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Onceler2
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Post Posted: Nov 02, 2009 14:07 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I have a brand new dvd that I am trying to copy.Using DVDdecrypter in ISO mode it says check condition.
I get an error when I try to do the same in DVD Fab.
This is a brand new DVD it is not scratched or dirty.


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Post Posted: Nov 02, 2009 14:25 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Is it a commercial DVD?
What's the title of the DVD?
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Post Posted: Nov 02, 2009 14:27 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

DVD Decrypter hasn't been updated in years and doesn't understand some of the new types of copy protection that some US studios use (Sony and Disney to name but 2 of them). The author of DVD Decrypter was facing a lawsuit and to settle the case he had to give up the source code and stop working on it.

DVDFab does the best it can, but recent reports are that the free version may not be updated to deal with all possible copy protections. So if you have the free one you can wait and see if an update in the future fixes this problem or you can buy the commercial one, which they promise to update. The copy protection that causes problems is usually a variant of ARCCOS that uses bad sectors to try to prevent copying. Authors of programs like DVDFab must buy new DVDs when they are released with new variants of ARCCOS and pay programmers to make the changes to rip the DVDs. All of the free rippers have long ago stopped doing the updates to keep up with ARCCOS - it's too time consuming. Only the commercial rippers like AnyDVD and DVDFab keep up with changes.


Onceler2
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Post Posted: Nov 02, 2009 17:17 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Yes it is comercial. Howards End brand new

stiltman
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Post Posted: Nov 02, 2009 17:46 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

That's a rather old DVD, what's the exact error message?
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Post Posted: Nov 02, 2009 20:17 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Older movie, but newer DVD, newer copy protection?

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Post Posted: Nov 03, 2009 00:17 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

CobraPilot wrote:
Older movie, but newer DVD, newer copy protection?

The "newest" release I see of that movie to DVD in English was almost 2 years ago. There have been some French and German re-releases in recent years but still nothing "new".
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Post Posted: Nov 03, 2009 07:49 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Possibly try ripping from another drive?

jman98
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Post Posted: Nov 03, 2009 07:59 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

CobraPilot wrote:
Older movie, but newer DVD, newer copy protection?


Unlikely. Since the new copy protection involves placing bad sectors on the master, the studio would have to pay to re-author the movie. I suppose anything is possible, but I'd consider that unlikely. Now this title was released by Criterion this year so I suppose if you bought that one it might have some new copy protection on it, but if you bought the non-Criterion release (apparently released by a studio called Merchant Ivory - never heard of them) it should be able to be ripped right now with existing rippers. Heck, I'd guess that even old DVD Decrypter could handle it. In the past Criterion has not used ARCCOS so I'm leaning towards there either being a problem with your drive or the disc itself.


manono
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Post Posted: Nov 03, 2009 08:25 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

jman98 wrote:
Heck, I'd guess that even old DVD Decrypter could handle it. In the past Criterion has not used ARCCOS so I'm leaning towards there either being a problem with your drive or the disc itself.

I agree. Criterion doesn't use the fancy stuff. DVD Decrypter handles them all fine. I also think there's something wrong with the physical disc or the drive.


Onceler2
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Post Posted: Nov 03, 2009 14:38 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I tried it in another drive,I tried it in another computer with another drive...same thing.Now my main drive won't recognise dvd dl media

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Post Posted: Nov 03, 2009 14:53 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I'd say the disc is the problem, see if you can exchange it.
Does it play ok in your PC and DVD player?
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stiltman
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Post Posted: Nov 03, 2009 16:12 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Onceler2 wrote:
I tried it in another drive,I tried it in another computer with another drive...same thing.Now my main drive won't recognise dvd dl media


Are you getting this error message?
Cyclic redundancy check - data error
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Post Posted: Nov 04, 2009 00:14 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

If your new dvd drive is a IDE (PATA) one then buy a new 80 wire ide cable. Newer IDE dvd drives require the use of a 80 wire ide cable. Ide cables are know to fail as they don't last a lifetime.
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Post Posted: Nov 04, 2009 02:19 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

jman98 wrote:
but if you bought the non-Criterion release (apparently released by a studio called Merchant Ivory - never heard of them).

Not a studio -- that was the production company. They had a 25+ year track record of making acclaimed "arthouse" films. One of the partners died a few years ago, and the other may no longer be active. Re-release editions of certain films could possibly have different protections, but these are more typically not the sort of films that get the big protection efforts. That distinction usually goes to the utter CRAP mass market stuff about which you always see failed-backup-attempt posts here.
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