1 Disc SVCD

[psycobob]

Hi all is it poss to make a single disc SVCD without making a xsvcd as my player dont play em

alba dvd108


thanx in advance and also does someone have 100% settings for nt getting any jittering, stuttering, jumpy svcds as some of mines do this no matter what i try but the divx / avis r stunning quality. they do it on the pc without being burnt to disc.

cheers psy

[jkl]

just keep your total bitrate(audio and video) below 2700 kb/sec

[VirtualAdept]

Use some bitrate calculator like FitCD to calculate the correct bitrate for 1 CD.

[ralfbeckers]

I have done this once. The average bitrate has to be kept in the three digit range. I encoded End of Days and the result was nasty. I wouldn't recommend this to anyone. Anyhow, the disc is technically SVCD compatible.

Ralf

[therick]

I second what ralfbeckers has to say about SVCDs on one disc.

I would suggest that if you want a movie on one disc you try VCD using TMPEGEnc's CQ mode. Check out kwag's site for more info, I think that he has some templates to fit a whole movie on one CD. I have done this with VCD and the result is watchable. It is around VHS quality, but it is watchable.

[Deusxmachina]

I sometimes put 90+ minutes on one SVCD, and they can look just fine on a big TV. I just use the standard TMPG SVCD film template. Nothing fancy. Usually the audio has to be dropped to 128 or so to get an extra 100 megs free for better video. If the material is in 2.35 aspect, you're often all set, and if it's 1.85 you can still do it sometimes. If there's a ton of action, then no way it will fit, but for most typical things, drop the audio to 128, cap the max bitrate at 1700 or 1800 if you have to, (for one CD, don't bother setting it above 2000 'cause it won't fit, or the non-action scenes will look like crap), and you should be good to go most of the time.

I'm starting to do this more and more, but for most things I don't like the audio that low, and then at 224 I get caught with a little less video quality than I like, so it varies when I can do it. For SVCD, capping the max bitrate seems to be a big key. I did some recent tests again on Merlin in 4:3 aspect, and with a max of 1700 on a 50" screen, having ten guys running around the screen attacking a castle wasn't bad at all and the macroblocks only lasted a moment. Was really no big deal, and then the other 98% of the video looks very good. Give it a try and see for yourself. I just put BladeRunner (like 110 minutes or something) on one disc with 128 audio and it looks more than just fine. If something is 2.35 aspect, it can be pretty easy.

I use Bearson's bitrate calculator for quick fitting estimates when using two-pass. Nails it basically every time and is easy to use. I use cq mode more than anything now, but that takes a little more feel than using two-pass. If you don't mind longer encoding time, use a bitrate calculator and 2-pass. And if you want to make things super easy and max out a disc (if doing a DVD), use DVD2SVCD and change the "how many CDs for how many minutes" section to make it put it all on one disc, and then it will fill the disc up to the limit on its own. Remember to cap the max bitrate, though. I'm still surprised at how good the action in Merlin looked with a cap of 1700. And in 4:3 format, too.

Now that DVD2SVCD uses TMPG, I'm starting to really like using it for some things. For most stuff, I use TMPG on its own in cq mode, but when I have time or am lazy, and especially when I want to put something on one disc, I just take a few minutes to set up DVD2SVCD and let 'er go. And the thing does perfect (permanent) subtitles when needed. Good stuff.