The Complete Guide To Making Blu-Ray Backups (1:1 Backups + BD5 Backups)

milOtis · Member Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Location: USA

When you shrink to a BD5 or BD9 (DVD sizes), then you MUST lose the HD version of the audio and let is downsample, or you will not be able to fit it on a DVD. The HD audio is like 3 or 4GB alone in size, which would fill up your whole DVD-R, so you cannot keep HD audio on a shrink down to BD5 or BD9, however you can keep it on a BD25, if you check the box in the options labeled "Keep HD Audio for BD25"

Thanks

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harrysue · Member Joined: 07 Jul 2009 Location: Australia

Thanks for reply. I did not realize the HD audio track was that big! It all makes sense now.

The opening paragraph of your introduction (in your guide) does say you can back-up HD Audio to a DVD, might need some revision there for those like me who do not know any better!

milOtis · Member Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Location: USA

siratfus · Member Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Location: United States

Milotis, I follow your guide and have been able to back-up my blu-rays perfectly with my notebook that's running windows vista. I don't necessarily understand why I have to do certain steps, or what the tools actually do.. I just follow and it works.

However, I want to move away from my notebook and do the work on my desktop which is running XP. It is not working, and I figure now is the time to actually learn and ask some questions. The step that I cannot get by is the mounting step with daemon tools. When I select my image, anydvd starts scanning, everything is fine. Daemon tools tray shows that the image is mounted. However, in BD Rebuilder... It keeps saying that the source is not BD format. I am 100% selecting the proper drive letter. One thing I do notice is that in Vista, the drive letter would also show the title of the movie when selecting source in BD Rebuilder or when manually clicking on MY COMPUTER and viewing all your drives, in XP, it is not showing the movie title in BD Rebuilder nor when you manually view all your drives in my computer, but your guide says it's okay as long as we select the proper drive.

I cannot pass this phase in XP, which brings this question to mind. Why do we need to mount it to Daemon tools in the first place? In BD Rebuilder, couldn't I just select the location of where the actual ripped image is? Why do we need to put it on the virtual drive and then select it from there?

Well, I would appreciate any advice on how to get Windows XP professional working with Daemon Tools, and a little education as well regarding my why question.

Thank you in advance!

rccland · Member Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: United States

When using AVCHD patcher 1.06 I keep getting incorrect file format error. I have heard maybe v1.04 would fix this but I cant seem to find it anywhere. Can someone plese post a link.

thank you very much.

fritzi93 · Member Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Location: U.S.

To siratfus: Try using another virtual drive, SlySoft for instance has one free of charge, forget the exact name. IIRC, some folks have had trouble using DaemonTools virtual drive (no idea precisely why) and oftentimes they have used a different one with success.

One other thing you might try if the above doesn't work is to re-install ffdshow and Haali media splitter.

As an aside, and in regard to +R/-R: I presume it depends on your player. I have a Sony BDP-S360, and use DVD+Rs, simply because I had a lot of them when I started doing BD backups and HDTV captures to AVCHD. They work just fine on that particular player. [shrugs]
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rccland · Member Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: United States

Hey fritzi93, in the forum below
http://forum.videohelp.com/topic371528.html

you had posted a note saying "Sure, use BDRB (BD_Rebuilder).

First you have to decrypt/rip the disc to your hard drive. At the moment, AnyDVDHD is pretty much the only option, and it's not free. But the 21-day trial *IS* free, and not crippled in any way, apart from not keeping settings and the nag screens. So you can try before you buy.

Here's a nice simple guide:

http://forum.videohelp.com/topic368581.html

Although it's specifically aimed at re-encoding to fit a BD-5 (or rather AVCHD on DVD-5), just change the option in BDRB to BD-25 and leave off patching the index.

Make certain you install the latest versions of: Avisynth, ffdshow, and Haali Splitter.

Good luck and post back how you're doing. And welcome to the forum"

Now my question is when you say "just change the option to BD-25 and leave off patching the index" are you saying I dont need to use AVCHD-patcher when I am doing BD-25????

Also, for some movies, I have noticed that that are extra folders besides BDMV and CERTIFICATE, should I burn all those folders or just stick with 2(BDMV and CERTIFICATE).

dedwin99 · Member Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: United States

after br rebuilder saves my movie how do I get imgburn to burn it as the automatic did not activate?

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rccland · Member Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: United States

Here is a quick guide on how to burn using imgburn
http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=9512

fritzi93 · Member Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Location: U.S.

PICKY737 · Member Joined: 19 Apr 2008 Location: United Kingdom

Re HD audio.Open BDrebuilder and click on settings at the top ,in the box that pops up there is a setting to keep HD audio for BD-25 just select it.I wouldn't try it for BD-5 as the audio file would be quite large and that would compromise the video quality.
As for the method used to convert I use a very similar process but as I only ever use movie only mode what I do is use a program called BDinfo to see which is the playlist for the main movie and then open that mpls file in tsmuxer then select the audio track I need and save as a Blu-ray folder on my hard drive.(tsmuxer rips the files direct off your blu-ray disc with anydvd hd running)This gives me a folder with only the bits I need, saving time ripping all the extras,menus etc which will only be deleted later anyway.Bdrebuilder can use this file as its' source just like it does with a mounted iso.I've had 100% success up to now using this method.

Choppermike · Member Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: United States

siratfus · Member Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Location: United States

I see people ready to spend on Anydvd, but honestly, I would advise to wait a little longer till backing up blu-rays becomes 2nd nature like dvds. Right now, there is just too many uncertainties. With dvds, you can experiment all you want and throw away .40 cent coasters, and not much of your time. With blu-rays, it is extremely frustrating to wait 2 days for your movie to shrink, burn onto a $3 25gb disc and get that sick feeling in your stomach when it doesn't play.

I've followed this milotis pdf exactly every time, including patching with 1.06 and it's been hit or miss. I've gotten a few good back-ups and I've gotten a few $3 coasters. I've done 4 and it has been 50% success. The 2 coasters for me are "Knowing" and the "Prestige."

Anybody else happen to have problems with these movies? Otherwise, I'm giving up! I'm going to let go my BH08 burner for $140 shipped. It's only been used for 4 sessions. PM me if interested. I'm going back to ripping main movie for TS play back.

fritzi93 · Member Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Location: U.S.

Choppermike · Member Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: United States

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igotafeelin · Member Joined: 12 Aug 2009 Location: United Kingdom

As the quality of a BD5 video is as good as the BD9 why can't a BD9 sacrifice some space to hold the HD audio track.
This would mean excellent picture & awesome sound on a dual layer DVD.

GINO6969 · Member Joined: 02 Oct 2009 Location: Canada

Can Anyone Help Me... Im Confused.... I dont know what im doing wrong!

I did a few full disc back up with BDRB/anydvdHD without a problem.

now im stuck with 3 movie that make me spend a few coaster!

The Dark Knight (full disc mode) dont play at all
What happen in vegas (full disc mode) it boot until the menu and after i press play i stay stuck at the fbi warning.
Iron Man (full disc mode) it boot until the menu and after i press play i stay stuck at at the filmrating.

any help?

i think i should invest on BD-RE lol

harrysue · Member Joined: 07 Jul 2009 Location: Australia

jamdonot · Member Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Location: United Kingdom

Hello, as you can see from my postings, I am totally new. I gave the guide a go, worked perfectly first time on my copy of Watchmen, however the audio is out of sync, is there any way I can fix this. Also, I was totally blown away the quality, on my 46" LCD, really couldnt tell the difference, and I went down to a BD5.

Cheers for the reply, oh, and the video is ahead of the audio.

thirdman2002 · Member Joined: 04 Nov 2009 Location: United States

milOtis

Thanks so much for all of your work trying to assist newbes like me in the rather obscure art of copying BDs. I am so impressed and inspired that I think I may have a go at this.

I note you have not posted in a few weeks now on this thread. I hope this does not imply that you are abandoning your fans out here. Please continue your efforts!

wjmeyer · Member Joined: 14 Jul 2004 Location: New Orleans

Great guide - it worked fine on first try. The video on the copy (BD-25 disk) looks identical to the orig. blu-ray.
If I keep the HD audio track (whick I know uses more disk space), instead of DD track, will it have much of a negative impact on the HD video quality?
Also, does anyone know if Virtual Clone Drive will work in place of Daemon. Again thanks for great guide.
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titot4u · Member Joined: 13 Nov 2009 Location: United States

milOtis,

The instructions you posted are awesome, except I had some small issues following instructions since the freewares you recommend to use were updated to a later version, but it didn't take much effort to figure it out.

My question is: After burning to my BD5, I noticed a huge delay on the audio playback. Is there any way to correct this problem?

Thanks