can i burn a 809mb onto a 80min cdr as vcd

[hippy74]

can anyone tell me im getting insomnia and want to burn it as vcd but i see that the movie is 809mb can this fit into one 80min cdr

your help is needed here

thanks

joe

[MaDmiZe]

Chances are... NO
If its already a VCD compliant MPG, RE-encode using lower bitrate and about 750 to 760 will fit... but not 809mb unless your really good.

[MOVIEGEEK]

hippy74,
The minutes are more important than size.Most cd burners can go to
82 min.,some(Cyberdrive,Lite-on,etc.)can burn 99 min.Select "over-burn"
in Nero or NTI CD-Maker(test with a cd-r/w).

[Rigo]

this guide show how to fit more than 700mb in one cd,I recorded 735mb in a 700mb cd and works fine...

go here:

http://forum.vcdhelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=84759

[MaDmiZe]

Gues that I should of posted my whole spil to begin with:
Size does matter......
I wastold that a 80 minute cdr will hold 800 mb... but your burner must support overburning. (mines cheap and does)
But the largest movie I've personally done on a 80 min 700 mb CDR was 762 mb. Now I just tweak the encoding (using TMPGe) till my movies (some as long as 2 hours) are smaller than that and burn to one disk (Using NERO).

[e-z-e]

Since you said your burner supports overburning all you have to do is check the box in Nero that allows overburning and burn it to a CD. You can fit up to 820 MB if your CD-r and hardware support it.

[PimpInDaHouse]

SVCD goes by size about 800mb for a 800mb CD, VCD goes by how many minutes the movie is 80-82min. for a 80min. CD.

[HillJack]

I wastold that a 80 minute cdr will hold 800 mb... but your burner must support overburning. (mines cheap and does)

Wrong. an 80 minute CD will hold 807mb in mode 2, which is how a vcd is burned by default. anything more than 807mb THEN you are overburning.

@hippy74,
You need to check how many blocks your 80 min cd-r has. multiply that by 2352 and compare the answer with the exact size of your mpg you want to burn. if its less, then you will be overburning. if its more, then your fine, just burn it as normal.

[vitualis]

Actually, for VCD, it is closer to 796 MB max size (without overburning). Although the MODE2 Form2 sector size is 2352 bytes/sector, for S/VCD, you only get 2324 bytes/sector of user data.

You can do the maths yourself...
80 min x 60 sec/min x 75 sectors/sec x 2324 bytes/sector = 797.9 Mb

Then you have to take into account of the overhead:
- most 80min media are actually reported as a few seconds less (e.g., 79:57)
- the first logical track is at a minimum 6 seconds long
- CD-i app or segment items will increase the size of the first track (2 seconds extra per segment-item)
- two seconds lead-in per video track
- others

I think that I calculated once that you could definitely fit (for one video track with minimal overhead) a max. of 79min 45 sec on an 80 min CD WITHOUT overburning.

Of course, on most burners now, you CAN overburn and most media are reasonably forgiving. You can probably reliably overburn on most media by about a minute or two.

So, in reply to the original poster, if you can overburn on your burner, you have a pretty good chance of fitting 809 MB onto an 80min disc with no problems!

Regards.

[PimpInDaHouse]

Go here http://www.vcdhelp.com/tmpgenc.htm and scroll down to biterate settings and read what it says you retardes, does anyone listen to what I say am I invisable or something.

[Rarj4ever]

i was able to burn my 798mb Svcd using MovieFactory but dont know why MovieFactory sees it 707mb only maybe thats why i can burn it