Cant Capture Playstation

[JamieBecks23]

im tryin to record clips of Final Fantasy 7 and have plugged the yellow cable into the hole in the pc (composite) and wen i load up any capture programs it just shows grey. if i go to preview it goes black. but if i change the source to ntsc it shows the game but all funny lukin. the game is pal, the playstaion is pal, why cant i record this game?

[spiderman2k1]

I tried doing this before and had the same problem. It's really weird. Maybe this will help www.facetvideo.com but I do not know if this box will fix the problem. Sorry I traded in my PS2 for store credit for a XBOX360 so I can not test it for you.

[thecoalman]

I saw another post similar to this but it was a combo NTSC/PAL DVD player. Apparently some Combo NTSC/PAL devices don't do a full NTSC to PAL conversion and put out a signal that's not really regular PAL called PAL60. It will work fine on a PAL TV but not on capture cards. Possibly thta's the type of signal it's outputting, see if you have a setting for PAL60 on your card.

If you think about it, it makes sense, they can manufacture all the discs and the hardware the same. They'd only have to add the converter to consoles destined for areas using the PAL standard.

I'm just guessing here, I could be wrong.

[JamieBecks23]

how do i change the settings?

[thecoalman]

but if i change the source to ntsc it shows the game but all funny lukin. the game is pal, the playstaion is pal, why cant i record this game?

It appears you already know. If by the above you mean you switched the card than whatevr settings are there is what's available. I don't recall ever seeing a selection for PAL60 on any of the several cards I have had so it's probably not available, it was just a suggestion.

Afew other things to try:

1.Have you tried hooking up another source like a VCR to see if the card is functioning? Could be I'm wrong and it's some other issue

2. Try recording from the PS directly to a VCR to see if you get the same results.

If a VCR works on the card and and the VCR won't record the PS most likely I'm right.

3 Can you switch the PS from NTSC to PAL? If so switch it to NTSC and see if you can capture a NTSC signal and convert it to PAL.

[JamieBecks23]

not a problem with the card as i can capture anything else. even if i put the ps into the vcr and then into capture card, same prob. cant switch signal

[thecoalman]

. even if i put the ps into the vcr and then into capture card, same prob. cant switch signal

What I meant was can you record the PS to tape on the VCR. If you can't it would seem logical to me that it's outputting the non-standard PAL signal. In that case I'm assuming you would need either a capture card that can capture PAL60 or something that will convert the non-standard PAL signal to a standard signal.

This is really not something I know a lot about, perhaps someoen else can give you some advice.

[JamieBecks23]

i guess i could record the game onto a vhs tape and capture the tape. better than nwt i suppose

[thecoalman]

i guess i could record the game onto a vhs tape and capture the tape. better than nwt i suppose

....I wasn't offering that as a alternative solution but just to see if it can as a diganostic tool. I'd imagine if the capture card can't record the signal the VCR won't be able to either. If that's the case you know the issue lies with the PS and not your setup.

[vhelp]

Did you press the reset button on that box ??

the reason why I ask is because, this morning, I ran a few
tests of my own, to capture my old Nintendo ( 1985 ) to
my ADVC-100 via the yellow composite port.
.
When I first plugged it into the ADVC, and loaded up my
DV capture software, and turned on the Nintendo game, it
filled my capture window w/ an ugly brown color, and would
blink here or there, the Mario guy at the top (some duck
game was in the machine) But, when I pressed the RESET
button, everything cleared, and Mario popped up, hehe
and I was able to capture it while I played the game.

(I didnt' realize the game output in Interlace, though)

-vhelp 3463

[JamieBecks23]

no the problem is not the ps. it outputs in a different pal that capture cards can not capture

[RottenFoxBreath]

hasnt it got something to do with anty copy measures.
when i modded my ps2,i did a bit of soldering jiggery pokery to get the rgb scart to work in color with dvds,as you were supposed to use the composite.,and when you played dvds with the scart,it was all mucked up.

[thecoalman]

hasnt it got something to do with anty copy measures.

Could be but depends on how the capture card reacts to protection. Most produce a semi usable capture i.e. my VIVO card throws a white bar across 75% of the capture.

Have you tried taping it on the VCR as I suggested?

[vitualis]

If you are after the FMV, you can actually extract it from the PS7 discs... Just do a Google search for the tools.

Regards.

[FulciLives]

I just read over at the avsforum that the NTSC version of the PlayStation 1 actually outputs 240P and that the TV turns that into normal 480i by putting a black scanline every other scanline ... or something like that.

I wonder if the PAL version outputs 288P and if so what would happen if you tried to capture 25fps at a resolution of 288 instead of 576?

Hmmm ....

- John "FulciLives" Coleman