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Krispy Kritter
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Post Posted: Jun 16, 2009 12:38 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Like most of you I'm always on the lookout for deals on Verbatim DL media.

The typical Newegg deal is for the 2.4x rated 20 packs for $24.99 (sometimes less...I know they were 23.99 a week or so ago) with free shipping. That equals 1.25 a disc @ 24.99 ( or 1.20 a disc @23.99). Current price appears to be back up to $25.99. They have 8x rated media for $23.99 for 15 (1.60 each).

Anyway, for those of you in the US, my local Sam's Club as 50 pack spindles of 8x rated media for $59.99 (that's 1.20 each). Even after tax, that's the equivalent of the typical newegg deal and much less than their prices on 8x rated media.

Just thought I'd give you guys a heads up so that you could take a look.
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maldb
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Post Posted: Jun 18, 2009 10:16 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

If you want inkjet printables, Supermediastore has the 50 pack for $99 - spend another dollar (on whatever) to make it $100 and you get $10 off: 50 printables for $90 with shipping - $1.80 each. These are the highly coveted (and rated) made in Singapore versions - not India like those sold in Sams club and elsewhere.

Forgot: they also have a 100 pack for $189 - spend another $11 to get to $200 and take $20 off. 100 for $169 - $1.69 each including shipping. Great deal.

I use these for X-Box 360 backups and burn them at 4X on my Pioneer drive - they work perfectly. Almost 100 burned and not a single coaster.


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jman98
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Post Posted: Jun 18, 2009 10:27 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Those inkjet printable discs that maldb talks about are Verbatim's DataLifePlus series. I can personally confirm that these discs are indeed ONLY Made In Singapore. Note that Supermediastore rates them at 2.4-6x. ImgBurn tells me that these are 2.4x discs and I refuse to attempt to burn at higher speeds. Just keep in mind that if you are one of those people who simply doesn't have time to burn at 2.4x that these discs may not be for you.

kouras
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Post Posted: Jun 18, 2009 16:16 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

maldb wrote:
If you want inkjet printables, Supermediastore has the 50 pack for $99 - spend another dollar (on whatever) to make it $100 and you get $10 off: 50 printables for $90 with shipping - $1.80 each. These are the highly coveted (and rated) made in Singapore versions - not India like those sold in Sams club and elsewhere.

Forgot: they also have a 100 pack for $189 - spend another $11 to get to $200 and take $20 off. 100 for $169 - $1.69 each including shipping. Great deal.

I use these for X-Box 360 backups and burn them at 4X on my Pioneer drive - they work perfectly. Almost 100 burned and not a single coaster.


maldb, Ive never used the Dual Layer discs, what if I wanted to store some HD film of lets say 6.5 GB (720p), would I be able to store it as one file on these discs? Because now I can only store one single file of 2 GB or less on a DVD-R disc (something to do with the filesystem limit...). How do you store big files? Break them in small ones or what?

And one more question, since the DL discs much more expensive than a normal DVD-R ones, why one would back up to DL disc instead of doing so on 2 DVD-R's ? You are not going to stream from the DL disc, are you? If the DL disc lets you burn one big file, then I would go for DL disc, but does it let you?

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mrswla
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Post Posted: Jun 18, 2009 17:16 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

kouras wrote:
And one more question, since the DL discs much more expensive than a normal DVD-R ones, why one would back up to DL disc instead of doing so on 2 DVD-R's ?


So one can make an exact copy of the original dvd without any compression. smile.gif


jman98
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Post Posted: Jun 18, 2009 17:27 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

kouras wrote:

maldb, Ive never used the Dual Layer discs, what if I wanted to store some HD film of lets say 6.5 GB (720p), would I be able to store it as one file on these discs? Because now I can only store one single file of 2 GB or less on a DVD-R disc (something to do with the filesystem limit...). How do you store big files? Break them in small ones or what?


I'm not maldb, but I can answer this.

Actually you can burn a single file of more than 2 GB in size on a DVD-R disc, but you must use UDF format, not ISO. ISO format is why you are limited to 2 GB per file. I recommend using UDF version 2.01 for best compatibility with pre-Vista versions of Windows. So yes, you can burn a file of 6.5 GB to a DL disc if you use UDF.


maldb
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Post Posted: Jun 18, 2009 17:52 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

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maldb, Ive never used the Dual Layer discs, what if I wanted to store some HD film of lets say 6.5 GB (720p), would I be able to store it as one file on these discs? Because now I can only store one single file of 2 GB or less on a DVD-R disc (something to do with the filesystem limit...). How do you store big files? Break them in small ones or what?

And one more question, since the DL discs much more expensive than a normal DVD-R ones, why one would back up to DL disc instead of doing so on 2 DVD-R's ? You are not going to stream from the DL disc, are you? If the DL disc lets you burn one big file, then I would go for DL disc, but does it let you?

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jman98 answered the question re the file size limitation. For ISO format, the files are generally broken up into 1GB segments by your ripper software.

As for your Q re backing up to a DL as opposed to 2 4GB discs, I don't like breaking out a movie into 2 discs. I want to be able to sit and watch the whole movie without having to get up midway to change a disc. You can get quality non-printable Verbatim (the only DL I use) discs at your local Sam's club for around $1.20 in packs of 50.

Some movies have alot of extras which can be ripped onto another disc letting you burn just the main movie onto a disc - in some cases compression won't be necessary so you can get excellent quality at a fraction of the cost. For those top quality movies which are long, I prefer to burn them on DL rather than use compression.

Hope this helps.


kouras
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Post Posted: Jun 18, 2009 18:33 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Well, this is what I needed to know, if it can fit 6.5 GB in one file then I can understand the use of 1 DL disc. But for some reason when I tried UDF on normal dvd-r it didnt burn, do you change that in your burning software? I use Power 2Go from cyberlink or is it depends on my dvd-writer?

Just looked at the programm, and it has UDF 2.5. So I choose that and should burn a 4 GB file on a data DVD-R disc without any problems, right?

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Post Posted: Jun 18, 2009 18:53 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

You're using crappy burning software. Try ImgBurn.
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kouras
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Post Posted: Jun 19, 2009 07:15 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

lordsmurf wrote:
You're using crappy burning software. Try ImgBurn.


are you sure about that? ieek.gif Does ImgBurn have password protection function question.gif


jman98
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Post Posted: Jun 19, 2009 08:22 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

kouras wrote:

are you sure about that? ieek.gif Does ImgBurn have password protection function question.gif


Yes, we are ALL sure about that.

Why would you want "password protection function"? If you are someone who wants to protect his DVDs from being copied, well, good luck with that. Then use your program and if you have problems, too bad for you.


maldb
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Post Posted: Jun 19, 2009 08:55 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

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are you sure about that? ieek.gif Does ImgBurn have password protection function question.gif


Are we reading your question correctly? Do you want to burn a DVD and install password protection on it? or are you looking to rip a DVD and remove the copy protection? Use DVD Fab HD Decrypter (Free) to rip and DVD Shrink to compress.


kouras
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Post Posted: Jun 19, 2009 10:35 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

maldb wrote:
Quote:

are you sure about that? ieek.gif Does ImgBurn have password protection function question.gif


Are we reading your question correctly? Do you want to burn a DVD and install password protection on it? or are you looking to rip a DVD and remove the copy protection? Use DVD Fab HD Decrypter (Free) to rip and DVD Shrink to compress.


nah, he was questioning the software I use. I am a webmaster and I need the password protection for the DATA DVD's. Thats why I chose that programm. I will try again the UDF thing for a movie file and if both programms will fail - I will post here wink.gif

jman98, I didnt have problems with the password function and encryption/decryption of files, yet.


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