really screwy issue: PC will not read cdr-audio disc after it is burned

mazinz · 8 years and on Joined: 21 Jul 2001 Location: NY

I have never encountered this one before, so perhaps someone can help me out?

I wanted to make a regular audio cd for the car. In the years past I have used cdr-audio discs for work on the pc because I can and it has never given me an issue (I have a homedeck cdr recorder which is another reason why I get the cdr-audio type)

well what has happended today makes no sense to me (for the record: I use recordnowmax (stomp/veritas ver) for burning and I then tried this after my issue with ultraiso and imgburn only to get the same result)

the dvd drive used for burning is a liteon (have current firmware) LH20a1p (firmware klop). The
pc sees the blank cdr and burns on it without question

HOWEVER

after the burn is done the computer (well my 2 dvd drives) will not acknowledge the disc at all. You can see it is trying to read what is in the drive but eventually fails and acts like nothing is there. When it is trying for this read, the whole pc will freeze up until it stops the reading process. Any homedeck devices I put the disc in also give an unreadable error

I was not even able to make a dent with isobuster either.

burned 5 of them so far this way

Have the major companies (sony) changed the way cdr-audio disc are made and worked something so that it will not jive with a pc for burning? Has anyone ever had this problem before???

the same cdr-audio disc were used last night (LP transfer) with my homedeck and worked fine when I ripped it back to the pc for editing

Can anyone help me out?

minidv2dvd · .com Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Location: United States

cd-r "audio" blanks should not be used in anything but standalone cd recorders. they are not the same as cd-r. afaik they are 1x discs only. no current dvdr can use them properly.

and they are more expensive because of the built in riaa tax.

mazinz · 8 years and on Joined: 21 Jul 2001 Location: NY

thank you for the info but I have been using various cdr-audio discs with various cd (and shortly later dvd) burner drives since 2001 with no issues until now

guns1inger · Member Joined: 01 Apr 2004 Location: Miskatonic U

We have no problem using CD-R Audio discs in standard PC burners, and have been doing it for years. Personally, I am not convinced that you necessarily get better compatibility out of them when playing back in standalone players, but the person who uses them here is happy to pay the premium, and it comes out of her budget, so . . . . . . . . .

I would check your cables and make sure everything is connected happily, and also try burning to standard CD-R s and see if the same thing happens. It might just be that your burner is broken. It happens.
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mazinz · 8 years and on Joined: 21 Jul 2001 Location: NY

well regular cdr's I do not have handy, however the burner itself is somewhat new (bought it as a backup drive and kept it here until I finally gave it a home in a newer built pc a few months back because my old pioneer drive went ).

At any rate I have to burn a dvd data disc so I will test it now (have it verify after the burn). If this does work fine then this will point to some other odd issue. I used the burner last night nad had no problems, but then again anything can happen

be back in about 15 mins (4x burn)

guns1inger · Member Joined: 01 Apr 2004 Location: Miskatonic U

DVDs and CDs use different lasers, so it is not a valid test.

Just because it is new does not mean it isn't broken. The most likely time for equipment to fail is within the few couple of months. If it gets through that it will usually work for years.
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mazinz · 8 years and on Joined: 21 Jul 2001 Location: NY

I hate it when the simplest of things need quite a few test to pin point what is wrong, but it needs to be done.

After the dvd data disc is finished, I will try a mini cd data with the same cdr-audio blanks and see how that goes. If still an issue, will run out and pick up some regular cdrs and test them.

This would really suck if a laser that I rarely use sh*t the bed

** screw it, I am going to run out now and pick up some regular cdrs, report back with results soon

mazinz · 8 years and on Joined: 21 Jul 2001 Location: NY

I have some interesting results

Went out and picked up maxell regular cdrs (light gold color)

Using the maxell with the same settings as the sony cdr-audio, the cd worked like a charm and gave no problems

I then tried a sony disc from the middle of the spindle pack (to help rule out possible defects), burned it this time as a data disc. Same issue as before

the dvd laser works fine

So for whatever reason the Sony cdr-audio (or possibly the coloring of the disc, sky blue) are causing the pc to act crazy, but still work in the homedeck machine they were made for, and are readable in the pc if it was made on the homedeck machine

Using other cdr media worked fine in the pc with no problems

odd, never ran into that one

minidv2dvd · .com Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Location: United States

hehe, doesn't sound odd at all to me.....

mazinz · 8 years and on Joined: 21 Jul 2001 Location: NY

I know it wouldn't to you, but considering that just the opposite of what you believe has been working for the past (close to) 9 years or so, I find it peculiar that it surfaces now

DarrellS · Member Joined: 28 Nov 2002 Location: United States

I started a thread a few months back about not buying Sony CD-Rs. I bought a spindle and every single one I burned was a coaster.

http://forum.videohelp.com/topic345465.html#1809030

Everyone wanted to blame my burners but I'm still using the same burners with no problems using different discs. I never thought you could burn a coaster using CD-Rs until I bought the Sony's.

hech54 · CONFUSED Joined: 26 Jul 2001 Location: Yank in Europe

mazinz · 8 years and on Joined: 21 Jul 2001 Location: NY

interesting post. A few months back I had a sony cd flake from the top (not the same batch or type that I had a
problem with in this post)

Sony's dvd+r's are very nice and their - r's for dvd used to be just as good

hmm maybe their cd dept really did take a dive.? I m not even given any kind of media code ID with these disc at all