how to burn avchd on dvd-r in high definition for BR set top playback?

masterpug · Member Joined: 25 Oct 2002 Location: United States

i know would only store about 15min high definition on dvd-r, but interested in doing this..is it possible?

Baldrick · Administrator Joined: 09 Aug 2000 Location: Sweden

You "just" author a blu-ray(see our tools list) and then burn the folder on a dvdr media. But I don't think the current blu-ray players will support it.

masterpug · Member Joined: 25 Oct 2002 Location: United States

Thanks, but any idea where I might research which, if any, BR players support
BR content on dvd-r?

racer-x · Posted: May 05, 2008 21:04

Might want to read this. It's right up your alley:
http://www.elurauser.com/articles/avchd_to_bluray.jsp
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ticos2000 · Posted: May 08, 2008 06:50

Yes indeed you can do that straight forward just burn the MTS files (be sure you change the extension file as MPEG) using nero or whatever burner software you have (just change to UDF 2.5) and youll be able to play DVD disc with HD content on a bluray player. I have sony bdp-s1 and the files play flawlessly. If you need menus and authoring you will need DVDit pro.

The mts files are the ones cameras as sony HD produce. I have tried that several times and it works perfect

best regards

RickA · Member Joined: 22 Nov 2007 Location: United States

Greets,

You sure can. Some guys on another forum and jdobbs author of the great program DVD-RB are discussing that here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=135335 . It starts out as wanting to put several SD DVD's onto a blu-ray disc. Then morphs into putting blu-ray HD content onto a SD DVD in blu-ray format to play back on a blu-ray player. A very interesting idea.

Cheers,
Rick
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jman98 · Member Joined: 08 Oct 2004 Location: Freedonia

jehill · Member Joined: 07 May 2008 Location: United States

The Picture Motion Browser (PMB) software that comes with the Sony HDR-SR12 includes a "AVCHD Creation" featue that does exactly what you want. See the thread http://forum.videohelp.com/topic350515.html for more information.

pentode · Member Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Location: United Kingdom

Have been playing with this myself, problem 1 is that you cant have sustained high data rates from dvd-r discs ( not on my samsung 1400).
I created a blu-ray file set from an mkv 720p file which was just over 4gig. the ts plays flawless on a pc but the disc stutters on the 1400.
Other mkv files with lower data rates, 1gig for 40 mins tv episode play fine.
Problem 2 was that the audio track from uk based tv rips would not show up in tsmuxer, i had to demux with mkvextract and re-encode with ffmpeg to ac3 before tsmuxer would see it.
problem 3 no menus (yet) thats my next task. theres plenty of guides on vcdhelp have fun..

kinglerch · Member Joined: 25 Mar 2004

Is there any easier way to do this (BR material on a DVDR) since this thread was started? I have some BR-compatible MPEGs I made using TMPGEnc, but I need a way to author them to a DVDR. No fancy menu or anything, just the 3 short MPEGs.

I tried using Ulead Videostudio, and it created BR folders with the three MPEGs, chapters, etc...but it won't burn it to my DVDR. Can I just follow the instructions above and burn the folders as data to a DVDR? There's no Nero template for BR, or another more foolproof method?

jman98 · Member Joined: 08 Oct 2004 Location: Freedonia

tsmuxer can create BluRay output and it's free. No menus, but it can do what you ask. There are no 100% guarantees that this will work with whatever your player is, but it has a good chance. Note that media quality may also play a role and if you use cheap, crap discs that you might have playback problems. I'd strongly advise using Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim for the best chance of success.

kinglerch · Member Joined: 25 Mar 2004

Ok, now I have the BD folder structure. I just burn this as a data DVD, or is there some Nero template to use? Also, which programs will recognize this disc? WinDVD?

jman98 · Member Joined: 08 Oct 2004 Location: Freedonia

You HAVE to burn as a data disc with UDF 2.50 format. Nothing else will work for you to be able to play the disc.

I strongly discourage you from using Nero and recommend that you use the free ImgBurn to burn the disc. You can set UDF 2.50 easily in ImgBurn.

Software BluRay players may or may not recognize discs that you burn. Recent version of WinDVD or PowerDVD should theoretically recognize them, but I have no way of testing this as I only have old versions of those programs that don't support BluRay playback.

jehill · Member Joined: 07 May 2008 Location: United States

I routinely copy AVCHD files directly from my HDR-SR12 HandyCam to a BD-RE disc for backup. I can then view the files using CyberLink PowerDVD 8 Ultra without a hitch!

kinglerch · Member Joined: 25 Mar 2004

I used ImgBurn to 'build' the DVD-R with the BDMV and Certificate folders in UDF 2.50 (not 2.60, which is also available) format. But I can't tell if it worked because when I put the DVD-R in either of the drives, the computer doesn't recognize it. The DVD-R appears blank or something.

Is this normal, or is there something else I must configure to allow the computer to recognize this DVD-R?

t0nee1 · Posted: Aug 29, 2008 09:12

As jman98 stated,
"Software BluRay players may or may not recognize discs that you burn."

Stick that sucker in a set top BR player,which is your goal right?, and BTW, the title of this thread...?
I use a PS3 and most of the time, it works great for me.....

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kinglerch · Member Joined: 25 Mar 2004

Yes, the goal is to use it in a BR player. But it would be unfortunate if no computers could view or copy the DVD-Rs...or maybe there is a way.

t0nee1 · Posted: Aug 29, 2008 10:36

Well since jehill says he "can then view the files using CyberLink PowerDVD 8 Ultra without a hitch! try it...
Also if you have the BDMV and Certificate folders on your HDD,then you'll have access to the stream>.m2ts file, which you can use for playing or converting to other formats if you wish...
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kinglerch · Member Joined: 25 Mar 2004

But he is saving AVCHD files to a BD-RE disc. The topic is saving BD files to a DVD-R. I get the feeling the BD files on the DVD-R is for BD players only, and that the source files would be needed for the computer.

t0nee1 · Posted: Aug 29, 2008 13:26

Yes you're right, my bad!.......And yes the BD files on DVD-R will/should play with a Bluray player...As mentioned above, I play them with my PS3......

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jehill · Member Joined: 07 May 2008 Location: United States

I'd like to clarify the following:

1) The "AVCHD Creation" feature that I mentioned creates the BDMV file structure on a blank DVD-RW or DVD-R disc (that's all that I can write with my BR drive) that may be read on any Sony BR player. The disk is UDF 2.01 formated (not UDF 2.50).

2) The BDMV file structure consists of a BDMV folder containing BACKUP, CLIPINF, PLAYLIST and STREAM folders. The BACKUP folder isn't required for playback.

3) When I say that I am copying AVCHD files from my camera to a BD-RE disc, I mean that I am copying any new or updated files in the CLIPINF, PLAYLIST and STREAM folders to the disc. I used Windows Vista Ultimate to UDF 2.50 format (the only format available) my BD-RE discs before use. The BDMV folder on my BD-RE discs is contained in an AVCHD folder only because this is the way it is on the camera. I am pretty sure that it was unnecessary to include the AVCHD folder when I initially copied files, but its there.

4) CyberLink Power DVD 8 Ultimate reads either type disc. A special AVCHD film screen containing "Play" and "Resume" buttons appears to let you know that you are viewing AVCHD film clips.