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avter converted mkv to mp4 the file is 1.53 Gig

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d2idan
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Post Posted: Jun 19, 2008 11:06 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

i converted an mkv file like the guide here in this site about XVID4PSP
good software i used all the right setting and i choosed ULTRA X264
the best quality and it converted it to 1.53 Gig
and when i choosed 4000 K X264 .. less quality . it was 4 Gig
how can it be ?



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Post Posted: Jun 19, 2008 13:31 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Most likely you picked "Constant Quality" mode= unknown size...set to either "Pass Bitrate" or "Pass size" mode and set to desired bitrate or size..........
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d2idan
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Post Posted: Jun 19, 2008 17:09 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

ok thanks
and the quality will be much better ?


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Post Posted: Jun 19, 2008 17:48 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Generally, using a higher bitrate will yield a bigger file size and better video or audio quality while a lower bitrate will give you a lower file size but worse video or audio quality. If your concern is file size,as your thread title suggests, then in XviD4PSP adjust bitrate and keep an eye on the file size,and set to your goal....
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d2idan
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Post Posted: Jun 20, 2008 04:47 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

i can choose what bitrate i want ?
i just need to enter it ?
i see when i choose this 3 - bitrare pass option in 4048 .
i can write there even 7000 bitrate ?


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Post Posted: Jun 20, 2008 06:26 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I've read that a bitrate of 4000kbps - 5000kbps is usually a good range for a normal length movie when using 720p resolution. I would use as high a bitrate that will allow you to fit the movie onto a DVD disc so 4.0GB - 4.3GB is the range you would want.

When using XviD4PSP I would use the "MP4 PS3" or "MP4 XBOX 360" profile for the video. This will make the video compliant for not only those two devices (the two profiles are identical for video) but also ensure compatibility with other hardware assisted playback solutions (like high end video cards or the popular AMD 780G chipset).

These two profiles default to Constant Quality with a Quantizer of 21 so you would want to switch to 2-pass (3-pass is overkill) bitrate mode and then set the bitrate so that your final file size is in the 4.0GB - 4.3GB file size range. This way you can burn your MP4 file to a DVD as a DATA DVD.

As I said when using 720p resolution this method should give excellent final quality except perhaps for very long (like 2.5 hours) movies.

Please note that the PS3 supports 5.1 AAC whereas the XboX 360 only supports 2.0 AAC and you want to use AAC-LC no matter what.

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Post Posted: Jun 20, 2008 08:15 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Hi Fulci, glad you joined in...I see the new version of XviD4PSP has some new added features and fixes..can't wait to try it out...
BTW for those interested in converting MKV 1080p or 720p to standard DVD,try the new FAVC, worked great on a sample for me....
Cheers!... smile.gif
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Post Posted: Jun 24, 2008 08:17 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

i converted mkv file which is 4.8 Gig , the movie hitman.,
i use XVID4PSP, and first i choosed constant quality and the file was 1.53 Gig
but then i choosed 3 - pass , or something like that with 8000 K bitrate and the output should be 6 Gig and now it just 2.91 Gig . and the conversation time was about 2 days, and also i cant play it on my xbox 360 because its say that the file may be not supported error code
69-c00d10e0
on WMP11 the file is work very good.


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what should i do
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and i tried to split with yamb and it wont allow me there's a problem. an error it say split failed.
here's the log file :

[15:12:59] : Yamb 2.0.0.8 started !!!
[15:12:59] : OS type detection...Windows XP Professional (version 5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
[15:12:59] : MP4Box found... c:\program files\yamb\mp4box.exe
[15:12:59] : Tagger is missing...
[15:13:16] : hitman.mp4 loaded....
[15:14:29] : Split hitman.mp4 from 00:00 to 45:12...
[15:14:29] : Command Line used for the splitting : "c:\program files\yamb\mp4box.exe" -splitx 0:162720 "C:\HH\hitman.mp4"
[15:14:30] : Error opening file C:\HH\hitman.mp4: IsoMedia File is truncated
[15:14:30] : Splitting failed.
[15:14:38] : Yamb 2.0.0.8 closed.


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Post Posted: Jun 24, 2008 08:27 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

It appears your file isn't complete. Does it play all the way through ?
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Post Posted: Jun 24, 2008 08:45 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Make sure you use the MP4 PS3 or XBOX360 Format
Choose 2-pass ,set Bitrate between 4000 - 5000kbps, use AAC-LC ABR 128 2ch audio..should work on your Xbox...

Hey guns, I believe OP stated that it played, "work very good" on PC....
But yeah I wonder if it plays all the way through!....
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d2idan
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Post Posted: Jun 24, 2008 11:29 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

well it wont play all the way. i've checked it play almost all the way.
but please someone tell me why is that ? i did everything good with the configuration like i've been told here in the guide that someone added. and if my file dont work all the way. why in XVID4PSP the conversation took 2 days and at the end it said "conversation ended succesfully !! ? . or something like that idont remember


and about what you said,
the quality is better when i choose 8000 K bitrate and 3 - pass
it should work no ?

i mean for me not, but for you ...
because the idea is to see in the xbox 360 the best quality . so why choose 2 - pass and bitrate of 5000 ?

later you can split the mp4 in YAMB.


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Post Posted: Jun 24, 2008 18:56 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Fill in your computer specs in your profile. The only reason I can think of that it took two days is that you have an old, slow computer. You can't play it all the way through because you either stopped it before it finished encoding, it crashed before it finished encoding, or you didn't download the entire file.
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d2idan
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Post Posted: Jun 26, 2008 06:35 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

ok so i convert it again by xvid4psp with the good options ..
for my xbox 360 (mp4 ) but now i used like you said 4000 bitrate and 2 - pass
well the conversation was good and the file size is 3.38 Gig but again i haveing this problem in the xbox which say error code : 69-c00d10e0

and the movie play perfectly on WMP11 and i updated my xbox .. what is the problem ?


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Post Posted: Jun 26, 2008 08:30 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

d2idan wrote:
ok so i convert it again by xvid4psp with the good options ..
for my xbox 360 (mp4 ) but now i used like you said 4000 bitrate and 2 - pass
well the conversation was good and the file size is 3.38 Gig but again i haveing this problem in the xbox which say error code : 69-c00d10e0

and the movie play perfectly on WMP11 and i updated my xbox .. what is the problem ?

What audio settings did you use?

Did you try to burn to a DVD disc (as a data DVD) and play it THAT way on your XboX 360?

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Do a MediaInfo screenshot of this new file
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d2idan
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Post Posted: Jun 26, 2008 09:54 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

no.. streaming with WMP11 or TVersity.
audio was AAC-LC ABR 128K
the setting was good. and the video : X264 Q21 TURBO.. and there in setting i did 4888 birtrate and 2 - pass.
and also i tried to split the file in idea that maybe he's too big , i can split the file but even then it wont work.

what are the differents between Q21 and Q18 .. maybe the mp4 dont play on my xbox 360 because i choosed Q21 and i need to choose Q18 ?

and now the error code is different .. it : 69-c00d119a


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Post Posted: Jun 26, 2008 13:33 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Well you shouldn't have any probs streaming with those settings, however why not try a different sample clip with same settings and see if it works... xvid4PSP is pretty good at converting to .mp4 so far! (knock on wood).... smile.gif

Or try with MeGui or RipBot,or GotSent....
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d2idan
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Post Posted: Jun 26, 2008 14:57 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

i want something that will stick the subtitles ... without loosing quality .
xvid4psp i think is the best with subtitles no ?


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Post Posted: Jun 26, 2008 15:27 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Well I don't know about best, but you could try the others I posted above...
http://www.bitburners.com/articles/convert-mkv-files-to-mp4-for-p ... sent/4055/
And for the PS3,
http://www.bitburners.com/articles/create-avchd-discs-with-subtit ... uxer/4047/
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d2idan
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Post Posted: Jun 27, 2008 10:45 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

but i still dont know the problem in xvid4psp ..
what are the differents between X264 Q18 and X264 Q21 ?

and this is my movie info. look its all good



d2idan
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Post Posted: Jun 29, 2008 13:56 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

someone ?

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Post Posted: Jun 29, 2008 15:07 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

If your streaming to the Xbox, you'll have to use AAC 2 ch audio not 6 channel...And as far as the difference between Q18 and Q21, most likely the lower the value the better the quality the slower the process,or the other way around!...Not sure though,try a sample clip and see...
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d2idan
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Post Posted: Jun 29, 2008 17:50 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

ok thanks
the aac 2 ch works ..
but i see wierd dots .. a lot of dots that make the quality lower.
why is that ?


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Post Posted: Jun 29, 2008 20:41 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Post a screenshot. Weird dots doesn't mean much as a description.
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d2idan
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Post Posted: Jun 30, 2008 06:38 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

i dont see a smooth picture..
i see with dots .. ok , i dont have good camera but will give it a try


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Post Posted: Jun 30, 2008 06:41 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

The dots should also appear when you play the video on your PC. If they don't then they aren't in the video.
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d2idan
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Post Posted: Jul 01, 2008 04:13 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

yea , they appear in my PC too ..
well i think its the conversation no ?
maybe sometimes it happens i dont know..


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Post Posted: Jul 01, 2008 04:38 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Again, screenshots. If they are there on your PC, you can grab them. It might be something simple to clear up, but you need to help us help you.
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