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Ogilvy
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Post Posted: Jan 21, 2009 17:31 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

This problem with sticky labels....does it also apply to .avi(XViD) content or are we only speaking of „full-dvd“ content?
Also, is the problem limited to stand-alone players?


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Post Posted: Jan 21, 2009 17:36 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

stick on adhesive labels should not be used on any type of disc for any purpose.

LCSHG
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Post Posted: Feb 06, 2009 19:26 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

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'stick on adhesive labels should not be used on any type of disc for any purpose.

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Why


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Post Posted: Feb 06, 2009 20:06 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

added weight wears out drive motors. increased imbalance wears out laser focus motors. adhesive is bad for the plastic.

jagabo
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Post Posted: Feb 06, 2009 20:14 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I think the labels warp the discs. The coefficient of thermal expansion is different for paper and plastic. And the label and glue may expand or contract with age, humidity, etc.

I used to think it was a balance issue but I once removed half the label from a disc that wouldn't play. The thing rattled like hell but the video played.

Of course, the problem doesn't have to be the same with every player, label, and disc. So there may be a combination of issues. And yes, it's a problem for data discs as well as movie DVDs.


INFRATOM
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Post Posted: Feb 07, 2009 03:35 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I think I was the only one who did it successfully because I made a jig to precisely center it. But some were freezing on my son's portable player and every now and then on mine so I gave up the idea, marker is the easiest and light subscribe probably next and print on after that. Media and dvd players are not that expensive to ruin things go ahead and try a few but buy thin labels if you can and glossy with small holes so it would be easier to center. You can remove the labels by putting them in water over night and label comes off and residue if any clean with alcohol. Before anyone jumping at me I said for fun and sake of trying, I bought a bunch of dvds from fry's $14 for a hundred pack and they were all Taiyo Yuden labeled as CG and they were printables too. I played SAW 5 recently and the dvd player goes crazy it make it spin up and down and at super speed with such a noise that I took it out, I didn't want it to ruin my Oppo so even a manufactured dvd could ruin a player.

Cole
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Post Posted: Feb 07, 2009 03:42 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

In the dim distant past when I experimented with stick-on labels (VCD days) one of the labels peeled itself off the CD, within the DVD Player, during playback.

I never used them again.
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LCSHG
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Post Posted: Feb 07, 2009 20:10 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Labels

I had put on a number of self -s tick labels
I was having problems and this was blamed on the labels, Balance, weight, etc.
I was advised that the labels were at fault, TAKE UM OFF
OK so I went to remove them This was not easy and very sticky, the Verbatim disks were the worse because of a film that was on them.. I gave the whole removal thing up.

This was all, a long time ago.
In the mean time I was having problems with the DVD drives themselves. Evan though the advice was to replace them I felt they could be saved and spent a lot of time on them

I finally pulled the drives on alll 12 of my personal units and some 35 fiends units and replaced them. At the same time I developed [found ] a proper way to use and reuse RW disks.

I still have more than 300 disks with labels. They are 3-4 years old, are not out of balance, create excessive wear, warp the disks, come loose, etc. They work perfectly

I gave up using Labels some 3 years ago, BECAUSE the time spent wasn’t worth it


jagabo
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Post Posted: Feb 07, 2009 21:18 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I probably made about 30 discs with labels several years ago when I first started making DVDs. They all played fine in my DVD player at the time and in the computer. Then one day I got a new DVD player. Almost all the discs with labels didn't play properly in the new player. After removing the labels they all played fine once again.

Now, several DVD writers and DVD players later I occasionally stumble across a disc with a label still on it. They usually don't play. Removing the label has always fixed them.


Ogilvy
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Post Posted: Feb 08, 2009 22:31 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Goodbye labels & thanks for the useful information

hayleyjd
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Joined: 01 Mar 2009
Location: New Zealand

Post Posted: Mar 01, 2009 01:46 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Ogilvy wrote:
Goodbye labels & thanks for the useful information
Hi there
I have just joined the forum
because I have been reading about the lableing on CDs and DVDs
I found it all very interesting.
I have the neato software for doing this.
after reading on all this today
I thought that I would go and see what I could find.
so I found this.
would you still recamond that I dont do it with my DVDs
thay do look so nice though.

any thoughts would be great thanks.

Cheers
hayleyjd

Highest quality standards:

Labels are heat and age tested for permanent adhesion
Will not damage disks
Safe for printing equipment


lordsmurf
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Post Posted: Mar 01, 2009 03:47 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

If you insist on having pretty pictures on your discs, then use inkjet media.
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pepegot1
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Post Posted: Mar 01, 2009 10:21 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I have used sticky labels for years with issue.

turk690
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Post Posted: Mar 01, 2009 15:54 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Maybe you mean without issue...?
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jagabo
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Post Posted: Mar 01, 2009 17:15 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

It's only a matter of time...

piano632
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Post Posted: Mar 01, 2009 20:55 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Some of the public libraries around me put clear labels on all their CD's with metal theft strips underneath. They don't seem to harm the discs, but they do strain the player sometimes.

I don't know what possessed me to buy some of these labels, but I did. I was thinking about protecting the vulnerable label side of CD-R's, but is it worth it. The ones I got aren't totally clear, more of a frosty clear and it's hard to put them on without getting trapped air bubbles. It's practically impossible to take them off without destroying the disc.

But if you ever need some frosty clear labels, here's where to get them:
http://www.vernonlibrarysupplies.com/cgi-bin/vernlib.cgi/6690CD.html


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