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Verbatim Fakes At Futureshop?
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ROBERT BLACK
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Post Posted: Dec 28, 2008 20:20 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I just came accross made in China Verbatims from Futureshop. Are they outsourcing to China as well as India or are these in all likelyhood fakes?

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS1 ... ;langid=EN

You would believe Futureshop would check their sources a little better than that.

ROBERT BLACK
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Post Posted: Dec 29, 2008 21:48 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
So no one has seen these Made in China Verbatims? Has anyone bought them?

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Post Posted: Dec 29, 2008 22:02 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Well....
I buy all my Verbatims locally, never online.

Also, i can not find where it states those are made in china ??
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Post Posted: Dec 30, 2008 19:46 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I saw a mention of Chinese Verbatims at another site but didn't get any details.

Have there been any cases of retail fakes before in the US or Canada?

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Post Posted: Dec 31, 2008 07:45 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I've heard of MIC Verbatims in the EU market, but it looks like they've made their way to NA.

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I happened to be in Future Shop today and saw these as I was standing in line at the checkout. Label on the back said they were made in Taiwan so I bought a pack just to try them out. Burned a few and they seem to be typical Verbatim discs.

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Post Posted: Dec 31, 2008 23:02 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Well...
I'm still waiting to be shown these are MIC.......
Or any MIC Verbatims online for sale in the U.S.
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Post Posted: Dec 31, 2008 23:24 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I live in Hong Kong. You'd think if there were Made-In-China Verbatims we'd see them here. But I've only noticed Taiwan and Japan on the labels. (I buy the Japanese ones myself, made by Taiyo Yuden.)

ROBERT BLACK
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Post Posted: Jan 03, 2009 14:31 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
libiec wrote:
I happened to be in Future Shop today and saw these as I was standing in line at the checkout. Label on the back said they were made in Taiwan so I bought a pack just to try them out. Burned a few and they seem to be typical Verbatim discs.


The MIC Verbatims are only the 10pcs and look exactly like the link photo above. Check the label. Some are Made In Taiwan, majority have the made in China label at the back.. I bought the MIT and I agree they burn fine. Haven't scanned them in Nero yet.

I've only seen then in Futureshop.

MikeW
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Post Posted: Jan 04, 2009 17:41 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Yeah, I just bought several packs of Chinese-made Verbatims myself.

They're manufactured by CMC Magnetics, who has begun producing more and more Verbatim media in China, as opposed to just Taiwan. So far, every disc has burned and played back fine (TRT), although I'm currently unable to perform any scans.

Based on what others have said, I'd expect error counts to be higher than those of Taiwanese discs. However, given the stability of this particular dye, there's a good chance that degradation won't be an issue.

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Post Posted: Jan 05, 2009 20:41 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
MikeW wrote:
Yeah, I just bought several packs of Chinese-made Verbatims myself.

They're manufactured by CMC Magnetics, who has begun producing more and more Verbatim media in China, as opposed to just Taiwan. So far, every disc has burned and played back fine (TRT), although I'm currently unable to perform any scans.

Based on what others have said, I'd expect error counts to be higher than those of Taiwanese discs. However, given the stability of this particular dye, there's a good chance that degradation won't be an issue.



Thank You Mike. I would assume they have the Mitsubishi media codes?

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Post Posted: Jan 05, 2009 22:44 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
ROBERT BLACK wrote:
Thank You Mike. I would assume they have the Mitsubishi media codes?


Yep, MCC 03RG20.

ROBERT BLACK
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MikeW wrote:
ROBERT BLACK wrote:
Thank You Mike. I would assume they have the Mitsubishi media codes?


Yep, MCC 03RG20.



The same code as the similarly packaged Taiwanese discs.

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Post Posted: Jan 08, 2009 17:03 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Verbatim "made in China" CD-R have been common for a while now, though most of it was outside the USA.
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Post Posted: Jan 09, 2009 11:53 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I am very confused, why would anyone pay $1 each when discs can be bought for at most $0.50 each including shipping, eg: Taiyo Yuden/Verbatim on sale.
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ROBERT BLACK
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Post Posted: Jan 09, 2009 20:20 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
victoriabears wrote:
I am very confused, why would anyone pay $1 each when discs can be bought for at most $0.50 each including shipping, eg: Taiyo Yuden/Verbatim on sale.


The were going for $0.30 cents each until recently.

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Post Posted: Feb 17, 2009 16:29 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I just purchased severals packages of these 10 dvd-rs. I purchased them at Futureshop for $1.99 per package. They are labeled made in China...

DVD Identifier reports the following...

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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:MCC 03RG20 ]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [MCC 03RG20 ]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4.71 GB (4.38 GiB)]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ DVD Identifier V5.2.0 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Post Posted: Feb 21, 2009 03:25 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Exchange rates are a major reason at prices jumping a lot.
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ROBERT BLACK
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Post Posted: Mar 17, 2009 01:38 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
kenmo wrote:
I just purchased severals packages of these 10 dvd-rs. I purchased them at Futureshop for $1.99 per package. They are labeled made in China...

DVD Identifier reports the following...

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:MCC 03RG20 ]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [MCC 03RG20 ]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4.71 GB (4.38 GiB)]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ DVD Identifier V5.2.0 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------



Just a heads up that sale for $1.99 a 10 pc is currently on at Futureshop until Thursday. All the packs seem to be Chinese made CMC Verbatim. They've scanned and tested well so far. No visible irregularities in the dye either.

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