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Aspire Digital AD-8091 DVD Recorder "skips" when records programs

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ray2000
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Post Posted: Feb 02, 2008 01:04 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

After reading these posts, I wish I bought a major brand (e.g. Sony, RCA, JVC, etc). It seemed good at the time. I bought this DVD recorder 3 years ago for my dad as a Christmas gift. First of all, I already installed the firmware update. I'm amazed that there is no bleedy support for this machine. Also why time on the time on the display is off after a couple of days. But thats not the issue, I'm worried about. Last week, I recorded a program. It recorded perfectly - or so I thought. It seems that when the video play, it freezes in certain spots and continues on as normal. I find this really annoying. Has anyone so has the Aspire AD-8091 encountered this problem? If you have, is there a patch for it? If the company has really gone under, you Software Developers should put your minds together to solve a lot of the bugs this device has been coming out with.

driguy
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Post Posted: Feb 02, 2008 01:47 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Yeah, mine had the same problem.

The solution? Buy something else unless you feel like opening it and replacing the drive with a standard DVD recorder drive. I replaced mine with a Plextor PX-708A I had no other use for. I had to remove the front bezels from the drive and the recorder then tweak on it until I got the clearance just right. Since then I haven't had a skipping problem while recording. Hope this helps.


ray2000
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Post Posted: Feb 04, 2008 00:53 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Wow. Yeah. Its always something simple. The logical course of action would be to buy another recorder, but since I have it I might as well just replace the part. I was on Plextor.com tonight, and I can't seem to find the PX-708A. Is it possible to replace the DVD-R/RW Drive with a different Plextor drive model (e.g. PX-800)? I'm just thinking of options thats all.

Krispy Kritter
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Post Posted: Feb 04, 2008 11:17 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Many recorders just use standard IDE drives. You can verify by opening yours. In which case, any IDE drive should work. To avoid any possible issues, you may want to find the same model currently in the unit if possible.
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driguy
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Post Posted: Feb 04, 2008 11:26 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

That drive is no longer being manufactured... I'm sure that another manufacturer besides Plextor would work but I can't confirm that. Try buying a lite-on or an NEC, or if you have a drive laying around, use that. The only reason I used the Plextor is because that was what I had as a spare at the time...

The drive inside the recorder has a standard IDE connector and 4-pin molex so I would venture to guess that pretty much ANY drive would work in it.

EDIT: Krispy, the drive inside the recorder is more like a loader. I don't remember the brand name off hand but it was something that probably stands for "Poorly Made" in Chinese.


Grain
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Post Posted: Feb 04, 2008 12:38 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

So can you use -R discs in it now driguy?
I don't have skipping problems with mine, but I always re-burn them on my computer, and never use the recorder itself for playback.


ray2000
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Post Posted: Feb 04, 2008 18:59 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Thanks for your help. Just to add one this issue, I haven't recorded anything on this machine since.....hmmmm.......August 2007.

driguy
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Post Posted: Feb 05, 2008 11:30 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

@Grain -

No, It won't let me use -R discs on it. I just tried it. I can put pretty much any kind of +R/+RW media in it though and it works great.


ray2000
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Post Posted: Feb 05, 2008 12:54 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

My bad. I apologize. I meant to say DVD+R and DVD+RW discs in my preivous posts. I talked about the "skip" issue with my Dad, and we agreed just to go with a new recorder. Its not worth replacing the drive. Oh, my AD-8091 plays pre-recorded discs perfectly! No skipping what so ever. Since that my next course of action is purchasing a new player does anyone have any suggestions on good DVD recorders. I don't want to buy a recorder and find out 1 or 2 years down the road that I wasted my money. Nothing crazy (i.e. $600-800).



wabjxo
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Post Posted: Feb 05, 2008 13:38 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Grain
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Post Posted: Feb 05, 2008 14:23 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

driguy wrote:
@Grain -

No, It won't let me use -R discs on it. I just tried it. I can put pretty much any kind of +R/+RW media in it though and it works great.


Thanks for going to the bother to get the info driguy! Too bad that changing the drive didn't give you that option, I'd have changed mine if it would. Must be a limitation of the recorder's other hardware/software, not the drive/burner. Mine won't burn +RW's correctly at all, but I don't have a lot of those to test with either. With the price of write once media, I can't be bothered to buy anymore +RW's. Had good luck with cheapo generic +R's though.


ray2000
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Post Posted: Feb 07, 2008 17:28 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I haven't had time to read all the information on the Philips DVD Recorder. Its on sale at Best Buy for $349.99 CAD. That's a decent price. Not dirt cheap (hardware will fall apart) and not super expensive.



oldandinthe way
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Post Posted: Feb 07, 2008 18:44 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Whatever you buy - you will regret it 1-2 years down the road unless you buy a real cheapie.


Your aspire has had a good life - 3 years. I don;t know what you paid for it but it shouldn't have cost any more than my Lite-On recorder - about $180US. And my LiteOn is close to needing its drive replaced. The fact that you question the value is enough reason to take the low cost road.

We are still seeing first generation recorders with Digital Tuners. You are bound to feel buyers remorse in a year if you spend $349 Canadian on this unit. Cost will decrease. Tuner capability will be refined and enhanced. Hard disk capacity will increase. Buy an under $100 DVDRecorder and throw it away in two years, you'll still come out ahead.


ray2000
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Post Posted: Feb 09, 2008 22:59 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Hmmm... I never thought about that. Thanks. I'll consider that. I'm learning more and more. I have a question that has been bugging me. I was at Wal-Mart this evening broswing in the Electronics section. Can someone tell me what is the difference between DVD+RW and DVD-RW discs? I know that RW is ReWriteable and R is Writeable Once forever. What does the "+" and "-" represent?

wabjxo
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Post Posted: Feb 10, 2008 11:12 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

The - and + are two different standards for DVD disc, and different designs for tracking, error correction, etc. Today's DVDRs usually read and write to both.

DVD+R/RW may produce better burns due to the plus-format's inherently better design for tracking, speed control and addressing (location on the disc), esp. at higher burn speeds.

Here's an older ref. article for more info. See esp. "Pre-pits versus ADIP" discussion, but ignore the following section on "Defect Management" and DVD+MRW Mount Rainier... it's a hardware implementation and not used in consumer recorders. The section on "Multiple recording sessions and compatibility" farther down is also interesting.

DVD+R/RW discs will FF/REW normally in Philips, Magnavox, and other Funai/Philips DVDRs (~50% of DVDRs in NA) but not all speeds in Pios and Pannys. As far as universal compatibility, in 2006, a German magazine did multiple-unit tests and found -R was 95% compatible and +R was 93% compatible (but 95% if it was bit-set to ROM).


ray2000
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Post Posted: Feb 10, 2008 16:14 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Thank you Wabjxo for the compatibility lesson.[/b]

oldfart13
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Post Posted: Feb 14, 2008 08:57 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I don't know about the tuner issue though as Canada didn't go along with the States in throwing out the analog spectrum just yet. Implementation could be years away. With an election call coming up, maybe even longer. Futureshop has some good deals on the Pioneer 550 and 650 HDD models. I'd check them out. Very nice hardware. A lot of people on this site living in the US would love to get their mitts on something that is as easy as driving over to FS and picking one up....

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