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coody
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If copy the music CD as the MP3 format, can the CD carry more MP3 format songs than the non MP3 format?
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guns1inger
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Location: Merry old land of Aus
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Yes. Potentially many hours can be stored on a CD as MP3 audio. However the disc has to be burned as a data disc, and will not play in conventional CD audio players.
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AlanHK
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| coody wrote: |
| If copy the music CD as the MP3 format, can the CD carry more MP3 format songs than the non MP3 format? |
Standard audio CD is about 72 minutes. As a data disc, a CDR can hold 650-800 MB (most are 800 these days).
Size of MP3s depends on quality. At 128k bitrate, a standard, some would say low-fi setting, you get about 1 minute per MB. So about 800 minutes per CD. Double the bitrate, get about 400 minutes.
Of course, it won't play on a standard audio CD player. Probably will on a DVD or VCD player. And if you're using a DVD player, a DVD holds about six times as much data as a CD.
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zoobie
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains
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some guy stuck over 1400 mp3 songs on a dvd...
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coody
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I plan to combine several musical CDs and copy them into the Hard Drive Disc as an MP3 format and then burn all the MP3 songs into a CDR disc. Can I copy MP3 format songs into a regular 80 min/700MB CD-R disc?
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guns1inger
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Yes, as data files.
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coody
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Can MP3 format songs be copied into a DVD disc, by the way? If so, what is the difference between the MP3 DVD and CD copy?
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poisondeathray
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Location: Canada
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| Can MP3 format songs be copied into a DVD disc, by the way? If so, what is the difference between the MP3 DVD and CD copy? |
If you convert original CD audio to MP3 format, you are compressing it and losing quality. If you use a high enough bitrate, most people can't tell, unless you are an audiophile or have an expensive setup for listening - at the expense of fitting more songs of course
What you are doing is burning as a "data disk" - so most players cannot read this. Only your PC. To answer your question, the difference between a DVD full of MP3's and a CD full of MP3's (both burned as data disks) is size. 700MB vs. ~4400MB
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edsmith77
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MP3s as others have stated will not play in OLDER standard CD players. Most of the newer versions out today will play MP3s quite nicely.
In fact I convert my favorite books on CDs, to 56Kb MP3 and most generally, I can get about 14 hours of voice audio on one CD. Note my CD player will handle MP3s. But only 300 on one disc (a limitation of the player).
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DereX888
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Location: beautiful
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Some years ago I have wrote a guide how to put CDs to DVDs and have them playable on standard DVD players (it is still somewhere here in the All Guides section, "CDDA to DVD" subject or such). If you want to preserve the original CD's quality and in the same time "bundle" bunch of them on a single DVD disc with selectable-by-song menus, you should give it a try.
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here:
http://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/193049.php
However all or almost all (probably 99%) of the modern standalone dvd players can play Data DVDs with MP3 files on them. If you don't care about the sound quality and choose MP3 compression, just follow poisondeathray's suggestion (simply burn all your files/folders with MP3s as "data DVD"). Such disc won't be playable on any typical CD player because most of them can not read DVD discs, but you won't have any problem playing your files on any standalone dvd players of computers. If you want to have your MP3 files to be playable on CD players (the ones that are capable of MP3 playback - which again almost all modern standalone CD players do) you should just choose CD-R discs instead of DVD-Rs, because as I said - even if they read MP3s, most of them can't read DVD discs. Creating "Data CD" full of MP3 files will be your choice.
Ripping your Audio CDs to MP3 files at maximum range of 32-320kbps variable bitrate is usually more than acceptable sound quality to most of people (only very few ones - like me - are not happy with anything less than uncompressed PCM at 1410kbps  ) No matter what you'll choose, CD-Rs or DVD-Rs, make your MP3 files as variable bitrate (aka VBR) because you gain quality and in the same time possibly fit more files on the same disc than what would you have with constant bitrate (aka CBR). And don't listen to people using dumb or limited players (such as iPODs) trying to tell you CBR is better NO, the quality of VBR files (if made correctly) is always better than any of the CBR 128/160/196/224/256kbps files, and is the same as those of 320kbps CBR - but at sometimes greatly reduced file size! (thus you can fit more VBR files on the same disc than you would have fit same quality CBRs).
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(of course go with CBR if you own iPOD or such other dumb player not able to play VBR files; also some older standalone CD players may have problems with VBR or MP3s at all - and as previous poster said, there may be other limitations like limited number of files that can be read from the disc)
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