.
Also, if you have made a cue\bin, u need vcdgear.
For cdrwin- If you have an XSVCD file, u need to dl my other guide that explains ho to convert XSVCD movies already burned on cds editable again on a pc.

Why do you charge for SVCD-X™ format?

The reason is because this should become a new widely known format and out of all of things I have made and helped, a little credit is needed. Besides, with all of the things I had to buy for my pc to test and for my server to get my pc stayin alive. I need to get $1,200 so I can build me the “Super pc” so I can run my pc in 1 month intervals for my server instead of 2-5 day intervals

Why is your name ShiZZZoN?

Lol, well, the new slang talk is to put zzz in everything. Sezzzan wouldn’t sound right so I just made it ShiZZZoN.

What does PzN stand for?

This stands for PiRaTeR’Z NaTioNiZeD. No further information will be given.

Why can’t my DVD player play your new VCD-X format?

Well, there can be several reasons, not my fault though. Here are some reasons-
When you opened nero, you may have had the create compliant cd unchecked.
Also, you cannot use nero v 5.5+ as it does not read the format correctly.
Your dvd player may not support cd-r or cd-rws

Why is it when I encode a movie in this format, anything over 80 minutes my dvd player tries to play the whole movie in an 80 min time frame causing it to speed up?

Well, I am working on this as of right now. Some dvd players have this problem.
The Samsung dvd+vcr combo does. I do not know if any others do or not.
The dvd+vcr combo does however play the svcd format perfect
I am still testing to see why the mpeg stream for vcd speeds up on the Samsung.
I need to try other streams because I have been successful as using system-vbr to even ENCRYPT the movie to where it becomes corrupt on pcs but playable on dvd players.

Should I buy your new svcd format even if I am satisfied with the new vcd standard now?

Well, this is opinion. I will tell you the benefits of it and then you can decide.
The SVCD standard format of the one I have made makes all movies in TRUE widescreen. What I mean by this is there is no using clip frame, unless u want to. It displays the movie in a “dvd like” viewable display. Whereas, people become a little thinner causing it to look just like dvd movies. SVCD has been proven by me to display video better than vcd in these key points-
For one, when changing scenes where the whole screen fades black, vcd tends to have artifacts on that part, whereas, svcd is crystal clear even at bitrates of 570 if filtered properly.
For two, svcd smooths everything out and sharpens the movie a little at the same time not even using filters!, but filters are usually necessary if not a dvd-rip.
For three, the svcd stream is the same as dvd so you must expect professional quality from svcd. Now, the longer the movie, the less the quality gets agreed with many people but recently, I have found out is that if u use my xvcdcalc and whatever bitrate it gives you, double it and use CQ in TMPGEnc.
IE- if the calc gives u a bitrate of 1000. Go into tmpgenc and set CQ to the following-
Min- 0 Max- 2000 quality- 50 (always)
The outputted file size should always be around 40mb smaller than if u were just to use 1000 CBR!

7- Troubleshooting

Problems with TMPGEnc-

When I encode, I get an illegal floating point error, what is that?

That means you have bad frame(s) in your video. Open Virtual dub, go to open file. Select your movie and click popup extended options and then choose after hitting open, derive keyframes or something like that and open in avi compatibility mode. Move timeline to part is made error in tmpgenc and cut out that part. Move timeline further down and make sure there are no more parts like that.

When I use the version of vcdgear I dl off of your site to convert dat  mpg, it gave me an “invalid mpeg pack size.” What does that mean?

I’m not for sure but there is a solution. Go to www.vcdhelp.com and dl the VCDGEAR GUI. Its an older version but it WILL convert dat to mpg. It’s version 1.6, I have v 3.05 on my site.

Why can’t I use nero 5.5+ to burn movies or why cant nero v 5.5+ burn movies over 80 min long on 1 cd?

I have no idea, contact Ahead. I do know there is a glitch to it though. When you turn off compliancy, it still wants to read the duration rather than file size. Nero 5.0.4.8 will read by file size rather than duration. Just make sure you have compliancy turned on!

Why does tmpgenc say its gonna take 21 hrs or more to encode 1 movie?

2 reasons-
1- you are encoding either an asf or wmv file. If you are, extract it out as an avi in virtual dub.
2- your motion search precision is set to highest whereas your processor speed or ram isn’t enough to handle it, or the priorities are set low when you are doing other things causing tmpgenc to be in a non-active window. Resolution- set motion search precision to motion estimate search.


Why when I re-stream it in tmpgenc in mpeg tools\merge and cut I get an error saying “illegal mpeg…”?

I do not know; I have never had this error. I can assure you though you will probably need to upgrade your version though. Get the version I have off of my website. If it is doing it on that version or a version newer than that version, Email me ASAP describing what part in sec was the movie at in merge and cut when it did that. Your processor specs and ram and your operating system. Your system resources at the time( right click my computer, go to properties, click on performance tab) and what other programs did u have open, did just close and your Direct X version(go to start, run, type this in- dxdiag )



I hope I have helped you out enough to understand how to do this and any questions you may have should have been answered.
If there is any question you would like to ask regarding this guide or any other guide, feel free to IM me on AIM, SN is -- ShiZZZoN


Anyone who is interested in paying for the new svcd format guide, I will assure you. If you have any problems with it, I will give you my full support in helping you but you shouldn’t since it is as easy compatible as the vcd standard.


ShiZZZoN

[bilbogod]

Has anyone tried this stuff yet????
Don't let this post fade into obscurity.....

[vitualis]

My parents have a samsung dvd\vcr combo

On vcdhelp, it strictly says vcd and svcd standard ONLY, no non standard formats.

Well, i tried out an xsvcd, sure enough it did not work.

With this new method, i can now watch NEW vcd and svcd standard movies as much as i have tested as long as 2 hr 26 min onto a single cd.

So if thats xsvcd, then why can it play it if it couldnt play my other non standard svcds

I already explained it before and if you still don't get it, then you probably deserve what you think we think you are...

X/S/VCD is a non-standard disc which means it may or may not work. Do you understandard THAT? That means any particular disc MAY work, or it MAY NOT.

You've just found some non-standard settings that work on your player. You haven't found some holy grail that works for every player.

And stop calling your settings a NEW FORMAT. It is not a format.

Furthermore, stop calling them compliant as you most certainly cannot fit > 80 min of video on a REAL compliant VCD.

Furthermore, if you post ONE more time soliciting MONEY, I will personally see to it that you will be BANNED. If you want to SPAM, make your OWN website.

Regards.

[sean madison]

u say it doesnt work or hasnt been proven to work on every dvd player.

Well i got news for you.
19 dvd players so far have been confirmed, playable perfectly whose capabilities are standard only

[sean madison]

i have YET to get an email saying its not playable

[vitualis]

You've obviously missed the point and I've already showed you a player in my previous post where it DOESN'T work...

Unless your "VCD-X" template uses:
1. video: 1150 kbit/s CBR MPEG-1
2. audio: 224 kbit/s CBR MPEG-1 (stereo, 44.1 kHz, 16 bit)

+ muxing/padding/etc., all correct

It will not play on my stand-alone VCD player (remember, the original players designed to play VCDs) -- SAST AEP-627.

Furthermore, I doubt very much that any off-spec disc will play properly on a CD-i player either.

playable perfectly whose capabilities are standard only

When are you going to open your eyes? No player is designed to play XVCD or XSVCD as they are not standards. All you've done is prove that those players can play outside the standards NOT that your template is IN STANDARD.

Furthermore, I hope that you aren't going by the "DVD player compatibility list" here as to what can play what... If so, you lose all credibility completely.

Regards.

[adam]

ok then, if u think u know it all and im just retarded, explain this-

My parents have a samsung dvd\vcr combo

On vcdhelp, it strictly says vcd and svcd standard ONLY, no non standard formats.

Well, i tried out an xsvcd, sure enough it did not work.

With this new method, i can now watch NEW vcd and svcd standard movies as much as i have tested as long as 2 hr 26 min onto a single cd.

So if thats xsvcd, then why can it play it if it couldnt play my other non standard svcds

I already explained this to you in the other thread you started. I downloaded your sample which supposedly uses this new format. There is nothing non-standard about it. It is not an xsvcd, nor is it a new format, it is a regular svcd. The fact that it plays on people's dvd players only proves the obvious, that a svcd compatible dvd player will play a compliant svcd. All you did was use a very low bitrate. As I said before, not only is this nothing new but it is in fact something which most people will scoff at since video simply cannot look good using bitrates that low.

Your sample complied with the svcd standard so there was no reason for it to test compatibility on dvd players. The ONLY thing it should have tried to prove is that your "new format" can achieve an acceptable level of quality using such low bitrates. You said yourself that your sample was of low quality because quality was of no concern. You don't even understand what it is your trying to do so I hardly think you can charge people for your knowledge.

All your doing is reinventing the wheel here, but your really doing a pretty poor job of it.

[sean madison]

no, ur misleading yourself

"You said yourself that your sample was of low quality because quality was of no concern"

I said that cuz someone on vcdhelp wanted to test it and i didnt have no clips made ready at the time so i had to encode somethin that had already been encoded twice.

This also works for vcd as well and vcd does not use VBR so explain that one adam

[sean madison]

UPDATE, UPDATE-

My SVCD-X guide has now officially been tested and passed a Philips
CD-I player!! This is not a dvd player but a CD-i.

I will keep up the good work and keep ya up to date.

[vitualis]

Bullshit

Firstly CD-i players can't even decode MPEG-2...
Secondly, the CD-i app which must be included on a VCD does not play SVCDs of any sort.

This makes as much sense as me claiming that I've managed to make my tape player accept minidiscs.

Regards.

[vitualis]

This also works for vcd as well and vcd does not use VBR so explain that one adam

Before you post your completely repetitive crap, please read the previous explanations.

"All you've done is prove that those players can play outside the standards NOT that your template is IN STANDARD."

Regards.

[adam]

I said that cuz someone on vcdhelp wanted to test it and i didnt have no clips made ready at the time so i had to encode somethin that had already been encoded twice.

Hence quality is of no concern. You are arguing semantics here. Your sample clip tests compatibility and compability is not in question since your template produces a compliant svcd. Quality is the only thing in question and your sample clips does not even try to address it. I'll say it again, you don't even know what it is your template is trying to do.

This also works for vcd as well and vcd does not use VBR so explain that one adam

I already did. Read the post in the other thread, like I said I already explained all this to you. In the case of using mpeg1 in your template you will simply be creating an xvcd and it will NOT be guranteed to play on all dvd players. I searched through your links in the other thread and I have never seen a single sample using mpeg1. If you do post such a sample I can guarantee that it will not play correctly on at least some dvd players and probably all vcd players.

Post a sample using mpeg1 and allow others to test it on their players for compatibility. Post a sample using mpeg2 in which you fit the 2+ hrs you claim but show that an acceptable level of quality is still achieved. Until you do this you have proven nothing.

[sean madison]

Virtualis, i was over the persons hosue when it happened.

The Lord of the Rings SVCD Standard works on his CD-I philips player.

I dont have to have proof unless u want me to take a picture of his tv too since everything has to be proven around here now drastically.

He has a philips CD-I player that is a few yrs old.

[sean madison]

and NO, the dvd player canNOT play outside of standard cuz if it could, it could play my xvcds and my xsvcds.

If the dvd player could play them, i would have never thought about making the guide.

Its not non standard. If it was that dvd player wouldnt play em cuz i HAVE HAVE HAVE tested non standard movies on there, those do NOT work. This new method DOES WORK.

Nero accepts as standard, dvd player accepts as standard, the MPEG Stream is Standard!. therefore, its standard.

IF u say its not standard cuz i dont use the specified bitrate, you gotta be jokin me.

This is not the SAME standard as u or many of you are used too.
This is not non standard either or it would not play in this dvd player cuz my x(s)vcds do NOT work in it.
This is a new median of mpg that is more compatible and more enjoyable than the "old" standards

[Routine]

Holy shit!! This is great!! carry on guys.