Problem burning video converted to MPEG from AVI

[Wetling]

I have several AVI files (that I didn't create) and several MPEG1 files (that I did created) I wanted to convert the AVIs to VCDs so I followed the instructions in this guide to get the AC3 audio into WAV. Then I took the AVI and WAV files into TMEGEnc to convert them to MPEG1s. Success!

However, when I follow the directions in this guide, the former AVI files take up 1-2GBs of space as opposed to the 420-440MB that the files I originally created take up.

Why is this and how do I fix it?

Thanks.

[Wetling]

Still wondering.

[Conquest10]

why do you have two avis?

[Conquest10]

the sizes of the avis DO NOT dictate the size of the mpg. it doesn't matter what the size of the avi is in the end.

[Wetling]

Okay, maybe I'm not being clear. Let me try again.

Lets say I have two files, File1.avi and File1.mpg

File1.avi is a file I downloaded (a TV show) and is 350MB. File1.mpg is a file I created (the same TV show) and is about 420MB (like all other files I've created of this show).

As I stated above, I followed to guide from this site to extract the AC3 audio from File1.avi so can turn it into File2.mpg. After performing the necessary conversions. I have File2.mpg that is about 420MB as reported by Windows.

However, when I use Ulead's DVD MovieFactory to try to burn File2.mpg, it is reported as being about 1.5GB, while File1.mpg is reported as being about 420MB.

Why? How do I fix this?

[Conquest10]

where did file 2 come from?

[Wetling]

File2.mpg was the created by converting File1.avi using this guide.

[Conquest10]

so what is file1.mpg?

[Conquest10]

how long is file1.avi? what bitrate are you using for file2.mpg?

[Wetling]

File1.mpg is just a file used for reference. It is a 420MB (approx) MPEG1 file that runs about 43 minutes.

File1.avi is a file, that when converted to MPEG1 should be about 420MB and runs about 43 minutes.

As I have stated, I'm using THIS guide to convert File1.avi to File2.mpg. If you don't want to have a look at that, the average video bit rate is set at 1150 and the audio rate is 224.

[Conquest10]

i already told you. the size of the avi doesn't matter. the length is more important. the mpg for 43 minutes should be 430 MB. are you using tmpgenc 2.59?

[Vejita-sama]

I think I've got it. To be sure answer these questions:

1) What happens when you play file1.mpg in windows media player?
(picture and sound, correct runtime, etc)

2) What happens when you play file2.mpg in windows media player?
(picture and sound, correct runtime, etc)

3) What is the runtime of your source avi/file1.avi?

4) Would you be happy if you could get file1.mpg onto a VCD?

Let us know that and we should be able to fix everything else

[Wetling]

i already told you. the size of the avi doesn't matter. the length is more important. the mpg for 43 minutes should be 430 MB. are you using tmpgenc 2.59?

I know the size of File1.avi isn't important, that's why I didn't give it to you, and no, I'm using 2.50.

[Wetling]

I think I've got it. To be sure answer these questions:

1) What happens when you play file1.mpg in windows media player?
(picture and sound, correct runtime, etc)

File1.mpg plays fine in WMP.

2) What happens when you play file2.mpg in windows media player?
(picture and sound, correct runtime, etc)

File2.mpg plays fine in WMP

3) What is the runtime of your source avi/file1.avi?

I assume you mean, where did it come from? I downloaded it (this isn't a movie so I'm not breaking any copyright laws) from someone who recorded the original program and encoded it as an AVI.

4) Would you be happy if you could get file1.mpg onto a VCD?

Actually, I'm trying to burn a DVD full of VCDs (MPEG1 files). It's worked in the past where I was the original creator of the files to be burned, but since I didn't created File1.avi, I need to turn it into an MPEG before it can be burned.

I'm using Ulead DVD MovieFactory 2, but the files that were converted, although they appear to be the correct file size (as reported by Windows) are taking up three to four times as much space on the DVD as the files I originally created myself.

To put it another way. After converting File1.avi to File2.mpg, File2.mpg and File1.mpg both appear to be about 43 minutes and 420MB (as they should be). However, if I was to burn just these two files to a DVD, I would be taking up about 2.4GB of the DVD instead the 840MB one would expect, due to the fact that MovieFactory wants to use about 2GB for File2.mpg and about 420MB for File1.mpg.

[ukcalibrauk]

Seems to be difficult getting your point across

I think I have a similar problem...I used TMPGenc to convert an AVI (DIVX) file to MPG1 original file 715MB final size (MPG1) 1225MB the movie is 1Hour 59 minutes long So I guess it wont fit on a VCD single cd anyway

Good Luck

[Wetling]

Let's try again.

[Conquest10]

ok. what are the settings you're using?

[corob4]

Seems to be difficult getting your point across

I think I have a similar problem...I used TMPGenc to convert an AVI (DIVX) file to MPG1 original file 715MB final size (MPG1) 1225MB the movie is 1Hour 59 minutes long So I guess it wont fit on a VCD single cd anyway

Good Luck

...............................
you will need to cut the avi file into atleast two vcd files. there are guides to puting it on one cd here but i dont know about the quality(i havent tryed them personally)
if you open tmpeg> choose the template you want to use vcd/svcd or make your own. click next
load the avi file> click next
at the top you will see Source range >check that and another window will open.
here is where you can split the encodeing with out cuting your orginal avi
click start point at start of film > go about half the movie and click > set end point
then next , now you will get a bitrate page that will tell you if it will fit or not. if it does click > next and encode.
you can click batch encode and do the other half of the film, just set your start point were the first one ended. and to the end of the film
when you get back to the bitrate make sure this one fits and change from batch to start now.
leave it overningt and you should have two seprate vcd/svcd files you can burn to cd and watch on your dvd player.

this how to will explain better and with pictures
https://www.videohelp.com/tmpgencsvcd.htm

[Conquest10]

Seems to be difficult getting your point across

I think I have a similar problem...I used TMPGenc to convert an AVI (DIVX) file to MPG1 original file 715MB final size (MPG1) 1225MB the movie is 1Hour 59 minutes long So I guess it wont fit on a VCD single cd anyway

Good Luck

the size of the original does not matter. anyhow, you didn't really think you could fit 119 minutes at vcd bitrate on a 80 minute disc did you?

[Wetling]

you will need to cut the avi file into atleast two vcd files.

No I don't. I'm not doing anything with the AVI file except converting it to an MPEG.

there are guides to puting it on one cd here...

I'm not burning to a CD. As I've stated, I'm burning these MPEG files in VCD format to a DVD. This whole question came up because I tried using one of the guieds on this site and got unexpected results.

ok. what are the settings you're using?

For which program? I hope you're not asking about TMPGEnc because I've already provided that information several times.

you didn't really think you could fit 119 minutes at vcd bitrate on a 80 minute disc did you?

What makes you think I have 119 minutes of video? I said I have TWO files I want to burn. They are 43 minutes each, there's no way to get 119 from 43 + 43. And even if you thought I was going to burn the AVI and two MPEGs, that's still not 119, it's 129. Not that it matters, since I'm using a DVD on to which I have previously burned 387+ minutes of video.

[Conquest10]

if you read before you opened up your mouth you would have seen that i was not talking to you wetling. and if that is how you're going to answer to people who try to help you, why don't you just find the solution yourself.

[Wetling]

if you read before you opened up your mouth...and if that is how you're going to answer to people who try to help you, why don't you just find the solution yourself.

Hahahaha

You're the one who's apprently not reading and you have not helped at all. You just keep repeating yourself.

Out of a total of seven posts (not including your last one), you have said the following:

The size of the AVI/original files doesn't matter - 3 times
What settings are you using - 2 times

You've also asked a couple of apparently irrelevant questions and ignored the answers:

Why do you have 2 AVI's?
Where did file 2 come from?

If you actually have something useful to add, then I invite you to do so. If not, then please, stop posting. To everyone else who's actually provided suggestions, I appreciate your comments, but they don't address the issue of why File2.mpg is reported as being two different sizes.

[Laddydaddy]

Wetling,
You say that you have two avi files that are about 420MB each in size. That's a total of 840MB. If I'm not mistaken you then say you are trying to burn both files on to one DVD using Ulead movie factory v2.0. The problem is the program reports the file size as 2.4G instead of 840MB. It sounds like Ulead is transcoding your videos and inflating the size. If I'm not mistaken other people have posted on this forum with similar problems. Do a search on the forums for Ulead movie factory 2 and see what others have to say about it. I use version 1 so I have not paid much attention to their solutions. I can also say that if you created file1.mpg and file2.mpg the same way using the same settings it wouldn't matter what your source file is, you should get the same results. If you have anymore info you can give us please do so. If there is a difference in how file1.mpg and file2.mpg were made let us know.

[Wetling]

Actually, I have one AVI file that I'm converting to MPEG. After this conversion, Ulead inflates the size (but Windows doesn't).

My two MPEG files (File2.mpg - formerly File1.avi and File1.mpg) were not created in the exact same method.

I took an uncompressed AVI (a several gig file), cut out the commercials using Pinnalce Studio, and created an MPEG file using their template for VCDs (352x240, 1150kbps, 44kHz). The resulting file is File1.mpg and is a 43 minute, 420MB MPEG1 file.

Someone else created File1.avi so I used guides from this site to convert from AVI to MPEG (including using the VCD template in TMPGEnc) so I'd only be burning MPEG files. The thing is, that it appears I'm getting the same results when I check the file properties in Windows (both MPEG files are reported as being 420MB), Ulead is just not agreeing.

I'll do a search.