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DVD to h.264 -- with multiple audio and subtitle tracks

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Ozo
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Post Posted: Aug 19, 2008 00:31 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I am trying to compress some DVD (or VOBs) to h.264. At this point, the exact choice of the h.264 encoder and file container (AVI, MKV, MP4, etc.) is not really important to me, ... as far as quality is OK and that it can be read by VLC. I will focus on these details at a later time.

But what IS important (to me) is to be able to keep at least two audio tracks as well as two subtitles tracks (ex: both English and French audio and subtitles tracks). With VLC, I would then be able to select which audio track to hear, and which subtitle track to display, if any.

I looked at the latest versions of DVDFab, FairUse Wizard, AutoGK and HandBrake. Unless I am missing something, none of them support preserving two audio tracks AND two subtitle tracks. DVDFab only supports one audio track; FairUse only supports one subtitle track; AutoGK does not seem to do h.264 at all and HandBrake seems to be limited to a single subtitle track as well. Please note that I just tried these software once and may have skipped over some nices features.

So I am wondering if there is a software (free or not) that can do that? Please note that I am quite new to DVD conversion and would prefer a software that's relatively easy to use, i.e. with simplified options or some sort of pre-validated presets.

Can anyone comment on the right toolset and procedure?

Thanks,

Ozo.


Last edited by Ozo on Aug 19, 2008 14:39, edited 3 times in total


Baldrick
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Post Posted: Aug 19, 2008 02:36 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I guess it would be easiest to use fairuse wizard or handbrake and convert to mkv or mp4 with h264. Then rip the subtitles you want to keep using vsrip to idx,sub files. Add/Multiplex the subtitle files to the mkv using mkvmerge or mp4 using YAmb.

Ozo
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Post Posted: Aug 19, 2008 13:35 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Baldrick wrote:
Then rip the subtitles you want to keep using vsrip to idx,sub files. Add/Multiplex the subtitle files to the mkv using mkvmerge or mp4 using YAmb.


Great idea. I will give it a try.
Should I be worried about subtitles synchronization with the audio tracks (because of using a different tool for subtitles)?

Thanks,

Ozo.


Ozo
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Post Posted: Aug 21, 2008 16:22 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Ok, I tried a lot of different tools and applications to do this, i.e. convert from DVD (VOBs) to h.264 while keeping two audio and subtitle tracks. I found no tool (free or not) that can do it while offering enough control on the conversion to be of any real use. It kills me how someone can design a DVD converter tool and ignore that some people may want to keep all audio and subtitles tracks. Anyway.

The best solution that I found (so far) is:

1. Rip your movie to VOBs (ex: using DVDFab)
2. Use HandBrake to convert your VIDEO_TS folder to a h.264 MKV file
--> Select the two audio tracks you want to keep (2 audio tracks max with HandBrake!)
--> Select no subtitles tracks ("none")
--> Select the .MKV format for the output file (HandBrake defaults to MP4)
--> ** [Edit] : Note that HandBrake fully uses 100% of my four cores! Many other apps were only using one core!
3. Use VSRip to extract all subtitles tracks you want from the VOBs
--> You give the VTS_01_0.IFO as input
--> It creates one pair of sub/idx files containing all subtitle tracks
4. Use mkvmerge GUI to merge the sub/idx and the MKV files together
--> Drag and drop the original MKV file as well as the IDX file into the "Input File" box
--> Mux and save as a new MKV file (with subs included)

End result: a MKV file with h.264 video, two audio tracks and as many subtitles tracks as yoy grabbed with VSRip.

Note: I tried using MP4 (instead of MKV), but had problems with YAmp.

Note2: I also just found out that VLC is not stable when playing MKV files. It can crash when seeking back and forth in the file. Other containers may be a better solution if you intend to play back using VLC.

Note3: There is Nero Recode v3 that still need to be tested, but I am afraid of its bloated installation. I may still try it today.

Regards,


gonzus
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Post Posted: Apr 24, 2009 08:09 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Ozo wrote:
Ok, I tried a lot of different tools and applications to do this, i.e. convert from DVD (VOBs) to h.264 while keeping two audio and subtitle tracks. I found no tool (free or not) that can do it while offering enough control on the conversion to be of any real use. It kills me how someone can design a DVD converter tool and ignore that some people may want to keep all audio and subtitles tracks. Anyway.

The best solution that I found (so far) is:

1. Rip your movie to VOBs (ex: using DVDFab)
2. Use HandBrake to convert your VIDEO_TS folder to a h.264 MKV file
--> Select the two audio tracks you want to keep (2 audio tracks max with HandBrake!)
--> Select no subtitles tracks ("none")
--> Select the .MKV format for the output file (HandBrake defaults to MP4)
--> ** [Edit] : Note that HandBrake fully uses 100% of my four cores! Many other apps were only using one core!
3. Use VSRip to extract all subtitles tracks you want from the VOBs
--> You give the VTS_01_0.IFO as input
--> It creates one pair of sub/idx files containing all subtitle tracks
4. Use mkvmerge GUI to merge the sub/idx and the MKV files together
--> Drag and drop the original MKV file as well as the IDX file into the "Input File" box
--> Mux and save as a new MKV file (with subs included)

End result: a MKV file with h.264 video, two audio tracks and as many subtitles tracks as yoy grabbed with VSRip.

Note: I tried using MP4 (instead of MKV), but had problems with YAmp.

Note2: I also just found out that VLC is not stable when playing MKV files. It can crash when seeking back and forth in the file. Other containers may be a better solution if you intend to play back using VLC.

Note3: There is Nero Recode v3 that still need to be tested, but I am afraid of its bloated installation. I may still try it today.

Regards,


I know it has been some time, but I wanted to thank Ozo for posting these instructions. This is EXACTLY what I have been doing in order to convert my DVD collection into a digital library.

I have added a couple more steps in order to add chapter names to the ripped movies (instead of plain "Chapter 1", "Chapter 2", etc.):

3.1 Use mkvextract to extract the chapter list and timings from the handbrake-ripped movie into a text file. mkvextract is installed as a command-line utility along with mkvmerge.
3.2 Download or (gasp!) type the chapter names into a text file. I have found the Barnes & Noble web site to be a good source of chapter names.
3.3 Merge these two files by hand or with a script.
4.1 Before merging everything with mkvmerge, specify the desired chapter file.

Hope that helps and best regards.


chirayuw
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Post Posted: May 10, 2009 12:42 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I wanted to ask How do I sync the subs to the video after it has been coverted, cos the sub's will rip at dvd timing not converted video timing?

buzzqw
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Post Posted: May 10, 2009 13:06 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

HDConvertToX allow an arbitrary number of audio ans subs tracks..

BHH

P.S. maybe you will wait tomorrow, since i will publish a full update
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gonzus
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Post Posted: May 10, 2009 15:13 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

chirayuw wrote:
I wanted to ask How do I sync the subs to the video after it has been coverted, cos the sub's will rip at dvd timing not converted video timing?


I have never done anything special, the subs end up synced to the H.264 video perfectly.

Good luck.


gonzus
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Post Posted: May 10, 2009 15:15 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

buzzqw wrote:
HDConvertToX allow an arbitrary number of audio ans subs tracks..

BHH

P.S. maybe you will wait tomorrow, since i will publish a full update


Thanks for the pointer.


Viper_Bravo
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Location: United States

Post Posted: Aug 05, 2009 17:00 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Using HandBreak, in the Video tab what Constant Quality do u all recommend? At 100% will the MKV be the same size as the VOB?

Also can I use HandBreaks option to have Chapters in the finished KMV or do i have to use the mkvextract/mkvmerge method?


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