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  1. If i put movies on a 3.95GB DVD-R and burn it with Nero 5.5, will it play on my DVD player ( Phillips 701)????
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    i believe my old dvd player was the philips 701..

    man that thing was bogus. the only cool thing about it was the little blue LED.

    don't get a dvd-r drive yet.

    this fall everyone will be introducing dvd+rw, which WILL be compatible with most all existing dvd rom/players
    THIS IS HARDCORE
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  3. Neither Nero 5.5 nor Easy CD Creator support DVD Authoring of any kind at the moment. Don't be surprised of both packages do by Christmas though.

    If you buy the Pioneer DVR-A03 DVD writer it comes with a slightly enhanced version of MyDVD which allows you to create DVD Video discs and also support chapters which the standard version doesn't.

    The Panasonic drive apparently also has DVD Video authoring software but theirs doesn't support chapters.

    Whether or not they will play on your Philips 701 depends on it's age. All standalone DVD Video players made within the last 18 months or so generally do but if yours is older than that it may or may not work. Best bet would be to email Philips and ask them, or ask someone with a DVD-R writer to create a test disk for you (but as DVD-R media is still expensive expect your friend to ask you for some cash!!).

    DVD+R and +RW are still not 100% compatible with all players either and again, it will be a question of trying it out to see if it works. The +R/RW camp are trying to talk up their product because the other major formats are already shipping and they are not.

    As I have said in another thread, if you want DVD authoring now it's DVD-R if you want to wait and see what happens thats fine too. Me, I took the plunge and love my Pioneer DVR-A03.
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    And then they are talking about DVD+R.


    Now I'm confused about this. How many formats do we have now?

    DVD-R
    DVD-RW
    DVD+RW
    DVD+R

    What do the "+" and "-" mean anyway?

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    On 2001-08-05 09:59:22, Greg12 wrote:
    And then they are talking about DVD+R.


    Now I'm confused about this. How many formats do we have now?

    DVD-R
    DVD-RW
    DVD+RW
    DVD+R

    What do the "+" and "-" mean anyway?


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    Altogether there are 6 standards to date: the 4 mentioned above and DVD-RAM and DVD-ROM. I would advise you to read the Q&A section of http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html
    which gives you a unique insight to DVD's in general.

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  6. Available format today are:
    DVD-Video: the commercail movie pressed on DVD
    DVD-R: like a CD-R, you can burn today with a Pioneer DVR-A03. Good resource there: http://www.labdv.com/forums/phpBB/viewforum.php?forum=15&11
    DVD-RW: burnt with DVR-A03, brand new, very few info
    DVD+R/RW: very promissing, will be in HP, Dell and other fall 2001, good resource: http://www.dvdplusrw.org/

    Maybe the killing page:
    http://www.dvdplusrw.org/video/comparison.html

    Léon
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  7. There's a lot of confusion about the different DVD recording standards out there, so here's a basic rundown for anyone interested. This information was obtained from numerous sources, including Philips, Pioneer, Sony, DVD Forum websites etc. as well as magazines.

    DVD-Video:
    As Leon mentions, this is the standard for DVD-Video and is what plays on your stand alone player or DVD-ROM drive. Discs are pressed in large plants much like CDs.

    DVD-RAM:
    This was the first re-recordable standard onto the market and is part of the DVD specification too having been ratified by the DVD forum. However, it was orginally designed as a rewriteable medium for computers. The discs are usually housed in a plastic caddy to protect them from dirt and dust (although some manufacturers make discs without caddies just to confuse matters). DVD-RAM has been around for a couple of years and writers and blanks are cheap. The main problem here is that DVD-RAM discs cannot be read by any current stand alone DVD player. A couple of companies are working on DVD-RAM video recorders to be released in a couple of months but this is the rewriteable format most likely to fail.

    DVD-R/RW:
    Two slightly different formats ratified by the DVD forum and now part of the DVD specifications. DVD-R is a write once medium that works in much the same was as CD-R. DVD-R is compatible with pretty much every DVD video player made in the last 18 months but older or cheaper machines may not play these discs. DVD-RW is the rewriteable version (although it's technically very different). DVD-RW is less compatible than DVD-R but again, pretty much any player of the last year or so should work fine.

    DVD-R/RW is supported by the most hardware manufacturers including almost all of the big electrical manufacturers such as Pioneer, Panasonic (who also support DVD-RAM), Yamaha, Sony, Samsung etc. It is also supported so far by Compaq, Packard Bell and Apple in the PC markets.

    This is the format most likely to succeed simply because of the sheer weight of companies behind it and the fact it's fully ratified by the DVD forum.

    DVD+R/RW:
    DVD+RW is a Philips proprietry format. It is NOT supported by any of the other big audio/visual hardware manufacturers but is supported by a couple of PC companies, most noteably Hewlett Packard and soon Dell.

    The DVD+RW format is pretty similar to DVD-RW but different enough to be completely incompatible with it. DVD+RW is NOT recognised as a valid format by the DVD forum who police the DVD standards worldwide. That doesn't mean it will fail however but then again, anyone remember the other Philips proprietry recording format of V2000?. Personally I think this is the format most likely to fail simply because all the other big companies are behind DVD-RW.

    Philips have just launched and DVD+RW recorder in the European market this month however, it will NOT play DVD+R discs but strangely, will play DVD-R hmmm

    DVD+R is again a write once format similar to DVD-R but once again it's a Philips proprietry format not supported by other manufacturers. It also isn't yet available on any drive PC or stand alone.

    So, some pros and cons:

    DVD-RAM
    Pros:
    Cheap. Available now. Higher capacity than the other two rewriteable formats. Hardwearing discs housed in a protective caddy. Can be rewritten thousands of times. Very high bitrate (22.16Mps which could translate into stunning picture quality on the Panasonic DVD video recorder due soon).
    Cons:
    Cannot be played by any current stand alone DVD player. Not supported by the large audio/video companies although Panasonic have announced a DVD-RAM video recorder by Christmas.

    DVD-R/RW:
    Pros:
    Available now for PC use. Compatible with the majority of stand alone DVD players (but not all). Supported by all the big manufacturers except Philips. Has a higher maximum bitrate than DVD+RW which should translate to better picture quality (maximum of 11.08Mps on the forthcoming Pioneer DVR7000 as opposed to 9.72Mps on the newly launched Philips DVDR1000). First on the PC market and first on the DVD video recorder market in Japan(although will be last in Europe not being launched until November this year).
    Cons:
    Less compatible with current DVD players than DVD+RW. No DVD-RW stand alone video recorders available outside Japan (but they are due to be launched in Europe in November).

    DVD+R/RW:
    Pros:
    Supposedly the Philips DVD+RW video recorder just launched is incredibly easy to use. Compatible with more current stand alone DVD video players than DVD-RW.
    Cons:
    Not as widely supported as DVD-RW as it's a Philips proprietry format. Not supported or ratified by the DVD forum.

    So, like I said before, my money is still on DVD-R/RW but I could be wrong, CD was orginally a Philips proprietry invention until they licenced it worldwide and look what happened there.

    If you want the best of all worlds wait until Sony launch their newly announced stand alone DVD Video recorder. Apparently it will support DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R & DVD+RW. Nothing like being prepared.

    By the way, those are my opinions, other people will have their own take on it.
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