Computor will not copy DVD-R correctly.

[RockerAce]

Why wont my computer copy some DVD-R's and others it will? It can play on my computer no problem. But when I try to copy it to my computer with DVD Decryptor it only copies .007 secs, but yet has the full bitrate of 6000+. Is there a way to copy it? Maybe it is the media brand? This disc is a Phillips DVD-R 1-16X Speed.
I would be thankful for any help or suggestions.

Just a lil info on what I am doing.

I run a Roku TV Station, I am using a DVD/VHS Recorder to make DVD-R. Then using DVD Decryptor to copy to computer. Then Handbrake to convert to MP-4.

I have had this problem before and just gave up on those discs. But then some of them will copy. Although this was before I owned my own Recorder. Also I was able to copy one of them once. Then I went back to do it again and it would not?? HELP?

[october262]

you may want to use a more up to date decrypter such as dvdfab. DVD DECRYPTER hasn't been updated in ages.
are you finalizing the discs in your recorder??

[usually_quiet]

MakeMKV is another newer decrypter. It is free for Blu-Ray while in beta, and always free for DVD. Every so often the beta key expires, but you can download an updated version of MakeMKV and grab a new key from MakeMKV's forum: http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1053

[RockerAce]

Yes I am finalizing. I downloaded DVD Fab. Any setting I should change. Since you use this maybe you can save me tme by telling me what to set setting at. Or just leave it the way it is?

[usually_quiet]

I wish I had thought a bit more before I answered. DVDs from a DVD recorder should not need to be decrypted. A straight copy using Windows Explorer should work, at least it always has for me if the DVD is finalized, or is a type of DVD media that doesn't require finalization.

My guess is that the media is part of the problem. Philips is low-quality.The DVD recorder may also have marginal compatibility with the media used for recording. It is also possible that PC drive or DVD recorder drive is failing.

[Cornucopia]

CPRM?

More likely bad media...

Scott

[MOVIEGEEK]

Most likely a bad burn or the DVD is defective, I've had some success using ISOBuster.

Are you using labels on the DVD?

[RockerAce]

As I said the DVD PLAYS on my comp. I just cannot rip it to my comp!

[Cornucopia]

Playing & Ripping are 2 quite different things! Playing requires little to no additional error correction (bad sectors skipped/frame-dropped), unlike ripping.

[RockerAce]

Well october 262 was correct. Dvd Fab worked. I guess DVD Decryptor is just to old to read these things.

Now what are some good easy programs to use. DVD Fab put there own little bug in the top left corner of my picture. And this lowered the bit rate a pretty good amount I believe. Any suggestions guys?

[usually_quiet]

Since copying the DVD with Windows Explorer doesn't work for these disks but the PC can play them, if you can play the DVD with VLC, VLC's recording function can be used to copy the DVD's original audio and video streams to a file named "vlc-record...mpg" in C:\Users\yourusername\Videos Since DVD recoders don't capture more than one audio stream and don't contain selectable subtitles, you will be able to obtain everything you need. This has to be done as the video is being played, so it takes one hour for a one hour video.

The "Record" button has a this button has a red dot as its icon. If you need to add the "Record" button to VLC's user interface, insert the DVD in the tray and select "Open DVD". Click "View" on the menu bar then select "Advanced Controls". Click "Tools" on the menu bar then select "Customize Interface". Choose a style, for example "One Liner Style", from the drop-down list beside "Select profile" and close the window. The "Record" button should be visible.

When you are ready to record, just click the "Record" button. The button's background will turn blue while recording. The recording will end when you click the record button again or at the end of the video.

[jagabo]

ImgBurn: Make ISO. Burn ISO.

[RockerAce]

I don't want to burn anything. DVD Fab worked great, it was just not enough Bit Rate. So it was just my outdated DVD Decryptor. I use Handbrake to convert to MP4. So which is a good program to rip the DVD-R to computer other than DVD Fab. A friend said Roxio. But which one would I get to just rip it to computer? I will still be using Handbrake to convert.

And thank you so much for all the answers guys!

[smrpix]

it was just not enough Bit Rate... But which one would I get to just rip it to computer? I will still be using Handbrake to convert.

DVDFab can simply rip. There should be no change of bitrate and no watermarks. From your description it sounds like you are using it both to rip and convert.

[usually_quiet]

I don't want to burn anything. DVD Fab worked great, it was just not enough Bit Rate. So it was just my outdated DVD Decryptor. I use Handbrake to convert to MP4. So which is a good program to rip the DVD-R to computer other than DVD Fab. A friend said Roxio. But which one would I get to just rip it to computer? I will still be using Handbrake to convert.

And thank you so much for all the answers guys!

Roxio is a copier, not a ripper.

The fact that you need ripping software at all to copy a DVD-R created by a US DVD recorder is very odd.

CPRM, the kind of copy protection employed by DVD recorders when recording shows marked "copy-once" by a paid TV provider, can't be used on ordinary DVD-R or DVD-RW media, and CPRM-compatible media is virtually impossible to buy in the US. It pretty much has to be imported from Japan. Most DVD recorders made since 2004 won't record copy-once programming if the media isn't CPRM-compatible.

DVDFab is supposed to be able to rip CPRM-protected recordings. I'm not sure that MakeMKV can

[RockerAce]

I really thought I explained this enough. Forget the fancy words "Rip" and such. All I want to do is put the dvd-r on my computer. That's is all.

And now I know it was the program I was using. The DVD Fab I tried was the "trial" version. And yes it prob did covert as well. Maybe because it was a "trial" version the watermark is there. It is only there the first 20 secs then goes away.

My simple question is this.

What is a decent program to put this DVD-r on my computer? I will use Handbrake to do everything else. Please include links to such programs. Thanks so much guys for all your help. I do my channel and this for fun. I am a mechanic by trade. Sorry for being so stupid about the terms and stuff.

[jagabo]

DVD Fab: Copy Mode, Full Disc.

[smrpix]

The DVD Fab I tried was the "trial" version. And yes it prob did covert as well. Maybe because it was a "trial" version the watermark is there.

Even the trial version should allow you to copy without converting. You probably missed a button. Be sure you are in "copy mode."
(I have a licensed version but it should be no different.)

edit: oops, jagabo gets there first.

[RockerAce]

Wow. This is all so confusing. I used DVD Fab in "copy" mode and it makes me like 8 different files. 4 of them are video. But they are all broken up. I can't find anywhere where you can change it to "Full Disc"

Is there anything that just does the same thing as DVD Decryptor. Just a lil more up to date? It does not have to be DVD Fab. Unless I guess you guys all think that is the best. Cause frankly even there website is majorly confusing! Is there anything as simple as DVD Decryptor?

[usually_quiet]

MakeMKV is another ripper. VOB2MPG might work. It's a copier that places its output in mpg files.

If worse comes to worse, VLC's record function worked for some people when they needed to copy problematic DVDs that were still playable.

[RockerAce]

And Handbrake will be able to read these files from MakeMKV and convert to MP4.

All in all the end result I am looking for is to convert a DVD-R to a MP-4 of a 5000 Bit Rate size.

Maybe I just should have stated this from the begining. You guy might know a simple program that will do all of this.

[usually_quiet]

And Handbrake will be able to read these files from MakeMKV and convert to MP4.

I just tried converting a mkv file (MPEG-2 video plus AC3 audio) from MakeMKV into an MP4 (AVC video plus AAC audio) with Handbrake. Yes, it worked.

All in all the end result I am looking for is to convert a DVD-R to a MP-4 of a 5000 Bit Rate size.

Maybe I just should have stated this from the begining. You guy might know a simple program that will do all of this.

The problem is that you say that no standard method works for copying some of your DVDs, and that these DVDs were not commercially produced. As already explained, home-recorded DVDs with CPRM encryption aren't common outside of Japan.

This makes some of us wonder whether data recovery software is what you really need rather than ordinary copying/ripping software. Something is making the data on these these DVDs unreadable for copying. The cause could be a bad burn, or deteriorating media, or warping from sticky labels, or physical damage.

[RockerAce]

I am saying that DVD Decryptor does not work for some. That's all. I am not sure I used DVD Fab correctly. The discs play fine in the computer and in all the DVD Blu Ray players I own. The discs that wont work on DVD Decryptor simply record 7 seconds of picture. But when you look in at Data Rate it is well over 6000.

I am trying DVD Fab right now. Converting the movie to a WMV. It will only be 2050 bitrate. But if I edit it a lil in Windows Movie Maker it makes it 5500 bit rate! Then i will use Handbrake. ............Boy that sounds like alot of work! I will try MakeMKV.

Thanks so much for your patience guys!

[october262]

And Handbrake will be able to read these files from MakeMKV and convert to MP4.

I just tried converting a mkv file (MPEG-2 video plus AC3 audio) from MakeMKV into an MP4 (AVC video plus AAC audio) with Handbrake. Yes, it worked.

All in all the end result I am looking for is to convert a DVD-R to a MP-4 of a 5000 Bit Rate size.

Maybe I just should have stated this from the begining. You guy might know a simple program that will do all of this.

The problem is that you say that no standard method works for copying some of your DVDs, and that these DVDs were not commercially produced. As already explained, home-recorded DVDs with CPRM encryption aren't common outside of Japan.

This makes some of us wonder whether data recovery software is what you really need rather than ordinary copying/ripping software. Something is making the data on these these DVDs unreadable for copying. The cause could be a bad burn, or deteriorating media, or warping from sticky labels, or physical damage.

must be like those kind of dvds that after awhile they become unreadable.
they were called a disposable dvd. - http://content.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1817828,00.html

[RockerAce]

LOL! Absolutely not.

[Cornucopia]

Flexplay was a bust - twice! Just like original DIVX-DVDs were. People are gullible, but they aren't THAT stupid.

Scott

[RockerAce]

"I just tried converting a mkv file (MPEG-2 video plus AC3 audio) from MakeMKV into an MP4 (AVC video plus AAC audio) with Handbrake. Yes, it worked."

Excellent! I have a good feeling about this one! I will try it as soon as I get home from work!

[jagabo]

If your source DVD isn't encrypted you can open the video_ts folder directly from the disc with Handbrake. That's usually not recommended because it's more wear and tear on the DVD drive. VOB2MPG can do the same.

[RockerAce]

I would like to thank you all for your help! The MakeMKV works excellent! And then using Handbrake I got exactly what I was looking for. Thank you to every single one of you who posted.