My VCD(S) I burn look like crap

[Majin Muyo]

When I burn a disc, it looks like crap. The quality lowers like hell. Why is this happening?

[Beretta]

We are psychic?

How about providing us with some info. Like...

1. What format are the original AVI files in? (if applicable)
2. What resoultion are they?
3. What OS are you using?
4. What program are you using to convert them to MPEG?
5. What are you playing the discs back on? (PC/MAC/Stand-Alone DVD/VCD player)
6. If using TMPGEnc, what template are you using?

Provide us with that information and it'll be possible to perhaps help. As it stands, you have given no info, and thus there is no way to help you.

Oh. Need this info too..

7. what program are you using to burn the CD's
8. What type of media are you using? (CD-R or CD-RW)

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Beretta on 2001-10-23 22:47:31 ]</font>

[Majin Muyo]

One is an MPEG-1 352x240 NTSC 2.40 bit/sec
other is an MPEG-2 640x240 NTSC 2.00 Mbit/sec

my os is windows 98 second edition. I used Nero 5.0 and VCD Imager Easy. I used WinDVD to test it out, I don't own a DVD player except for a crappy PS2. I burned to a FujiFilm CD-R 80min/700mb.

Everything worked fine,only problem is the picture quality.
I burned the mpeg2 to an svcd and mpeg1 to a vcd. used the other program, and picture quality was exactly the same.

My dad wants to burn shows/movies from tv and put them to VCDs/SVCDs. So I'm not breaking my ass converting files or anything. just a simple capture-burn

[Bong]

What capture card are you using? What do the captures look like?

[Majin Muyo]

I'm using an All in Wonder Radeon.
Captures look really good. Looks better then an average VCD or at least I think so.. I dunno, I only saw 2 VCDs in life.

[Im[CuRsED]]

Im really not to sure what the problem could be..One question i have is since u dont have a dvd player then y do u want them in vcd format so badily? Cuz there r better formats for quality/MB....what is exactly wrong with the quality? Is it blocky or grainy? Is it crappy at certain parts or all the way throughout the vcd? If the capture is good and u can view it on ur computer showing it is good then there cannot be anything wrong with the capture...good luck

[Majin Muyo]

im getting a dvd player soon. I need to make many copies of the vcds

and the entire movie is just seriously grainy

[holistic]

[quote]
On 2001-10-23 22:46:08, Beretta wrote:
We are psychic?

rotfl
..O! i just love this place ........... puts a smile on my face daily.

[ebaldino]

My AIW will not capture directly to mpeg with any reasonable quality. Are you sure you are getting good quality in the capture? Are you capturing at least 352x240 and playing it back full screen?

Once you have a good quality mpeg, putting it on a CD and playing on a dvd player is easy. The hard part is getting the good quality mpeg. I have to capture in AVI and then encode to mpeg... but the final result *looks* every bit as good as the source avi file...

rgds
E.Baldino

[Majin Muyo]

I can't capture high quality stuff. The best capture I can get for mpeg2 without any screw ups is the "longest time" settings. Which is acually the lowest. I view ALL of my captures at full screen, and I even hook it to my tv just to make sure it would look good on tv. People say its cause my computer sucks. I get the best top of the line Dell computer back at 2000 (Pentium3 500ram geforce1 1.0ghz etc)and people called my computer God, now people call it crap and put me down to shame with their upgrades and at a lower price. Oh don't you just love technology??????!!!!!
When i capture with a setting any higher i see a frame show. Especially with Best quality and AVI settings.
Should I just get a new computer? Believe it or not but my dad is really willing to buy a new one even though he spent over 5000 dollars on something thats still very decent. He really wants to record shows, plus I wanna put anime on SVCD/VCD.
I wanna buy a computer off the internet cause Dell overcharges like crazy. But my dad dosn't trust those guys. Are they reliable anyways? Did anyone buy cheap good computers off the internet? Tell me if it's worth it.

[mikewg]

Your computer is fine, I think it's the AIW software that is screwing you up. Get VirtualDub, you might have to downgrade your drivers to get it to work... capture the shows directly to AVI, then convert the AVI to MPG. I have an ATI AIW, going from AVI to MPG is a million times better than capturing directly to MPG.

[Majin Muyo]

I tried converting the AVI to an mpg, it just makes it less of a slide show.
I'm gonna try capturing at best quality cause the slide show isin't that bad, then convert.
Also, when you burn to a vcd/svcd it makes it even less of a slide show. thats 2x the fix

[Majin Muyo]

Wait acually the best quality settings is terrible. Turns out the best I can do is the medium setting which is acually damn good.

capturing is definetly not the problem, i just wanna burn svcds without screwing the picture

[markm]

If you're capturing to mpeg, and you play that mpeg back and are happy with the quality, then the quality from the VCD will be the same.

You're using Nero to make the CD, are you telling Nero to re-encode the files? If Nero finds a file that's not compliant, it gives you the option to re-encode it. The end mpeg won't be the same quality.

I suspect you're letting Nero encode it a 2nd time. Instead, try telling Nero to turn off compliance check and burn it as it. The resulting VCD *may* not play in a DVD player, but one step at a time, figure out where the quality goes bad first.

[Majin Muyo]

Woaaaaah I found out the problem. WinDVD was the problem. I tested the files with Windows Media Player and they were in perfect quality. WinDVD was messing it up all along. I assume it will play better on any other dvd player software/hardware

[corwin1]

First of all who ever says your PC is crap (based on your specs) is just plain jealous or stupid/envious. I have a similar Dell and it works just fine for making VCD and SVCD. Second, never assume the dvd player will play the VCD/SVCD. Check the DVD compatibility chart on this site to make sure you get a good one. personally I reccomend Pioneer DV343. it plays compliant and non compliant VCD/SVCD on all types of blank CD-R's.

[Majin Muyo]

Though I wanna capture in high settings. and this site said that I need a good CPU. Then I heard from someone else that I'd have to get many upgrades that equals as much as getting a computer hence i'd have to buy a new computer. My dad is willing to do that, but do i really have to get a new computer???

Plus, I want a DVD burner. One of those good Pioneer ones.