YouTube offering higher quality video / Stage6 ends services!

Denizzje · Member Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Location: Netherlands

Indeed, very good that they use real stereo now too

! They should create 16:9 support though.
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bayme · hero Joined: 10 Nov 2007 Location: EU

Denizzje · Member Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Location: Netherlands

-Sandro- · Member Joined: 29 Feb 2008 Location: Italy

I noticed both lower bitrate (

) and different servers, in fact mp4 files are really slow to download. Sometimes dont even start to

-Sandro- · Member Joined: 29 Feb 2008 Location: Italy

dissociative · Member Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: Colombia

-Sandro- · Member Joined: 29 Feb 2008 Location: Italy

ricardouk · Member Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Location: PORTUGAL

reez · Member Joined: 01 Dec 2007 Location: United States

hey check it out
http://image.bayimg.com/pajjbaabc.jpg
here's the vid(btw when you click it the url stays the same)
wish i could spare your ears of another complaining vlogger but
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWO686ROPnE
NOTE: for some reason it doesn't ALways appear

i definitely don't think stage6 shut down for the reasons they say, i also think they will be back. stage6 was AWESOME! ANY video uploader or a original content maker would feel that a S6 account was MANDATORY. I mean ANYone(everyone) can(is) host(ing) shitty quality vids..but here's one service that brings you TV quality to the crappy amateur internet...you can't tell me that there aren't people willing to invest into that. CONCLUSION: Google should have bought STAGE6(and their dogs) instead of the internet's beloved whore Youtube. I'm sure we would have had some awesome legit Movie service by now(like what itunes had planned).

anyonecancopy · Member Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Location: United States

What do you mean "it does Not work" , Its working for me and I opened the script and look .........&fmt=18 NOT &fmt=6
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15. if(!dUrl.match('&fmt=18')){
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17. (dUrl.match('&'))? newurl = dUrl.replace(/&/, '&fmt=18&'): newurl = dUrl+'&fmt=18';
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19. window.location.replace(newurl);

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Denizzje ,I don't know why it didn't work for you..did you upgrade to the new flash player?

I noticed that old obsolete Goyomora method videos now plays without any pauses.
for my area, Northeastern U.S.A it seems that YT has raised the streaming output. at the same token with &fmt=18, the Tripp45 method plays non-stereo and blurry , but if i press the original button on the player it plays correctly , now if i play a frifox method video , it plays perfectly in stereo and not blurry. but the video padding is a killer.. i don't know if this has something to do with the fact that i updated to the new flash player..

Every video uploaded with flash or mp4 or wmv uploaded after mar 7th 11pm E.S.T that was in stereo, has been playing on my updated player in full stereo that is if it was in stereo to begin with..

But I urge you to give the player upgrade a try... it really works - I love it. I posted a MP4 musicvideo , and it took about 1 hour for YT to convert it to HQ , and its in stereo, but you must &fmt=18 or get the upgrade for the player like I described to do it for you.

Look at the MP4 video I uploaded...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SI_z5wAP5U&fmt=18

Alexa

reez · Member Joined: 01 Dec 2007 Location: United States

did you not see my post guys
http://image.bayimg.com/pajjbaabc.jpg
YOUTUBE is trying out an HQ button of their own

dissociative · Member Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: Colombia

also anyone has an idea of why when youtube encodes content such as anime to &fmt=18, it does look considerably washed in comparation with fmt=6? the edges of the objects look weird like some kind of spatial processing filter was or is being used or its just my machine? I think that it looks similar to what the avisynth filter SpatialSoften() does

reez · Member Joined: 01 Dec 2007 Location: United States

i've seen it again. i remind you i don't have greasemonkey scripts or anything
http://image.bayimg.com/cajkmaabc.jpg
youtube obviously wants to put a button

dtfinch · Member Joined: 07 Feb 2008 Location: United States

I don't see it yet, but I believe you.

Edit:
If I view source on a video page, I see "var availableVideoFormats = null;"
That probably has a list on yours.

Then in http://s.ytimg.com/yt/js/base_all_with_bidi-vfl34789.js , there's a recently added changeVideoQuality() function and such.

anyonecancopy · Member Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Location: United States

reez · Member Joined: 01 Dec 2007 Location: United States

anyonecancopy · Member Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Location: United States

k. · Member Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Location: SA

anthony111 · Member Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Location: United States

does any one notice that youtube is offering some videos to play in high quality, check this out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urwejpUG7nQ

if you look towards the left side of the video, it says Watch this video in higher quality.

tulio · Member Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: Brazil

bitrate changes from video to video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dh63XiHV3Ug&fmt=18

anyonecancopy · Member Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Location: United States

reez · Member Joined: 01 Dec 2007 Location: United States

here's another way to tell how much they're "deploying" the button
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Awww.youtube.com+% ... quality%22

dissociative · Member Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: Colombia

alberto666 · Member Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Location: Spain

What about google Video? I tried, but doesn't work in the same way.

Any similar option?

Denizzje · Member Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Location: Netherlands

Now this is strange, my latest video, an 104 minute 1935 German propaganda movie, doesn't go to HQ anymore if you put &fmt=18 behind its link, but &fmt=6 again. I don't know what codec it is in now. But I see quite some compression artifacts, while the source is very good (DVD -> 640x480 Xvid with around 1000-1200kb/s video bitrate).

Note: I uploaded it only 2 days ago, and probably because of the large size of the movie it showed up atleast 18 to 24 hours later in my videolist. Maybe &fmt=18 will work in a day or 1-3 too but it just takes a while because of the very large size of the movie.

Note 2: If go to the &fmt=6 version of the movie, I see a link where you can go to the low quality version of the movie, while there isn't one to the HQ.

wonderpierrot · Member Joined: 12 Feb 2008 Location: United States

&fmt=18 is no longer working for any videos, regardless if is mine or someone's elses, even all of the videos people posted here in 18 format. It will simply just play the original low quality 320 x 240 flash format.

&fmt=6 works fine on the other hand, and I also noticed a "Watch this video in lower quality/watch this video in higher quality" link beneath the video player when using this format.

So I'm guessing YouTube is making 6 (480 x 360 FLV) the official HQ format for HQ videos?

stsin · Member Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Location: United States

Noticed more changes with YT:

Now when viewing a HQ stream, a link shows up underneath the video window:
"Watch this video in lower quality for faster playback."

After clicking that to view the LQ version, there's another link underneath:
"Watch this video in higher quality."

Which both work.

Also, now when using &fmt=6, if there's no conversion for that, it will view the LQ version. Instead of the continual black loading screen.

While all my uploads have been converted to H264 (viewable with &fmt=18 ), Only thing YT was converting to the high bitrate H263 Sorenson (&fmt=6) were WMVs. But after tonight, it converted all my MP4 uploads too.

wonderpierrot · Member Joined: 12 Feb 2008 Location: United States

Nvm my previous post, I had forgotten I had downgraded to a previous version of flash, hence the inability to play the mp4 files.

All of my WMVs both works at 6 and 18. Interesting to see which format they decide to use and how.

reez · Member Joined: 01 Dec 2007 Location: United States

hey "OH SO NICE PEOPLE!" go to this link
http://www.youtube.com/video_quality_settings
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anyonecancopy · Member Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Location: United States

Dearest Denizzje, I am surprised at your Language, But iI take it that You Must have been Joking around.. & I do thank you for the great info you provided.

though agree with rees , For some reason, I chose the correct settings also... and it just plays in low Quality

I refreshed the videos but even after a few times and it was useless useless, same Low-Q

That HQ option settings choice was not there until just today ,that I have noticed ..But it must be That we are one step closer in winning this HQ Youtube struggle we been fighting for so long.

Has anyone noticed that .wmv uploaded videos posted after Mar.7, 2008 plays in a faster speed with the lipsynch off and the videos end half way before the reported time that it finished , I tried a new upload size of 496x368 and it virtually removed that terrible interlaced look of the HQ videos posted.. so for Hq videos my experiments on video size its no longer 480x360 but more like 496X368 ...Try It and see for yourself

I Appreciate all your input, remember we are in the same team , this Is a team effort ..I love you all...

Alexa Anderson