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Does anyone make a FIREWIRE 400/800 COMBO HUB?

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KeepItSimple
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Post Posted: Nov 04, 2009 09:23 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Hello I bought a new iMac and it has only 1 Firewire 800 port. The Firewire 400 port has been replaced by a 4th USB2 port.

I need firewire 400 for my camcorder and 800 for an external HD but I can't find a Firewire hub that has both Firewire 400 and 800 inputs then outputs to Firewire 800. I find Firewire 400 hubs and Firewire 800 hubs but I need a combo unit.

Is such a device made? I can't find one searching the Internet.

Thanks in advance!


rumplestiltskin
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Post Posted: Nov 04, 2009 09:36 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

This may not be a perfect solution but it works for me:

http://www.amazon.com/Sonnet-FireWire-400-Adapter-FAD-824/dp/B0000CDJPQ

Takes a FW400 cable and converts it to a FW800 plug.


16mmJunkie
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Post Posted: Nov 04, 2009 09:45 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

KeepItSimple wrote:
Hello I bought a new iMac and it has only 1 Firewire 800 port. The Firewire 400 port has been replaced by a 4th USB2 port.

I need firewire 400 for my camcorder and 800 for an external HD but I can't find a Firewire hub that has both Firewire 400 and 800 inputs then outputs to Firewire 800. I find Firewire 400 hubs and Firewire 800 hubs but I need a combo unit.

Is such a device made? I can't find one searching the Internet.

Thanks in advance!



Hummm....maybe you should have researched/looked at the iMac prior to purchase. lightbulb.gif Anyway, how about running a 800 splitter and then plugging in your hub for each device, hence you have several connections for both 400/800? How this helps and just had to ribbed you a little. I've done the same in the past. redface.gif


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KeepItSimple
Rmae


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Post Posted: Nov 04, 2009 09:49 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Oh I knew it had only 800 when I bought it but I didn't want to buy last year's (now last last year's) model with 1/2 the RAM and 1/2 the hard drive size as the new model just to get the 400 port. I'll rig up adapters etc if I have to but it sure would be nice to find a combo hub. It's needed.

terryj
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Post Posted: Nov 04, 2009 10:01 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I've been searching for one for a while...so far I can find intergrated hubs
on ext devices ( like the ministacks), but so far no standalone
hub that would route many ext devices off of one bus connection.

So I use the adapters too now. I highly reccomend the one made by
Sonnet and this one by Newer Tech.
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KeepItSimple
Rmae


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Post Posted: Nov 04, 2009 10:10 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Thanks for the info. Actually I bought a 4 pin - 9 pin FW cable to connect the camcorder to the new imac 800 port, so I can connect but not with the external HD at the same time. Know of any good Firewire 800 hubs, TerryJ?

rumplestiltskin
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Post Posted: Nov 04, 2009 10:28 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Here's a good FW400 hub:

http://www.amazon.com/Buslink-H-6FW-6port-External-Firewire/dp/B00006BAJK

I use it with the Sonnet adapter so all my older FW devices can connect as can my MacBook Pro.


KeepItSimple
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Post Posted: Nov 04, 2009 10:32 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Wow that one has a lot of ports! Is there a FW800 version of it?

rumplestiltskin
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Post Posted: Nov 04, 2009 10:39 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

KeepItSimple wrote:
Wow that one has a lot of ports! Is there a FW800 version of it?

Not that I've seen. Frankly, I suspect we'll see less and less in the way of FireWire 800 devices once USB3 devices start appearing (and assuming Apple ever goes down that path). We all know how quickly Apple implemented eSATA, eh?

Unless you have devices that really are fast enough to take advantage of the FW800 port, why bother? Even then, with a FW hub, you're splitting up the bandwidth so a FW400 hub should be sufficient. Your camcorder only needs FW400 (and should probably be the only device on the FW port to keep interference to a minimum).


KeepItSimple
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Post Posted: Nov 04, 2009 10:45 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Hmmmm. Yeah I would need to connect my LaCie FW800 ext HD and the 400 camcorder at the same time and save the video files to the LaCie so it would have to be a FW800 hub. Having multiples connected to 1 port doesn't slow everything down, does it? Until now i've had multiple FW ports to use.

KeepItSimple
Rmae


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Post Posted: Nov 04, 2009 10:49 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Hey I was searching Amazon for FW800 devices and found this 4-pin to 9-pin 6foot cable for under $7 plus shipping. Sounds like a good deal to me.

http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-F019-006-Firewire-Hi-speed/dp/B0 ... amp;sr=8-1


terryj
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Post Posted: Nov 05, 2009 09:10 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

KeepItSimple wrote:
Know of any good Firewire 800 hubs, TerryJ?


Just found this one, don't know what it's rated:
Belkin 2 port FW800 Hub
I know that Belkin's USB hubs suck @$$, but they make good iPod Cables,
so take that FWIW. smile.gif
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Post Posted: Nov 05, 2009 09:52 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

KeepItSimple wrote:
Hmmmm. Yeah I would need to connect my LaCie FW800 ext HD and the 400 camcorder at the same time and save the video files to the LaCie so it would have to be a FW800 hub. Having multiples connected to 1 port doesn't slow everything down, does it? Until now i've had multiple FW ports to use.


No, it doesn't have to be a FW800 hub. Just get a FW400 hub and connect the FW800 drive with that adapter I mentioned in an earlier post (or a 400>800 cable if you want).

Theoretically, more FW devices sharing one port does slow everything down (assuming there's actually enough data being moved to saturate the bandwidth of the port). However, capturing DV-Stream over FireWire and then moving it to the LaCie (like you would using iMovie or FCP, for example) should not saturate the bandwidth. FCP is a bit picky about dropped frames but, as I said, you probably won't have this issue.


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