MP4 files -> DVD ????

[rasinton]

I've just downloaded a few video clips, which are .MP4 files, and would like to put them all on to one DVD.

I tried to use TMPGEnc Plus 2.5, but, it didn't want to know! (once selected, it just spent ages tring to open the file - showing no signs of succeeding!)

Can anyone suggest a good, reliable program/method for converting them to a format I can use to burn to a DVD (I normally use TMPGEnc DVD Author to create the VIDEO_TS folder and contents, prior to burning)

Thanks!

[Baldrick]

Doesn't tmpgenc plus support mp4 if you install the haali media splitter? and you might need some video codecs also. and try change the directshow priority.

[Baldrick]

or just use mp4ui and export the video(to avi) and audio(to mp3,aac...).

[Cornucopia]

Once exported to AVI, if it still doesn't read correctly, use fourcc to change its id to divx or something similar. then it will probably read fine.

Scott

[rasinton]

or just use mp4ui and export the video(to avi) and audio(to mp3,aac...).

Tried MP4UI with mixed success! I exported the video to .avi and the audio to .aac.

Then I used them as input to TMGEnc Plus so that I could cvreate DVD compatible files.

The first one I did was OK, but, the next 2 weren't! The .avi and .aac files seem OK, play fine and are the right size. However, TMPGEnc Plus seems to think it is going to create huge files (8 GB for a 10 minute clip!!!!!!)

Any ideas what is going on?

Thanks!

PS. Installing the Haali Media Splitter didn't seem to make any difference!

[Cornucopia]

MP4 file-->Quicktime Pro-->AVI file (uncompressed or DV)-->TMPGEnc

May want to do a pass of audio (lpcm wav) separate from video if you need to do any Normalizing/Filtering etc.

It's worth the $29.

Scott

[Baldrick]

convert the aac to wav and use in tmpgenc. try dbpoweramp.

[celtic_druid]

Quicktime (at least 6.5) only supports SP MPEG4 and lc aac. No ASP/AVC video and no he aac audio.

If you want something easy, VSO's DivX2DVD should work.

[Baldrick]

divx2dvd crashes when I open mp4.

how about nerovision express?

[Baldrick]

yep, nerovision express can import mp4. just tested it. but don't know it if supports aac audio.

[Cornucopia]

Quicktime (at least 6.5) only supports SP MPEG4 and lc aac. No ASP/AVC video and no he aac audio.

If you want something easy, VSO's DivX2DVD should work.

QT (up to 6.5.4) only supports MPEG4_SP using Apple's MPEG4. If you get the 3ivX plugin (free), it will encode and decode ASP. AVC/H264 won't be available until QT7. Haven't seen much about he_aac (so not too worried about it yet).

2 downloads/installs, 1 payment, open the file, export and then you work like normal in TMPGEnc, sounds easy to me!

Scott

[celtic_druid]

Yeah it supports ASP in .mov via 3ivX, but it still only supports SP in mp4 which is what this thread is about.

[Cornucopia]

MP4 file can contain SP or ASP, etc. MP4 is the container format. Can be generated by QT or by other muxers (e.g. Philips, Envivo). Can be read/decoded by QT or other demuxer/readers. OP wanted to know a way to convert, in a reliable and straightforward manner, MP4 file (with un-named contents) to AVI/MPEG for DVD use. I gave him a reasonable, fairly cheap and no brainer solution-nothing more, nothing less.

Scott

[celtic_druid]

mp4 files can contain, SP, ASP, AVC, vorbis, theora and pretty much anything else as private streams.

I am just trying to point out that Quicktime only supports SP mp4's even with 3ivX installed. For instance if you mux a ASP file to mp4 via 3ivX's dshow muxer it won't work. If you mux to .mov it will.

It also can't handle he aac audio properly. Not sure if 3ivX helps in that regard or not.

[Cornucopia]

Wow, you're right. Mp4 container option doesn't let you. My apologies. Man, QT better clean up their act soon with v7 or they're gonna get left behind!

Scott

[celtic_druid]

They have been behind for ages. Their mp4 implimentation was crap when they released it and it is still crap. Their AVC encoder from what I hear is also crap.

[winifreid]

Is QT the only program that can used o view an mp4 file? Are there others? I downloaded some mp4 files from www.archive.org and they are all 264k mp4 files. I wonder if the quality will be exceptable. Thye indicate that they used a good method to encode, but the bitrate might be too low regardless.

[celtic_druid]

Definatly not. mplayer, VLC, osmo4, mpeg4ip player, etc. all support mp4 playback as can any dshow based if you have the right filters installed.

Some mp4 splitters: haali's mkv/mp4/avi splitter (apparently recent versions have a bug that effects HP AVC), Moonlights, 3ivX's (plublic version doesn't support AVC) or Nero Digitals.

There are numerous decoders for audio and video, especially ASP MPEG 4 video. ffdshow can decode aac, ASP and AVC.

[sanjayk]

I recently loaded Haali Media Splitter & ffdshow on my system and were able to play MP4 files in MPC as well as Nero Showtime.

I was also able to convert it to MPEG2 using TMPGenc. Only thing is TMPGEnc did not recognise the AAC audio in MP4. So I extracted the audio to wav using Goldwave and used the extracted audio as the audio stream. For the video stream I used the original MP4 file.

[winifreid]

Thanks, I just installed vlc and I can see the video, but no audio. Any ideas? It may not be worth too much more trouble because the video is full of macro blocks even at small screen size. I wonder why they would distribute files like this? They do provide mpeg2 files that look fine, but why convert to mp4 if they are unviewable. Is there a chance it would look better in QT? It seemed like when I first visited archive.org, they used xvid, but no longer. Wouldn't that be a better codec?

[celtic_druid]

Who says that they don't use XviD? Although for Quicktine compatiblity you can't use ASP features. Odd that the audio doesn't work. I would have thought that they would use aac and VLC definatly supports that.

Ok, audio at least on the 64k one is MPEG-4 Audio AAC LC - 2 Channel(s) - SampleRate 48000.

Ok, audio is the same in the other stream. Looks like the same bitrate and everything.

Both play fine via mplayer and Media Player Classic (haali's splitter and ffdshow0 here.

[winifreid]

I don't see any xvid in the feature film section. It might be that I don't have a codec for the audio. Does vlc come with everything I need?

[winifreid]

Well, it turns out that vlc broke my winamp. I get sound from programs like PVR and PowerDVD, but not from VLC or winamp. Help.

[winifreid]

My bad. VLC must have turned down the volume on the wave/mp3. Weird.

[celtic_druid]

With mp4, no destinction is made with the video codec, you could use XviD, DivX or any other MPEG4 video codec. Probably they did just use Quicktime though, which is unfortunate as it is probably one of the worst MPEG4 video codecs out there.