Can't fit a 764MB mpeg in a 80 min CD :-(

[HDSN]

Hi

I'm making a SVCD from an AVI, my first step was estimating the bitrate with DVDRHelp bitrate calculator, which gave me a bitrate of 2240 kb/s for video.
On my second step I've encoded the source file with TMPGEnc which generated a mpg file of 764 MB... great, since it would fit in the available space of 795 MB in mode 2.
But now! when I'm trying to burn my movie, VCDEasy generates a cue/bin image of 879 MB !!! that obviously wont fit in any CD.
I've changed no default setting but creating several chapters.
Could anyone please tell me where am I missing??

Thanks

[Poplar]

VCDEasy did a lot auto-padding during authoring process, that is the cause of the over-limit size. That's why I don't use TMPG, because VCDEasy is always complaining about streams encoded by TMPG. Sometimes, it is not serious, sometimes you got a problem like this. Why can't TMPG produce a stream that VCDEasy will happily accept without complaining about anything!?

Way to work around this: demux and remux it with VCD standard, but it doesn't always work....

[gmatov]

TMPGenc should have made burnable/playable files.

What is VCDEasy doing, re-encoding?

Do you have Nero? "Burn non-compliant file".

795 is not a limit. DVD2SVCD, TMPGenc has made me files of 830 megs that fit without setting overburn.

If you do have Nero, don't tell it to re-encode, it'll take anothe couple hundred meg.

[mujahid7ia]

the bin/cue sets dont represent the actual size of the cd, just try burnin it. aLCOHOL 120% handles overburn well....

i *think* the image has errorcorrection while a mode2 XA VCD does not

[mats.hogberg]

My guess is that you didn't multiplex the SVCD mpeg as SVCD, but as System Stream. Take your mpeg, open TMPGEnc MPEG Tools, multiplex, and use your orginal mpg as both Audio and Video source. Make sure you select SVCD as stream type.
Author again with VCDEasy.

/Mats

[Ejoc]

To fix the need for auto padding:
1) demux the video and audio
2) remux the video and audio as SuperVCD type, TMPGEnc will default to system, which is where the problem with needing autopadding comes from.

but I've never had an mpeg generated by tmpgenc require this step, only if I muxed the audio and video toether and forget to set it as SuperVCD.

[HDSN]

Hi
Excuse me for the delay, I had a hard day.

Hey... you got it !!!

My guess is that you didn't multiplex the SVCD mpeg as SVCD

That is what I am missing!
Thank you all
Thank you for your tolerance and for sharing your knowledge.

795 is not a limit. DVD2SVCD, TMPGenc has made me files of 830 megs that fit without setting overburn.

Many of us must be curious about how you can do that, could you give a detailed explanation?

[devilzdog]

uhm just burn it? it works

[redwudz]

Gmatov:TMPGenc has made me files of 830 megs that fit without setting overburn.
HDSN: Many of us must be curious about how you can do that, could you give a detailed explanation?

If you are burning a bin/cue file as an image in Nero, you aren't adding the error correction that takes up space on the disk. I believe this is the same as mode2. I don't know what the upper limit is, but I have burned quite a few in the 825MB area.