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Need a composite converter that can do widescreen

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Try4ce
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Post Posted: Jun 30, 2008 09:33 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I need a device that will convert video from another source (probably VGA but I can make other conversions if necessary) to composite or s-video. My main concern is that widescreen sources will come out as vertically stretched. Is there a converter that can output composite or s-video that can switch to a letterbox mode and output these images in their proper proportions?

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Post Posted: Jun 30, 2008 09:48 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

VGA doesn't have a widescreen setting, so conversion from VGA will most likely result in 4:3 letterbox if you use a 4:3 resolution (e.g. 800 x 600) or squashed if you use a widescreen resolution. There is no 16:9 flag in VGA output.
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Try4ce
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Post Posted: Jun 30, 2008 09:59 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I should clarify that the original source is 480p widescreen, with some sources as 480i 4:3. The source will be component video output. I've found a converter from component to VGA that accepts 480i or 480p.

Thus, the chain is component (variable between 16:9 and 4:3)... to VGA (unless a conversion to another format might exist)... to composite or s-video.

As far as I know, there is no simple conversion from component to composite or S-video if the component connection might have 480p sources. Please let me know if I'm wrong.


Try4ce
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Post Posted: Jun 30, 2008 13:41 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

It would even be fine if the device had a function for vertical scaling. At work, we have the Grandtec PC to Video Component, and I just discovered that it has such a function. For my purposes, however, I need more vertical squishing than it can do... it is somewhat limited. If any converter had vertical/horizontal adjustments so that I could make a near-16:9 ratio, I would be completely happy.

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Post Posted: Jun 30, 2008 15:07 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Why is VGA in the loop?
What are you trying to accomplish?
What is your display?
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Try4ce
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Post Posted: Jun 30, 2008 20:55 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

VGA is in the loop because I can't find any solution to converting 480p to composite/s-video without first converting to VGA. 480p capture apparently doesn't exist.

The ultimate accomplishment is to stream video games while still playing them on my TV. Thus, the "display" is the broadcast window in my browser, which is taken in by a common USB capture device.


edDV
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Post Posted: Jun 30, 2008 21:45 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Do I have this right?

You want to play games at 480p and real time capture 480p to a computer and also stream live to the internet? Stream in what format?
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Try4ce
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Post Posted: Jun 30, 2008 22:04 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I currently use Justin.tv for live streaming. I don't have a USB capture device yet.

I realize I am going to have to split my component cable using a powered device to avoid loss of quality on my TV set.

I don't care about capturing the video, just streaming. Thus, the video will probably have to end up as 480i (as far as I can tell). Since stream quality is only so high, I'm not overly concerned with what the image looks like by the time it gets to my computer. What DOES matter is that it looks just as good on my TV as it always has.


edDV
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Post Posted: Jun 30, 2008 23:16 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

480p capture is expensive currently. $400 up and your computer probably isn't fast enough for real time progressive conversion to a stream. Maybe others have an idea.

480i has many capture options also streaming software support.
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