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    I had the oportunity to try and convert some video shot in Australia with a Pal camcorder,to ntsc.I tried to capture 10 min. of video with the Pal camcorder,but all the software i tried would capture a few seconds,then stall,drop a bunch of frames,and then start again.Eventually i crashed with an error,which i forgot. I'm sure that was because of the camcorder itself.
    Am i supposed to use an ntsc camera to capture pal video,and then convert to ntsc 23.97 video with tmpg?
    If i can get a few minutes on the computer to play with i can try to convert to ntsc.
    There are 3 hours of video,so i'll play with a 10 minute clip,until i find the best method.
    Thanks for the help.
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    Woah ......slow down ... from the top.

    1. You have a DV tape shot with a PAL DV camcorder - Correct?
    2. You want to convert said PAL DV tape to NTSC - Corrrect?

    * This will require a PAL DV camcorder . Plug PAL DV camcorder into firewire port - transfer away.
    Conversion to be done on computer.

    FYI : I get PAL DVD from my brother in Oz occassionally and have had no trouble watching them on my TV (although it is through the computer TV out card).

    Am i supposed to use an ntsc camera to capture pal video,and then convert to ntsc 23.97 video with tmpg?
    Lets pretend you never said that
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    I have the pal tape and i tried capturing with the pal camcorder hooked up to the firewire port,and it starts to capture ok for a few seconds,stutters and stops,drops a bunch of frames,and then continues to capture for a few more seconds.This jerkiness continues for 2 or 3 minutes,and then the capture program crashes.when i checked the download file,there was a total of 5 separate files of various sizes that added up to 3 minutes of video.
    I tried 2 different capture programs,and they both did the same thing.
    The pal camcorder is going back to australia tomorrow,so i'm out of luck there.
    I'm not sure what happened in the capture process,as i can capture satellite signals and my own dv camcorder video ok.I assume i can't use an ntsc camcorder and pal tape together,and then convert the video later.
    A major camera chain store wanted $70 per 2 hr tape.Anything over 2 hrs. is charged by the minute.3 tapes $210 plus.That's why i thought i would give it a try.
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    DV or Analog camcorder.

    If analog then your capture card must support PAL.
    If analog AND your capture card supports PAL then ensure it is selected.

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    Brad ...

    Could it be that you are having trouble feeding the PAL DV signal to your computer because MAYBE your DV "capture" program is set for NTSC and not PAL?

    I've never had a DV camera or worked with transfering DV to a computer but with analog video you have to capture PAL as PAL and if you tried to input a PAL analog signal but tried to capture with NTSC values (I'm talking the frames-per-second as well as resolution) then it won't work.

    So it's worth a look see.

    The only other thing I can think of is that maybe the FIREWIRE plug is not properly supplying power to the CAM since it is a PAL cam and you live in the USA and I know the POWER voltages are different ... at least for normal plug-in-the-wall power. Don't know about FIREWIRE power differences (if any).

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    Hi, the problem you are describing of jerky frames, might be a capture problem, as distinct from a PAL vs NSTC issue. It sounds like you have the classic "dropped frames" problem. What happens is that the computer is not quick enough at moving the frames from the firewire port to the hard disk.

    If you search thru this forum you will find lots of advice on capture performance. Most commonly, its either;
    slow hard disk performance - check DMA settings and defrag and/or;
    other applications getting in the way - check task manager for anything that can be disposed of.
    Past that, check out suggestions you find in this forum.
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    As far as the power goes,it was on battery so i don.t think that would be a problem.The voltage problem would only happen without the right charger,i think.
    As far as capturing in pal mode,i think that;s what the settings were,as i had no rolling picture.But you've got me wondering about that now.The video i was able to capture between the stuttering was smooth,and didn't have that rolling effect like when you try to play it on an ntsc tv.
    If i can't put that pal tapes in an ntsc camcorder to capture with,then i'm out of luck.
    Thanks
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    Originally Posted by bmiller
    If i can't put that pal tapes in an ntsc camcorder to capture with,then i'm out of luck.
    There might be the odd exception here or there but for the most part USA NTSC video equipment (especially something like a CAMCORDER ... digital or not) is not capable of properly playing back PAL encoded material.

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