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Best and cheapest standalone DVD player
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riahc3
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Post Posted: Jun 07, 2009 13:07 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Hey smile.gif

My family is looking for a cheap standalone DVD player. Features would be:

- Reads anything (CD-R to DVD+RW DL and everything inbetween)
- Divx/Xvid support
- USB support
- Supports all standards (Talking about DVD wise such as menus, etc)
- Network (ethernet/wifi) would be nice but I understand that is pretty expensive
- NTSC/PAL support
- 120V/240V support
- Updatable (eg it can read CodecX 1 when I buy it but CodecX 2 comes out. I can update it to read CodecX 2 as well). This is almost impossible but oh well
- HDD but also this would be expensive as well

Thanks
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Post Posted: Jun 07, 2009 13:15 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I'd look at a Philips 5990 as it has most of those features and is fairly cheap. It's easy to attach a external HDD to it via USB.

riahc3
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Post Posted: Jun 07, 2009 15:34 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
redwudz wrote:
I'd look at a Philips 5990 as it has most of those features and is fairly cheap. It's easy to attach a external HDD to it via USB.

It looks pretty nice smile.gif 240V version?
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Post Posted: Jun 07, 2009 16:57 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
It's commonly sold in Europe, so I'm sure there is a 240V version. I believe it's the 5990/12. The US version sold here, the 5990/37, goes for about $60US. There are also a couple of threads on those players and mods for them: http://forum.videohelp.com/topic355440-30.html

riahc3
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Post Posted: Jun 07, 2009 18:10 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
redwudz wrote:
It's commonly sold in Europe, so I'm sure there is a 240V version. I believe it's the 5990/12. The US version sold here, the 5990/37, goes for about $60US. There are also a couple of threads on those players and mods for them: http://forum.videohelp.com/topic355440-30.html


Thanks. There is even a store in my town that carries it smile.gif Im gonna wait for some other opinions but thank you smile.gif
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Post Posted: Jun 07, 2009 21:27 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
If the 5990 has a downside, it's that it's cheaply built, but I've had good luck with them. smile.gif Keep your packaging material till the warranty expires. smile.gif

If you want a higher quality DVD player that has some of the same features, then Oppo has some great players, but a bit more expensive. You can buy several Philips for the price of one Oppo: http://www.oppodigital.com/

riahc3
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Post Posted: Jun 08, 2009 04:02 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
redwudz wrote:
If the 5990 has a downside, it's that it's cheaply built, but I've had good luck with them. smile.gif Keep your packaging material till the warranty expires. smile.gif

If you want a higher quality DVD player that has some of the same features, then Oppo has some great players, but a bit more expensive. You can buy several Philips for the price of one Oppo: http://www.oppodigital.com/


Define "cheaply built"
Can you believe this DVD player (DVP5990/12) costs $137.29 (99 euros) here?
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Post Posted: Jun 08, 2009 09:20 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
riahc3 wrote:

- Updatable (eg it can read CodecX 1 when I buy it but CodecX 2 comes out. I can update it to read CodecX 2 as well). This is almost impossible but oh well


This is an impossible requirement. Codec support has to do with the playback chip used in the player. Only under very rare conditions can a firmware upgrade allow you to play something not supported in the past. That only happens if the chip always supported the codec but the old firmware wouldn't play it and the new firmware will.

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Post Posted: Jun 08, 2009 09:43 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I use the Cyberhome 300s. It reads any region-PAL/NTSC. It plays everything I throw at it including DL.
Well built-not cheap plastic. You can get one on Ebay, as they are out of production. The price is right too.

Chris K
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Post Posted: Jun 08, 2009 11:41 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
riahc3 wrote:
Define "cheaply built"
Can you believe this DVD player (DVP5990/12) costs $137.29 (99 euros) here?

I paid 80 euro here (still not really cheap).

My findings;

1. The tray is very fragile (I advise to always close it with the button).
2. It only comes out for about 80% so be careful not to scratch your disks.
3. It has no S-VIDEO out (not even on the scart).
4. mpg/vob playback from usb is ok but navigation is poor (sometimes the player locks).
5. It doesn't play a VIDEO_TS structure from the usb.
6. DivX/XviD is good and plays smooth up to about ~4500 kbps.
7. Srt subs are displayed too high on the screen.
8. It nicely plays embedded subs added with AVIaddXsubs.

Philips swindles with the firmware update by simply changing the release date at the download link saying 2009-03-18.
When you open the zip, version V34 dated 2008-07-01 is still in it.

Still I'm reasonably happy with it because picture quality is good and the usb saves me a lot of time (and a burner) with test clips which I formerly had to burn on a DVD+RW.

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Post Posted: Jun 08, 2009 13:31 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I would agree with Chris K's conclusions. The unit is like a lot of other low end devices on the market. It functions well enough, but it is built to the minimal quality needed to ensure profit, not quality. Many electronic devices are now 'throw away' and not practical to repair, so Philips isn't much different that many other companies in that regard. But Philips seems to have no problem replacing a in-warranty unit, and that is a plus.

I rarely use mine for DVD playback. But the ability to play Divx/Xvid off a USB hard drive is probably it's best feature. And my model does have HDMI and coaxial digital audio output, so I don't miss S-video. smile.gif

To add, some of the subtitle faults can be improved by upgrading the firmware with a version from vb6rocod that I linked to earlier.

riahc3
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Post Posted: Jun 08, 2009 17:23 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I suppose there are HDMI to S-Video converters right?

Not having S-Video doesnt really bother me much.
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Post Posted: Jun 08, 2009 17:28 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
riahc3 wrote:
I suppose there are HDMI to S-Video converters right?

Sure, but it's much cheaper to buy a new, high end, DVD player. For example:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001EWQ98U/ref=asc_df_B001EWQ98U819780?s ... nkCode=asn
And they may not work with any HDCP protected device -- which is pretty much every piece of consumer electronics with an HDMI port.

riahc3
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Post Posted: Jun 08, 2009 21:26 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
jagabo wrote:
riahc3 wrote:
I suppose there are HDMI to S-Video converters right?

Sure, but it's much cheaper to buy a new, high end, DVD player. For example:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001EWQ98U/ref=asc_df_B001EWQ98U819780?s ... nkCode=asn
And they may not work with any HDCP protected device -- which is pretty much every piece of consumer electronics with an HDMI port.

You ain't kidding.
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Billf2099
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Post Posted: Jun 09, 2009 00:13 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Ummm, it has component out cables, which in general kicks the booty on anything coming over that ancient s-video technology. You have several options. Buy the older generation that didn't have HDMI on board but did have svideo. Or get a TV that can take component video or HDMI.

Seriously. Before I'd spend 200 dollars trying to convert to svideo I'd just buy a DVD recorder that had what I needed......

That 200 is best spent on a downpayment on a modern tv.

Chris K
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Post Posted: Jun 09, 2009 02:33 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
There are still a lot of people who love their CRT (even some who hate LCD technology) noexpression.gif

Then S-video is highly preferable above Composite which is still available on the 5990/12.

riahc3
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Post Posted: Jun 09, 2009 06:47 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Chris K wrote:
There are still a lot of people who love their CRT (even some who hate LCD technology) noexpression.gif

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Billf2099
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Post Posted: Jun 09, 2009 09:19 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
my JVC 32" is connected to a 5990 using the component cable in. I bought the TV expressly for that purpose. I have a different upscaling Philips connected to the big LCD. And a WD-TV as well.... I'll bet there are huge bargains available in a CRT with the right inputs about right now....

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Post Posted: Jun 09, 2009 10:10 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I will agree with Chris K that the 5990 will not play the Video_TS structure from the USB port but it will play the individual Vob files and continue with the next vob in a movie with a slight pause until the movie is complete. It's performance with Vobs is much better than what I get from my PS3.

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Post Posted: Jul 01, 2009 08:19 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I have just purchase a new Copy DVD Movies Software. But I was looking for some new features that allow copy from a protective data. Can you share what brand do you use?

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Post Posted: Jul 01, 2009 08:35 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
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