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Miaveli
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Post Posted: Jul 25, 2001 10:12 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I have found that when Multiplexing in TMPGEnc for the creation of VCD, if I select the type:
'MPEG1 Video-CD (non-standard)'
the resulting file will always play on any standalone DVD player. This is also an exact match to what bbMPEG when multiplexing a VCD file.

Type 'MPEG1 Video-CD', or the 'Auto' type in TMPGenc will always play fine on a PC media player, but will speed up or go out of sync on some standalone DVD Players.

The author of TMPEGenc seems to have mislabelled these types, thus resulting in bad multiplexed files that go out of synch on certain standalone DVD players.


cskoien
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Post Posted: Jul 25, 2001 14:08 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

What version of TMPEnc are you using....where abouts do you select MPEG1-non standard....I can see it anywhere

vitualis
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Post Posted: Jul 25, 2001 19:33 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Miaveli,

Your conclusions are a little bit premature.

If you select, MPEG Video-CD (non-standard) all it does is create the correct pack size and nothing more. The idea here is to do this to your XVCD streams before burning them. However, these streams can obviously be non-White Book compliant..

MPEG Video-CD is the correct setting to use if you have an MPEG stream with VCD compliant specs. If you don't, then obviously you should choose the "non-standard" option.

Furthermore, TMPGEnc is not a magic pill for your MPEGs. It's muxer isn't that good, and depending on how you created your MPEG-1 in the first place, it may not mux correctly.

Regards.

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Miaveli
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Post Posted: Jul 26, 2001 00:15 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I use Beta 12h, the latest version.

Selecting MPEG Video-CD (non-standard) type when multiplexing a compliant VCD in TMPEnc gives the exact same result as BBmpeg when multiplexing a VCD. This is weird as they both use the MPLEX 1.1 engine for multiplexing.

Type 'MPEG Video-CD' in TMPGEnc should give the same result as VCD stream in BBmpeg, but it causes synch probs on some DVD players I've tested.

The 'MPEG Video-CD (non-standard)' type always creates a multiplexed VCD that works perfectly on stand alone VCD players, while type 'MPEG Video-CD' caused sync probs on certain DVD players. And yes, all these files I used to test were 100% VCD, not XVCD.


The text below is taken from Video & Editing newsgroup 7/10/2001:

Multiplexing type when creating 100% VCD compliance:

TMPGEnc 'MPEG Video-CD (non-standard)' == VCD stream in BBMpeg, plays on all stand alone DVD players that supports VCD.

'MPEG Video-CD' != VCD stream in BBmpeg
can cause synch probs on certain standalone dvd.


Miaveli
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Post Posted: Jul 26, 2001 00:15 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I use Beta 12h, the latest version.

Selecting MPEG Video-CD (non-standard) type when multiplexing a compliant VCD in TMPEnc gives the exact same result as BBmpeg when multiplexing a VCD. This is weird as they both use the MPLEX 1.1 engine for multiplexing.

Type 'MPEG Video-CD' in TMPGEnc should give the same result as VCD stream in BBmpeg, but it causes synch probs on some DVD players I've tested.

The 'MPEG Video-CD (non-standard)' type always creates a multiplexed VCD that works perfectly on stand alone VCD players, while type 'MPEG Video-CD' caused sync probs on certain DVD players. And yes, all these files I used to test were 100% VCD, not XVCD.


The text below is taken from Video & Editing newsgroup 7/10/2001:

Multiplexing type when creating 100% VCD compliance:

TMPGEnc 'MPEG Video-CD (non-standard)' == VCD stream in BBMpeg, plays on all stand alone DVD players that supports VCD.

'MPEG Video-CD' != VCD stream in BBmpeg
can cause synch probs on certain standalone dvd.


vitualis
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Post Posted: Jul 26, 2001 03:06 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Interesting observation. wink.gif

Is this isolated to 12h or in other versions as well?

Regards.

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AntnyMD
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Joined: 08 Jun 2001
Location: Silver Spring, MD USA

Post Posted: Jul 26, 2001 04:22 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Thats a very interesting observation. This is primarily why I want to buy one of those Napa DAV-311 portable VCD players, because I figure if my standard VCD plays in there, it'll play anywhere.

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