ms dv

[zoobie]

I've been happily using my datavideo dac-100 to transfer hi8 to dv using the ms codec...
Now I just read here that "of course converting it first to ms dv will kill all quality .. "
What's a better solution?
Suggestions?
Thx

[jimmalenko]

Panasonic DV Codec
Canopus DV Codec

[zoobie]

ahh...i've already got the panasonic codec but i guess i didn't install it...thanks man

[edDV]

Now I just read here that "of course converting it first to ms dv will kill all quality .. "

Whoever said that needs to explain why that might be the case. MS DV is the "Chevy" of DV codecs but DV is a standard and if MS DVD doesn't meet spec, we all need to know why.

It would be interesting to see a pro-con on DV codecs.

[jimmalenko]

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1378617#1378617

of course converting it first to ms dv will kill all quality ..

a direct conversion is a much better choice and can be done in many apps

In the context of the thread, I think it was more tongue-in-cheek than anything to take too much notice of.

[zoobie]

oic...a direct conversion to the final format i guess...sure...the less converting, the better i suppose.
Well, i'm just about to get serious so I'll start with the pana codec

in your opinion...is there any codec worth actually buying for:
hi8=>dv/avi
hi8=>dv=>dvd
hi8=>dv=>wmv
or that's a good bargain for the $?
thx

[junkmalle]

I've been happily using my datavideo dac-100 to transfer hi8 to dv using the ms codec...

You are not using the MS DV codec to capture from the dac-100 -- the dac-100 is doing the compression. The MS codec, or whatever other one you are using, is only used to decode the DV data for display or conversion.

[zoobie]

ic...the dac-100 is using it's own dv codec...it's a done deal. The time when the panasonic or even mainconcept codec is used in my case is in editing, rendering, and displaying...right?
thanks

PS - You'll have to forgive my ignorance...I html, php, javascript, and css too much...heh heh

[edDV]

-- the dac-100 is doing the compression. The MS codec, or whatever other one you are using, is only used to decode the DV data for display or conversion.

Yes it is. Think of the DV transcoders as similar to the hardware MPeg2 encoders but 2-way in many cases. The DAC-100, Canopus ADVC, etc. hardware decode NTSC or PAL to YUV, filters and performs A/D plus compression in the DV format and then realtime transfers to IEEE-1394.

DV camcorders do the same thing but have bi-directional hardware (as do transcoders like the ADVC-100/110) that allows realtime hardware decoding for TV playback display. The DV hardware decoder is also used for realtime TV Prviewing over IEEE-1394 from pro DV editing programs like Premiere Pro, FCP and Vegas.